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    The auctioneers' website has been updated (it seems to change almost hourly!) and the viewing times and dates have changed.

    https://www.sweeney-kincaid.com/Sale...px?SaleId=3112

    At the moment, with nine days to go, no bids have met the reserve prices.


    I have a funny feeling that something may be going on "behind the scenes". At the moment, I doubt if this auction will run its course. I don't know anything; this is just a "hunch" - I fancy that there might be en bloc bids for "chunks" of the collection.

    An anthropological museum, for instance, may like the "ethnic" items, but would not be interested in Uffa Fox International Fourteens, whereas a museum of yachting could trace the entire development of the modern racing dinghy with the Fourteens in the collection, which start with a heavy boat steered with a rudder yoke and with rowlocks and bamboo spars for her lug rig,, and finish with trapezing boats with the mast on a "bicycle frame", able to plane to windward.

    I emphasise that I don't know anything. But I think the purpose of the "reserves" - which would seem unusual in an insolvency sale - may be to permit the auctioneers to conclude such agreements.
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    This is Lot 446, and she interests me, if nobody else. I'd really like some thoughts on this one...

    This is the only picture, and one can't really judge if she is "dead" or just "very tired". How bad are those hood ends?

    She looks to me like a Victorian or Edwardian yacht's gig.


    The National Small Boat Register says:

    Rowing/sailing dinghy. Carvel built. 14'6" x 4'1"Name, "WAG", and owner (?), "A. Lee" carved inside transom. Original build quality very good, but fairly light. Teak thwarts and trim, bronze fittings. Fitted for 6 oars. Wedge shape centreplate case, but plate missing. No builder?s plate or marks. Present condition poor, weak and dried out. Difficult to place ? rig remains suggest a dipping or balance lug, and construction would suggest a leisure (possibly racing) type. The rowing fittings, however, are unusual for such craft. Potato shed K1.





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    Feast your eyes... this is CORONA, Fox Fourteen K374, from 1937

    ... one of many... I think we can assume that these will be assured of good homes..



    The alert will have spotted her somewhat "V" shape sections which are unlike those of Fox's planing Fourteens. That's because she is a "river type" intended to be competitive on inland waterways..
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    These two, on the other hand, are not even in the catalogue.





    Both pre-planing Fourteens, and I am not even sure if they are Internationals; they may be Nationals or even earlier, Single skin carvel, with rowlocks fitted and with bamboo spars for a lug rig...
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    446 looks a proper boat to me. The hood ends might make it yours if they don't put you off as well as others.

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    I'm not going to be able to get up there for a look. Hence my interest in what others make of the photo.

    Dried out English oak stem, fasteners failed, or - something worse?

    I'm sure the Fourteens will all go to good homes, but 446 might slip between the cracks. She appeals to me very strongly as a practical size project.
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    Well the deadline for bids for the whole collection passed at noon BST today.
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    I wonder if they will find homes at all? Bunch of old wood boats, poorly marketed. Bit of a tragedy in the making I tend to think. Hope I'm wrong. It's happened before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    I wonder if they will find homes at all? Bunch of old wood boats, poorly marketed. Bit of a tragedy in the making I tend to think. Hope I'm wrong. It's happened before.
    there are a few boating organisations alerting their members to this auction.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    There has been a change - some bids are now shown as having met their reserves.

    https://www.sweeney-kincaid.com/Sale...px?SaleId=3112

    I heard from a correspondent who went to the Eyemouth viewing on Friday that around forty people turned up, including one chap from Southampton University who was measuring the "ethnic" exhibits.

    I wouldn't describe that as a high level of interest.
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    I like 320, Fairey dinghy K6848




    No bids so far. Nice Firefly there too.

    And this Thames skiff, 50 pound reserve unmet.



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    ……and from 552 onwards there's more………………..

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    I am rather puzzled.

    I visited Lowestoft and found these two Fourteens which do no appear in the catalogue:





    the second boat has been identified as IMP, a very famous Morgan Giles West Country Dinghy Conference 14 which rated as a National and then International 14 and was competitive into the 1920's. She is apparently on loan from Beaulieu and I hope they retrieve her. The other one is a mystery.
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    More unconsidered trifles:

    Lot 394 - no bid yet... bids in increments of £5... perfectly nice clinker dinghy...



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    And another Jollyboat (these are rather hairy beasts - bit like Thistles - and were a favourite of the young Duke of Edinburgh) ...

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    And apparently a perfectly good clinker coxed four... missing the canvas decks but with oars and outriggers - should be a rudder somewhere...

    (I spent a fair part of my youth in clinker fours and eights...)

    The object to the left of her is a Thames racing punt...

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