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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Hey KMac and Jack!

    If the Grand Jury issues a subpoena to Donald J. Trump to appear as a witness and give testimony under oath... do you suppose he will invoke his Fifth Amendment privilege?
    I know you didn't ask me, but any half competent lawyer could get that guy talking no problem. A few flattering remarks, easy questions to get him talking, some questions getting him to talk himself up, and the guy will forget all about the fifth.

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    "Even the President of the United States sometimes must have to stand naked." -- Bob Dylan, It's Allright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding
    " Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy. You in America will see that some day."

    " The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

    -- Benito Mussolini



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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    No , he resigned in protest of the witch hunts that were happening. The pardon just

    slammed the door in the face of a system gone rogue....

    You really need to progress beyond the Hitler channel Tom.
    Nixon resigned after Goldwater told him he'd be impeached and convicted if he didn't resign.

    https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...oment-of-truth

    It was Wednesday, Aug. 7, 1974. President Nixon had not yet resigned. By most accounts he had not yet decided on a final course of action. But staff and associates believed he was on the verge of resignation. It was a subject on which Nixon had been mulling obliquely, in his characteristic manner, for days.

    The problem was the “smoking gun” White House tape of June 23, 1972. Nixon had struggled to maintain legal control of the tapes of his presidential conversations as the tide of the Watergate scandal rose, but lost.

    So on Aug. 5, 1974, the White House released this previously unknown bit of evidence. Recorded only a few days after the Watergate break-in, it proved that Nixon and then-Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman had tried to get the CIA to falsely claim national security was involved in the Watergate manner, in an effort to get the FBI to end its nascent investigation.

    Nixon had steadfastly insisted he had nothing to do with any cover-up. The new tape showed this to be a lie, jolting even the most committed loyalists on his staff. Chief of Staff Al Haig and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, among others, said later that they knew Nixon now had to go. The problem was the manner of his going.


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    Goldwater, along with House Republican Leader John Jacob Rhodes and Senate Republican Leader Hugh Scott, entered the Oval Office around 5 p.m. The Arizona senator sat directly in front of Nixon’s desk, the others to the side. Goldwater told Nixon he had perhaps 16 to 18 Senate supporters left – too few to avoid ouster. Congressman Rhodes said House support was just as soft.


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    Nixon later held that at this point he recognized the inevitability of resignation but was determined to not appear to have been pushed out by anyone – staff, lawmakers, or the media.
    “This was almost true. The decision was Nixon’s,” wrote journalist Fred Emery in his book “Watergate,” a full history of the scandal. “What clinched it, though, was the certainty that not only had he ‘lost’ the congressional support of his own party and his natural allies among conservative Democrats, also that they would actually convict him at trial and remove him from office.”
    You can try to rewrite history, but there are people who know what really happened. Nixon obstructed justice. He knew it, congress knew it, and apparently, you'd rather not know it.

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    #180.
    Bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw
    ...and apparently, you'd rather not know it.
    There is a lot of that going around.
    " Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy. You in America will see that some day."

    " The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

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    Fake news....... Way back then.....

    And the Democrats still haven't learned.......
    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    Don't under-estimate Jack. He's purty damned talented

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    What nonsense.
    " Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy. You in America will see that some day."

    " The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

    -- Benito Mussolini



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    What nonsense.
    Of course it was, but we still saw the countries greatest President resign because of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    Don't under-estimate Jack. He's purty damned talented

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    Jack seems to be angling to join KMac on the short bu-- er, list. Pity, that, but his signal to noise ratio has inverted of late.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Teddy Roosevelt resigned? Lincoln?

    Wow, who knew.
    If I use the word "God," I sure don't mean an old man in the sky who just loves the occasional goat sacrifice. - Anne Lamott

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Fake news....... Way back then.....

    And the Democrats still haven't learned.......
    You ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know, Jack. Nixon broke the law and paid a price. Instead of making stuff up, why don't you do some research? History is pretty interesting, if you're willing to learn.

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    Mueller now wants to interview top White House officials --

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-pr...040110033.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    Our legal system was never designed to try complex cases with complex laws. Ordinary citizens don't have the where with all to understand them. That's why white collar crime pays.
    I think you misunderstand KMac, it was designed to be precisely that way. It's the white collar criminals that wrote the laws.

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