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    China's impossible bridge

    Video here on BBC http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/2017...gineering-feat

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    Default Re: Why don't we do this kind of stuff anymore

    Because the republicans have cut taxes so much we can't afford big infrastructure projects anymore. Let's go back to Reagan era tax rates so our country can be great again.

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    Wealthy people don't need bridges, they just fly from place to place.
    Bridges are for the masses, why on earth wouod the moneyed elite be interested in that?

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    Yup , Those commies buildin some real socialist crap right there !

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    I find the rice terraces on the left bank more impressive.

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    They're gonna be so jealous of our wall tho.

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    That's what I was thinking too. The mental attitude that lead to the terraces are also the attitudes that lead to the reinvigoration of China in little over 100 years. From the Boxers and the end of an absolute monarchy to a world power and trading nation. The communists are just a blip in the course of Chinese history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    They're gonna be so jealous of our wall tho.
    You could always contract it out to the Chinese, let them bring in their own labour…………… Worked for building your railways………...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    The communists are just a blip in the course of Chinese history.
    Yup. Functionally it lasted less than the lifetime of a generation - from the late 40s (or the 60s with the extreme cultural revolution) to the reforms of the 80s/90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    You could always contract it out to the Chinese, let them bring in their own labour…………… Worked for building your railways………...
    Shirley you didn't think we were going to build it?

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    Well the Mexicans' won't…………………… or maybe they will, it may eventuate that it's to their advantage……….

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    The environmental impact study said it'd bother the lizards, frogs, n bugs. And it's on sacred fishing grounds of the Fakawi indian tribe.
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    There's a crisis every minute. Now we don't build enough pretty bridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdh View Post
    The environmental impact study said it'd bother the lizards, frogs, n bugs. And it's on sacred fishing grounds of the Fakawi indian tribe.
    God forbid.
    Fair and Balanced

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    You should have been here to see the construction of our elevated light rail from SeaTac and alongside northbound I-5. Huge machines were used to erect prefab concrete pillars, and then another machine crept from pillar to pillar leaving pre stressed concrete Bridges between the pillars. We can still do stuff.
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    And lest we forget. A brand new apartment building in China fell over last year.
    We don't do that kind of stuff, I hope.
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    7th street bridge in Fort Worth short video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E809DulALt4

    There is a longer video on PBS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    I find the rice terraces on the left bank more impressive.
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    We don't make this ether.

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    We do actually...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    We do actually...

    And Trump wants more of it....

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    Since this became about Trump; I thought he proposed record infrastructure spending? Was the wall it?
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    Carrier vessels and aircraft cost too much. We've got poorer health are than lots of other nations, too.

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    I think one of the most impressive Chinese works is their plan to re-route a river to provide water to their northern inhabitants. I can't remember which river they were re-routing but it was one incredibly "yuge" project. I think it was due to be completed in 2030 or something. LONG term work and absolutely gigantic in scope.
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    There is a new suspension bridge planned to span the Detroit River in a few years. The U.S. customs offices have become so slow it now takes nearly an hour to get through after traffic moves over the existing bridge. The solution is to build a second bridge.

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    Well, there is that one hotly debated thing out here...

    Something about a high speed something. It is a MASSIVE project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Well, there is that one hotly debated thing out here...

    Something about a high speed something. It is a MASSIVE project.

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    But slow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Well, there is that one hotly debated thing out here...

    Something about a high speed something. It is a MASSIVE project.

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    You mean the one where the farmers wanted to spend the money on water? By the way, i see your drought has much subsided:

    http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Home/S...onitor.aspx?CA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I think one of the most impressive Chinese works is their plan to re-route a river to provide water to their northern inhabitants. I can't remember which river they were re-routing but it was one incredibly "yuge" project. I think it was due to be completed in 2030 or something. LONG term work and absolutely gigantic in scope.
    didn't we already re route the Colorado river?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdh View Post
    You mean the one where the farmers wanted to spend the money on water? By the way, i see your drought has much subsided:

    http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Home/S...onitor.aspx?CA
    What the real problem here is, is water rights. The San Joaquin river, for example, was dammed to make Lake Millerton. A large portion of that water heads down to Kern County in the Friant/Kern canal. It would be easier and better, perhaps, to allow that water to flow downriver to the west side of the Valley that is dry, or irrigated with water pumped UP from the Delta, against the flow of the river! What?

