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    It collapsed due to an underground parking garage being built very close to one side of the building. To add to the fact that the foundation was being undermined, the material removed from the excavation was temporarily piled on the opposite side of the building awaiting its being hauled off; on top of that the river adjacent to this complex flooded its banks at the same time, filling the underground garage with water and eroding the pilings foundations on that side of the building.

    That said, those snapped off pilings do look very small to this untrained eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by robm View Post
    Fire (flog?) the foundation contractor, but keep the guys on who built the rest of that building. The fact that it fell over and hardly broke at all is amazing.
    No worries there. Justice for this kind of **** in China is swift. And probably involved executions.
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    Built about as well as the sh!t they ship to us.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    Built about as well as the sh!t they ship to us.
    Who built your rudder?

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    ouch
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    I find the rice terraces on the left bank more impressive.
    My first thought although kind of doubt its rice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    Who built your rudder?
    Spew paper towels required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    Who built your rudder?
    Sorry Baxter, the rudder didn't break, the pintle did and I bought it. Pintle made in China.
    Fair and Balanced

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    You bought a Chinese made Pintle? Why do you hate America?

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    We still do this kind of stuff but vanity collides with reality and that makes it seem to slow down. It's a race to the end between greed and physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    You bought a Chinese made Pintle? Why do you hate America?
    That was about all that was available. The UK had some also but............
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    Sorry Baxter, the rudder didn't break, the pintle did and I bought it. Pintle made in China.
    The buck stops here, eh Mac?

    You installed an under-sized pintle on your sailboat, and "in a blow" it broke. Your sailboat. Of and for which nobody else in the world has any responsibility.

    So, it was windy, and you ended up awash and helpless. No lifevest on, no radio at hand.

    You complain bitterly that the CG wouldn't help you. In your little sailboat. Capsized in 3 feet of water. The boat that you are planning to sail offshore.

    And the whole scenario further convinces you that "with the boats excellent manners when swamped the trip (to Bahamas) looks much safer than I previously thought."

    You're killin' me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    There's a crisis every minute. Now we don't build enough pretty bridges.
    For the record, It's not Trumps fault that mega projects don't get built anymore . . . yet. Yes, the EPA "gets in the way", and for a good reason. But, that's not what's been holding us back. Obama failed on the infrastructure effort too. That's not to say that some fairly large projects in my state haven't been built lately, my point is, we need projects like the Hover Dam or the inter-state highway system.

    I have a proposal; solar on every house with whole house batteries like the one Tesla has proposed. It would terrorist proof our energy generation and it would be a cost reduction to the tax payers in the long run.
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    Most manufacturing takes place overseas and there is little use for the unskilled worker anymore. No wonder a lot of people feel disenfranchised.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    The buck stops here, eh Mac?

    You installed an under-sized pintle on your sailboat, and "in a blow" it broke. Your sailboat. Of and for which nobody else in the world has any responsibility.

    So, it was windy, and you ended up awash and helpless. No lifevest on, no radio at hand.

    You complain bitterly that the CG wouldn't help you. In your little sailboat. Capsized in 3 feet of water. The boat that you are planning to sail offshore.

    And the whole scenario further convinces you that "with the boats excellent manners when swamped the trip (to Bahamas) looks much safer than I previously thought."

    You're killin' me.
    Sorry Baxter, wrong again. I clearly said the pintles had been damaged in transport. I also said I replaced them with larger ones but thought the original size was fine.

    Awash but not helpless. Was in a position to self rescue by the time help arrived. Capsized in 20 ft of water, drifted in to 3 feet of water.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    Sorry Baxter, wrong again. I clearly said the pintles had been damaged in transport. I also said I replaced them with larger ones but thought the original size was fine.

    Awash but not helpless. Was in a position to self rescue by the time help arrived. Capsized in 20 ft of water, drifted in to 3 feet of water.
    "The Spin Stops Here".

    You're killin' me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    "The Spin Stops Here".

    You're killin' me.
    You spun it and I corrected your misunderstanding, or worse, of the facts.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Pintles only available from China or the UK? Surely you jest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Pintles only available from China or the UK? Surely you jest...
    They are not an item you pick up at your local Wal-Mart.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Cheaper from China, American made was too expensive. http://www.porttownsendfoundry.com/marine-hardware
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    Sorry Baxter, wrong again. I clearly said the pintles had been damaged in transport. I also said I replaced them with larger ones but thought the original size was fine.

    Awash but not helpless. Was in a position to self rescue by the time help arrived. Capsized in 20 ft of water, drifted in to 3 feet of water.
    Three feet of water?

    Our puddles are deeper than that
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    Gee. KMac, I figured you for a "buy American" kinda guy, regardless of cost. After all, it keeps your American factories busy, right?
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    Send the helo!

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    Unless you're a sawed off runt, you could stand up in three feet of water.....
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    The Jihadis get their pintles from Port Townsend Foundry.

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    Yes, I suppose the Shasta dam could be raised. It's a beautiful lake, and made larger would make it even more alluring from a sailing aspect. However we can't overlook the Oroville dam affair either.

    On the subject of the high speed transport: f=ma, and time is required here to go from dead stopped to 200 mph. But every small town along the route: Bakersfield, Delano, Fresno, Mariposa, Merced, etc. will want to be a stop along the way. So in the end, it will not be a bullet train. It will just be a very expensive milk run. The biggest problem I see with a bullet train is presented by the Tehachape Mountains. In France, the TGV works because it's all level ground. If we really want high-speed transportation between SF and LA, we need to be talking to Elon Musk.
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    The Chinese version, Making China Great Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    The Chinese version, Making China Great Again.

    We started with trains also, then graduated to planes.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    The Jihadis get their pintles from Port Townsend Foundry.
    I thought you might be kin.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Gee. KMac, I figured you for a "buy American" kinda guy, regardless of cost. After all, it keeps your American factories busy, right?
    What American factories?
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    What American factories?
    http://www.porttownsendfoundry.com/marine-hardware Some of the best marine hardware I've ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    What American factories?
    I work in one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McMike View Post
    I work in one.
    Keep your options open.
    Fair and Balanced

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    The Ohio River Lincoln bridge:



    The Ohio River Lewis and Clark bridge:



    The tunnels on the southern approach to the Ohio River Lewis and Clark bridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    http://www.porttownsendfoundry.com/marine-hardware Some of the best marine hardware I've ever seen.
    I know, but a huge price to go along with it.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDonald View Post
    I know, but a huge price to go along with it.
    If you can't buy American, then don't buy at all... Trump is weeping.
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