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    I would have defended the guys right to play it, but those speakers?…………………..

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    I bet there is more going on between this jagoff and his neighbors than just his loudspeaker boorishness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I would have defended the guys right to play it, but those speakers?…………………..
    how high were they turned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen
    how high were they turned?
    Well... the ACLU claims, "the recording neither exceeds any established noise levels nor is it as loud as many other sounds the borough tolerates — including many sounds that do not communicate a message, like lawnmowers, leaf blowers, chainsaws, and vehicles."

    Evidently the complainant disagrees.

    So do you believe the American Civil Liberties Union? Or the neighbor who complained about the level of noise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Well... the ACLU claims, "the recording neither exceeds any established noise levels nor is it as loud as many other sounds the borough tolerates — including many sounds that do not communicate a message, like lawnmowers, leaf blowers, chainsaws, and vehicles."

    Evidently the complainant disagrees.

    So do you believe the American Civil Liberties Union? Or the neighbor who complained about the level of noise?
    it's a loaded question for me... I don't want to type it all out but my job was shut down once because someone with very loud shop air conditioners didn't want us to start equipment before 0800 in the morning... we were trying to avoid as much heat as possible and the sob put four guys in the hospital with heat stroke... I still don't forgive the jerk

    as it stands, I agree with the ACLU
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    It would be an interesting juxtaposition if a Muslim family moved across the street from him, erected loudspeakers and played their call to prayer at the same volume that he plays taps.

    The guy has a right to his freedom of speech, so does everyone else. That is a double-edged sword.
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    War Pigs would fix this problem....
    We don't know how lucky we are....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    how high were they turned?
    You don't go to that trouble and spend that amount of money to play them softly. They are racetrack type OB speakers and may very well be directional as well.
    There's a bit more to this I expect.

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    War Pigs could fix it
    I think I would go with this...


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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    You don't go to that trouble and spend that amount of money to play them softly. They are racetrack type OB speakers and may very well be directional as well.
    There's a bit more to this I expect.
    what if they just happened to be a good deal somewhere... there are more possibilities
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    I wonder who owns the pole that they are mounted on.
    Our utility companies get bitchy when people infringe.

    Just because he can doesn't mean that he should.
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    The OP is an argument, not an even handed report. Brian Palmer's picture (#21) sheds more light, at least on the size of the speakers. We don't know if the ACLU claim that the actual noise level is lower than town limits and/or lower than other regular sounds in the neighborhood. If the noise is audible but within limits, then it's hard to escape the conclusion that the town action is in actuality content targeted.

    That does look like a utility pole. Given how it's on his property, it may well be a "private pole", installed and maintained by the utility at the property owner's expense and legally owned by the property owner. I am well away from my time regulating utilities in this state and I don't know if the utility can bar non-utility uses such as this. I think they could but I don't think they have a compelling reason to wade into this mess.

    I remain of the opinion that if the guy's not violating a decibel regulation, he's a bit tasteless but within his rights. Add to that, he seems to be a jerk pushing his rights. Well, they're his rights. We're a nation where everyone has the freedom to be a jerk.

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    Sounds like a great place NOT TO practice my pipes!
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    The compromise suggestion of moving the tribute to a park seems like an honorable solution for everyone involved.

    I hope all parties can agree and return the town to a more peaceful state.
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