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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    I really wish that they would have kept going with the Fiero. The GT was a good looking car.

    The Pontiac Solstice had potential too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    Its not too late to relive your youth.



    But add 700 horsepower....

    Oh, that Fiero. She's a Maneater.

    Really were handsome cars, though, eh?

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    How about the MR2? Just add some BRG and you're good to go!

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    My stepfather Harry had one of these fine exercises in 1970's design:

    Fiat X1/9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    !'ve been Lew on a budget and it was less fun.

    Sounds like a mighty fine 'by-line'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post
    My stepfather Harry had one of these fine exercises in 1970's design:

    Fiat X1/9

    My brother had one.... sorta. His was 'past it's 'good until' date'. Most miserable ride I've ever had (no air, calm, 110 degrees and high humidity. Oh... did I add... it was black/black?)
    There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....

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    Harry's was brown, one could say beige in fact. Rocket scientist with a pretty good eye for art, how he ended up with a beige sports car I just don't know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Lotus Esprit V8 SE
    67,000 miles - $22,000
    0-60 4 seconds/ 175 mph top speed
    2,866 pounds



    Does Kat know you are searching for cars like that?

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    #13: I like that a LOT.

    Details, please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Meachen View Post
    Does Kat know you are searching for cars like that?
    you mean right hand drive ones?
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    The last year Fiero ('88), and only the last year, had a greatly improved rear suspension that was not an X-car (Citation, et al) front suspension at the wrong end and with the wrong lateral force compliances. Translation: Pre-'88s spun easy. Take an '88 and drop in a Buick 3800 or even a small block Chevy, and you have a hot car, though still squirrely, the wheelbase is a little short for that track width. The racing version Fieros with tube space frames and full race suspension from Huffaker Engineering, if you can find one, can be fun even with the Super Duty Pontiac 4, about 200 hp at that time in race trim.

    I pined for an X1/9 in my teens, bought a used Fiero in late college dirt cheap, fun, but quality issues.

    Second gen Mister Twos are beautiful in my opinion, I saw one in Japan that was a bit lowered and with racing seats and harnesses, it looked badass.

    Miatas are fun and cheap. Fun base, funner with a turbo/supercharger kit, funner still with a small-block V8 under the hood, a place offers them turn-key, usually a small-block Ford (pushrods, I don't think the big cammer heads will fit).

    That version of the Lotus Esprit, the V8, was my favorite in terms of styling, it has aged well. I would guess the V8 is a lot more durable than the turbocharged-within-an-inch-of-its-life turbo 4, I would see a lot of ads for the latter, 20k-some-miles, "New engine!". Some interior trim and switchgear may be standard GM fare like the airbagged steering wheel, but that also makes parts easier to find.

    Corvette C4s are fast and DIRT cheap, but plasticky '80s aesthetics. Most quality problems in terms of mechanicals have probably been corrected by now, if maintained. Let's see... what else....

    Normal cars are out of fashion right now, sport utes and hybrids are selling. You can probably get a great deal on a current gen 6 Camaro with the base V8, or on a budget, the 350 hp V6 with the 1LE package that has the handling goodies. If not, look at the previous gen 5 Camaro with the V8.

    If it doesn't rain where you're at (or when you un-garage the car), a used Ariel Atom is supposed to be a ridiculously fun car, fast with even the smallest engines, and race-car handling. Reliable powertrains, relatively low cost parts.

    Personally, I have always thought that an old Plymouth Prowler with a new Chrysler hemi would be a bomb. The came with only an anemic V6. The trans is in back so no coupling issues at the bell housing, just driveshaft. However I don't know if that trans would take the torque from a hemi, you might need to upgrade parts if you could or swap in a 928 transaxle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post


    Or you could go "Italia"

    I had not realized how many body kits there are for the Miata though I do believe I'll leave my '92 alone
    If they made that with a fastback body, I might be in. I think Mazda missed the boat with the new RF, it's clever, but totally misses the extra luggage space that a fastback would have offered over the roadster, turning it into a GT on a budget. However the Toyota 86 twins are close and have good reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post