    Oh, and the politicians here play the farmer game, but they are bought and paid for by developers and sell out their constituents. Ask my ex-raisin growing buddy what HE thinks of Nunes...

    Maybe if the LA river were converted to a storage system rather than a storm drain, Southern California wouldn't need the aqueduct, either. Then all that farmland that water rolls through, and the mountains it gets pumped over (see a theme here?) to get to LA could use it to grow food.

    The bottom line is, decongesting the roadways and airways of California benefits everyone, and trains are the most efficient way to move people in the smallest corridor footprint.

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    "The bottom line is, decongesting the roadways and airways of California benefits everyone, and trains are the most efficient way to move people in the smallest corridor footprint."

    But definitely not the most profitable. This may change, but there is still too much money being allotted to the few. The consequence will be that the infrastructure will just support more population growth. It always has been thus. This may indeed be an unentended consequence, but I'm not so sure.

    I do think taking a high speed train from SF or SJ to LA would be a good thing for me.

    (In the old days when you could fly to LA in a half hour for $30 it was great, but now having to be at the airport, park your car or secure a ride, and be ready to submit to an anal probe all an hour before flight time is a PITA and I don't do it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    "The bottom line is, decongesting the roadways and airways of California benefits everyone, and trains are the most efficient way to move people in the smallest corridor footprint."

    But definitely not the most profitable. This may change, but there is still too much money being allotted to the few. The consequence will be that the infrastructure will just support more population growth. It always has been thus. This may indeed be an unentended consequence, but I'm not so sure.

    I do think taking a high speed train from SF or SJ to LA would be a good thing for me.

    (In the old days when you could fly to LA in a half hour for $30 it was great, but now having to be at the airport, park your car or secure a ride, and be ready to submit to an anal probe all an hour before flight time is a PITA and I don't do it)
    Agreed. Oldest Son and I often talk about this. He talks about Star Wars, and a planet called coruscant (sp?) that is one, large city. He feels we are inexorably marching toward a mega city planet.
    He feels the March of Technology is simply another form of evolution, and who am I to argue? Silicon based life? Why not?

    Still, I'm just after being able to move around on the train. Being able to get anywhere on a train without having to make a bus connection will be great. Ahem. Our passenger trains suck, you guys, if you didn't know. Terrible, terrible coverage areas and service. I hope that changes.

    I think main rail lines, light rail connectors, and self driving cars (like anonymous, driverless Uber, if you will) are where we are heading.

    Well, and electric assist pedal powered cars, of course. Speaking of which, I'm taking a run to go check something out for the car. Drift, drift...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    And lest we forget. A brand new apartment building in China fell over last year.
    We don't do that kind of stuff, I hope.
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    Fire (flog?) the foundation contractor, but keep the guys on who built the rest of that building. The fact that it fell over and hardly broke at all is amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Well, there is that one hotly debated thing out here...

    Something about a high speed something. It is a MASSIVE project.

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    Rob, do you think the rail plan is worthwhile? I guess I do, but I read a piece yesterday arguing that the money spent on the project thus far (and to be spent in the future) ought to be directed to aging and unmaintained water infrastructure. I have no idea why Shasta Dam cannot be raised 30 or more feet, as DiFi has long lobbied for.

    There would have been enough water to glide through this last drought, or certainly soften its effect. 100 years of water. The Chinese wouldn't have waited around like this. A people accustomed to taking the long view, they probably would have built it as large as feasibly possible right from the get-go.

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