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    Default Why is there no Grand Jury investigating collusion and conflict of interest?

    Took these so-called Congressional Committees a month to figure out Trump was lying about the Comey tapes. That's because the Committee members are partisan politicians.

    A Grand Jury asks a judge for subpenas. If the judge issues them, and you want to get cute, you can tell it to the judge.

    The grand jury's theoretical function against abuse of executive power was seen during the Watergate crisis in America, in United States v. Nixon, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 8 to 0 on 23 July 1974 (Justice William Rehnquist who had been appointed by Nixon recused himself from the case) that executive privilege applied only to the co-equal branches, the legislative and judicial, not to grand jury subpoenas, thus implying a grand jury constituted protections equaled to a "fourth branch of government". The second Watergate grand jury indicted seven lawyers in the White House, including former Attorney General John Mitchell and named President Nixon as a "secret, un-indicted, co-conspirator." Despite evading impeachment, Nixon was still required to testify before a grand jury.

    Similarly, in 1998, President Clinton became the first sitting president required to testify before a grand jury as subject of an investigation by the Office of Independent Counsel. The testimony came after a four-year investigation into Clinton and his wife Hillary's alleged involvement in several scandals including Whitewater and the Rose Law Firm. Revelations from the investigation sparked a battle in Congress over whether or not to impeach Clinton.

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    "Took these so-called Congressional Committees a month to figure out Trump was lying about the Comey tapes. That's because the Committee members are partisan politicians."

    are YOU partisan?
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    No, Phillip - he's patriotic, and believes in the rule of law.

    You know that - but you're partisan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    are YOU partisan?
    We are ALL partisan... including you.

    However, violating the law isn't a partisan issue.
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    not a good defense guys... I'm not partisan... which of course makes me partisan from your point of view
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    "Took these so-called Congressional Committees a month to figure out Trump was lying about the Comey tapes. That's because the Committee members are partisan politicians."

    are YOU partisan?
    Depends on the context. Were you ever on jury duty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen
    not a good defense guys... I'm not partisan...
    HAAAhaahaahaahaahaahaaHAAAhaahaahaahaahaa!!!

    Good one! Thnx for the laff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    No, Phillip - he's patriotic, and believes in the rule of law.

    You know that - but you're partisan.
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    not a good defense guys... I'm not partisan... which of course makes me partisan from your point of view
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    HAAAhaahaahaahaahaahaaHAAAhaahaahaahaahaa!!!

    Good one! Thnx for the laff!

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    Why??????? cause there is nothing there....... It only exists in the minds of the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    His humor is subtle.... so much so, even he doesn't catch it, sometimes!
    It's the Dunning-Kruger kicking up again.

    LMAO
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    Jack Grebe: Your attempt to outdo PA at absurdist humor is doomed to failure. You are attempting to outdo a master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Why??????? cause there is nothing there....... It only exists in the minds of the left.
    My mind couldn't create names like Veselnikskya or Goldstone. So I'm glad that Donald Jr. invented those for us, and whatever Russian help they travelled to Trump Tower to peddle to Jr, Manafort and Kushner.

    Now you're not trying to get me to believe that Trump Jr. is a lefty, eh?
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    I suspect the outcome coming as a result of Robert Mueller's investigation is going to blow Jack Grebe's mind... as well as the other Bilge Trump apologists and 21st century Republicans. I suspect a grand jury will be eventually be established with indictments to follow.

    Have some patience people! We are only 6 months into this criminal presidential administration. I know that it seems like 6 years....
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    He's already being groomed to distrust Mueller as a Dem hack. Alternative facts are just as good as the real thing, if what you really want is to believe what you want to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Jack Grebe: Your attempt to outdo PA at absurdist humor is doomed to failure. You are attempting to outdo a master.
    Having them both on ignore is so much better.
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    Who cares what Trump is groomed to believe? I suspect REALITY is going to eventually smack Trump in the mouth.
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    Oh, I meant that Jack's being groomed to believe garbage about Mueller. By the time the charges are laid, the Grebe-friendly media will have him believing that Mueller roasted his own grandmother over a bed of coals, and served a good sized portion to Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot
    Having them both on ignore is so much better.
    They are. But I peek unapologetically. You are depriving yourself of much amusement!
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    It's not trump who's being groomed. He believes whatever crosses his mind at any particular moment. It's The Base, his al Qaeda that's lapping up the alt-facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF
    Oh, I meant that Jack's being groomed to believe garbage about Mueller. By the time the charges are laid, the Grebe-friendly media will have him believing that Mueller roasted his own grandmother over a bed of coals, and served a good sized portion to Hillary.
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    It's not trump who's being groomed. He believes whatever crosses his mind at any particular moment. It's The Base, his al Qaeda that's lapping up the alt-facts.
    LOL!

    Works either way. I have no doubt the Bannonites and Kushnerites in the White House are constantly involved in grooming Trump. Of course, that simply involves indulging his deviant instincts.
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    Who tp put in jail? Every GDS Repug the police can lay their hands on, that's who. Ain't one of them who'll vote against their repugnant POTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    They are. But I peek unapologetically. You are depriving yourself of much amusement!
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    Ignore is for the weak........
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Ignore is for the weak........
    What silliness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    having them both on ignore is so much better.
    lmao.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Why??????? cause there is nothing there....... It only exists in the minds of the left.
    I hope you are sitting down when the big hammer drops on your hero, Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    ... I'm not partisan...
    Ba-dum-tish
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    Who™?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post

    are YOU partisan?
    Not a hint of partisanship in my corner.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Ignore is for the weak........
    Yes it is and weaker still are those that claim to use it but really don't.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Depends on the context. Were you ever on jury duty?
    Can you bring yourself to say?
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    I am on the Scaffolding Committee. Looking forward to the show. Cheers/ JC

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    Pretty... slick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    Who™?
    Speaking of weak.........
    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
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    Who?
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