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    YES! I've driven several of those, the oldest being an early 50s Coventry Climax engined one, the latest being the V8 version. The best had a Triumph TR4 motor, it was the best balance of power and handling.
    But I'd have to say that I'd hate to have to drive any of them, other than perhaps the +8 for more than a few hours at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Also a part of the go-fast-by-being-lighter faction, but a 7 is really, REALLY light, as low as 1100 lbs on early models. A fun track day car, but I would be very concerned about it as a road car due to lack of crashworthiness, especially in a side collision, there is no side crush space at all. I love sporty, but do value my safety. This is frequently a problem when car shopping as many sports cars have not been tested by the Insurance Institute as they prioritize the higher volume models.
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    The only sports car I've owned was an MG TD and I ride a BMW, neither are or were very good at side protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    !'ve been Lew on a budget and it was less fun.


    I totally relate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob (oh, THAT Bob) View Post
    Also a part of the go-fast-by-being-lighter faction, but a 7 is really, REALLY light, as low as 1100 lbs on early models. A fun track day car, but I would be very concerned about it as a road car due to lack of crashworthiness, especially in a side collision, there is no side crush space at all. I love sporty, but do value my safety. This is frequently a problem when car shopping as many sports cars have not been tested by the Insurance Institute as they prioritize the higher volume models.
    If anyone hits me from the side, I have failed too, irrespective of fault. Drive defensively
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    Fast by being light....
    The mutts nutz


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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    YES! I've driven several of those, the oldest being an early 50s Coventry Climax engined one, the latest being the V8 version. The best had a Triumph TR4 motor, it was the best balance of power and handling.
    But I'd have to say that I'd hate to have to drive any of them, other than perhaps the +8 for more than a few hours at a time.

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    A nice 2180cc motor and this old girl will provide hours of fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post


    A nice 2180cc motor and this old girl will provide hours of fun...

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    Oh, this is what you want. Fuel injection is available, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post


    A nice 2180cc motor and this old girl will provide hours of fun...

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    One of a number of perfectly legit options (see my #14).
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    My first generation Miata allegedly has 116hp. Plenty to get me into trouble on my little island with but one road posted above 35mph, plenty for fun on the curvy little two-lane roads I like to drive on and enough to scoot down the odd interstate with most of the rest of traffic. Not the first car I would choose for a short time frame trans-continental journey, but I really don't care to travel like that any more than I must. That said a peppy built up motor in a VW Ghia or Sedan would be a hoot as long as the end result isn't too far outside the rest of the vehicular comfort zone. Drum brakes only work so well....Says the guy with a 130hp 2.2l Subaru motor in the back of his Vanagon
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    I have NO affiliation with these guys, but they do EFI turbo motors that are wild.

    http://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7075.htm
    The video is kind of cool. They get way nerdy about VW motors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I have NO affiliation with these guys, but they do EFI turbo motors that are wild.

    http://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7075.htm
    The video is kind of cool. They get way nerdy about VW motors.

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    Seriously cool stuff!

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    Where's JohnB with an update on the anti-Lambo?

    I'm beginning to wonder what I can buy for very cheap that has character once my son has his Mini running and no longer needs to borrow my sensible Japanese hatchback, bought with the sole purpose of teaching him to drive.

    For the money involved, another Mini could well be the only option, but not a Cooper S. MGB GT or Midget with a hardtop would need some cash adding to the pot, as would a Fiat X1/9 (cheapest way to get a Bertone-designed sports car?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    My brother had one.... sorta. His was 'past it's 'good until' date'. Most miserable ride I've ever had (no air, calm, 110 degrees and high humidity. Oh... did I add... it was black/black?)
    Mine was Black, drove like it was an AFX car on a center track, until the mid engine gave up the ghost on The Garden State Parkway.
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    Lost my license for a little while maxing this little Lancia

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    There's an X1/9 for sale now:

    That's gold BTW, not beige.

    This is for sale too, at least $1000 cheaper and would be cheap to sort out with my son's Saturday job in the bodyshop.

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    You want fun get an Atom

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    Or how about this. The title of the auction listing is:

    Other DUTTON PHAETON 1985, Bit like a Lotus 1977

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    You have to pedal, but it's great for Shark Week.


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    Oh. Pedal cars count? Yee-haw!

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    The X1/9 was one of the cars that sunk Fiat in the U.S.
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