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    The circle jerk in the Trump administration is almost funny, at times....

    ....but at other times, it's downright scary. Are we vulnerable?

    Edward Luce: “While Mr Trump is president, Washington is Bourbon city. For Mr Trump, no less than Louis XIV, it is ‘L’Etat, c’est moi’. The deeper the probes, the more the Trump family interests will infect every decision. The biggest distortion is in US-Russia relations.”

    “No other western democracy operates like this. Until recently, the US did not either. It will only become more pronounced as the Russia investigations gather pace. As the crisis deepens, the family will circle the wagons. Those who are not inside the circle are doing what it takes to protect themselves.”

    “If your goal is to disable the US government, now is the time to strike. Whether you are president of Russia, emir of some oil-rich kingdom or a nihilist working from the inside, Mr Trump offers an unparalleled opportunity. Trump is America and America is Trump. While he is president, the US republic is highly vulnerable.”
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    The Romanovs.
    " Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy. You in America will see that some day."

    " The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

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    Our vulnerability depends entirely on how much Resistance there is, inside and outside of government.
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    Power vacuums provide opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Power vacuums provide opportunities.
    Precisely, and so does political chaos.

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    Piffle.
    Well, Mr. Botard, do you still deny all rhinocerotic evidence?

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    Trump's reliance on absolute loyalty and the judgement of his children is smoking gun evidence of a very weak and insecure individual who is incapable of functioning in elected office.

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    Well the Australian dollar has surged against the Greenback in the last few days against a background of a weakening US economy and the likelihood that US rates will be on hold for some time. So, yes, set against the vacuum of leadership form the Whitehouse, you are vulnerable. Remember what Bill said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaseLockedLoop View Post
    Piffle.
    Poppycock!

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    We're already being governed by hysteria. Another 9/11 would just be frosting on the cake.
    A society predicated on the assumption that everyone in it should want to get rich is not well situated to become either ethical or imaginative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elf View Post
    We're already being governed by hysteria. Another 9/11 would just be frosting on the cake.
    whew, we'd have to regime change Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    whew, we'd have to regime change Mexico.
    What I'm sayin'.
    Rattling the teacups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    What I'm sayin'.
    I figure if the US flails about seeking a scapegoat it'll be closer than the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    I figure if the US flails about seeking a scapegoat it'll be closer than the Middle East.
    Yup.

    Pretty easy at this point to regard Mexico as a 'failed state', in need of 'regime change'.
    Rattling the teacups.

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    Plus, no-one expects the Spanish Acquisition.
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    So will it be the marines or will they call Ollie North back into service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    The circle jerk in the Trump administration is almost funny, at times....

    ....but at other times, it's downright scary. Are we vulnerable?

    Real class act Norm, NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Yup.

    Pretty easy at this point to regard Mexico as a 'failed state', in need of 'regime change'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Yup.

    Pretty easy at this point to regard Mexico as a 'failed state', in need of 'regime change'.
    But, but... Canada gets off Scot free?

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    I don't know about vulnerable - I think you have already lost.

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    I can see the time when the Mexicans will want the wall, and not a transparent one either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Are we vulnerable?
    I don't think so - Trump is ineffective, he's lost the confidence of the people and the systems are robust enough to catch the country when he falls.

    Unless there is another sept 11 or he otherwise decides to start a war.
    In my lifetime its been a republican president thing - get elected, start a war. Regan - Lybia, central america, grenada. Bush - Iraq/Kuwait. Dubya - Iraq and Afganistan. Trump - ??? NK/Iran/Mexico

    There was of course Clinton and the Balkans - but as it turns out, history sees that as a good move.
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    Another distraction war eh?
    Mexico's a big place, could be expensive and it's next door which can be a disadvantage. Collateral damage and all that and you've already had your fingers burned in central America.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_G..._coup_d%27état
    And you've invaded Nicaragua once already, over bananas! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...n_of_Nicaragua
    I see Smedley Butler was in the thick of that little exercise

    How about another go at Cuba? All those carrier groups and nothing to do……..
    You could land at Gitmo, the detainees could become more collateral damage and solve that problem. then roll on in……...
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