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    Well Ron , our family did get bigger.
    Or more correctly , suddenly we are seeing our children , and grandchildren again.
    We also have a built in BBQ and a built in brick wood fired pizza oven , so we have had the grandkids making their own pizza , for grandpa to cook for them.
    And we are introducing the grandkids to gardening , and grazing the garden and orchard , like their parents did.
    And , we have gone out of our way to welcome neighbours in to our house , to share our garden produce , something the PO didn't do.
    In less than 3 months , we feel pretty settled in , and accepted by the community.
    Later in the week I hope to be getting an OTT STBD , and will use that to go get the mail and paper , and take local people for drives.
    The kids over the back have already booked me to take them to the little local primary school by horse and jinker.
    Their father has a passion for steam , he has a steam powered boat , a steam traction engine , and is building a miniature steam traction engine for the kids.
    All interesting stuff !.
    The garden is very interesting.
    I've gardened for 60 years , but never in a greenhouse.
    And also never with aquaphonics.
    But the greenhouse in particular is booming.
    We are also open for visits , from like minded people.
    Regards Rob J.

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    ready for the zombie-pocalypse
    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    We have moved to a small village close to a rural city.
    When we bought the place , we were given a list of who to buy whatever from , everything fiercely local .
    And we were left with a big greenhouse , a working aquaphonic setup , and a big drying room.
    Plus an orchard and vineyard , and small winery.
    Something like 14 rainwater tanks , storing 115,000 litres of water , plus town water.
    The greenhouse was an instant success , supplying us and our appreciative neighbours with magnificent vegetables.
    And the aquaphonic tank is supplying us with silver perch for the table.
    Tonights dinner was all harvested maybe 30 minutes or less from the tank and garden , to the plate.
    And just magnificent !.
    This morning when I went down to the greenhouse a couple of neighbours were at the greenhouse door.
    They said they were just admiring it , but I'm sure they were on a raid.
    I gave them some stuff that was ready for picking , and really crisp from the clear overnight air , and they just ate it , there and then ! .
    That surprised me.
    And they did compliment me on my garden.
    Rob J.
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    ready for the zombie-pocalypse
    I'm also going to start shooting rabbit again , good open country for that too.
    Rob J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    I'm also going to start shooting rabbit again , good open country for that too.
    Rob J.
    Rabbit is good but insufficient....
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning

    P.S. a good lurcher will get rabbit without the annoying lead pellets....
    Someday, I'm going to settle down and be a grumpy old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    Rabbit is good but insufficient....
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning
    what an awful way to go
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    what is a "rural city"?
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    The city we are near has a population of 110,000 people , and its basic wealth is drawn from surrounding agriculture , although it does have a strong manufacturing base as well.
    Its original wealth was gained from gold mining , which is still happening in the area.
    Our little village has a population of 1400.
    Yes , a good dog is great for rabbiting.
    As a kid in the 50's I caught a lot of rabbits with my ferrets and whippet , and shot some too with the rifle I still have.
    That rifle also fed my fathers family too , in the depression , my father shooting rabbits.
    There is absolutely no chance of me getting protein poisoning , or eating pellets.
    I use a 22 , head shots , and will only go out for the occasional shoot.
    Rob J.

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    Last night I did a bit of research on .22 bullets that will work in my Anschutz magazine , and are good on bunnies.
    One site lead to another , and then I found myself on a big US site , dealing with the effects of different bullets on flesh , entry holes , big exit holes , lots of torn flesh.
    Didn't seem like hunting to me !.
    And then , yes , it was about shooting someone who happens to be on your property.
    The site was about what weapons to use , what ammunition to use in those weapons , to do the most amount of damage to a human !.
    This is about civilians killing civilians , "legally" !.
    WTF !.
    I thought about the people who are coming on to my property now , and those in the past.
    For whatever the inconvenience , is there ever any excuse to kill someone just because they are on your property ?.
    Yes , I have seen what small arms , cannon , shells all do to the human body.
    But that was in a war zone !.
    Why behave like that at home ?.
    Depravity , I call it.
    Rob J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    what is a "rural city"?
    aren't all the cities in oz rural
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    No.
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    Our pest plant.
    Trombone Zucchini .
    I planted a half dozen plants in to the greenhouse , now they are 7 ft tall , and taking over the place !.
    Rob J.

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    http://www.france24.com/en/20180218-...o-mexican-copy .
    Think of this the next time you buy the cheap Manchego.
    Rob J.

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    Got up early , and did a picking of the vegetables , nice and crisp , after a relatively cool night.
    Far too much for us to eat , so we did a tour of the neighbours , and gave most of it away.
    Beans , eggplant , zucchini , Tromboni zucchini , cucumber , tomatoes , lettuce , peppers , beetroot , onions , all very fresh and crisp.
    Some very happy neighbours !.
    We have planted peanuts , I've never grown them before , and they are doing very well.
    Who has experience with them ?.
    Rob J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    Rabbit is good but insufficient....
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning.
    I'd never heard of that before! Bloody astounding, exspecially as me wife is at present on a "ANY fat is bad" kick. Gonna put the brakes on that one tomorrow!

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    Rabbit was often the only meat my father , his mother and younger siblings ate during the depression , shot or trapped or caught in some way by my father.
    But they NEVER ate just straight rabbit , it was always roasted with something , even if just stuffed with onions.
    Or grandma would make a pizza , and use the rabbit meat on it , and the bones and giblets in a soup.
    And as a kid , we ate a lot of rabbit too , mostly caught by me.
    But we always had vegetables with it in our meals , or stews.
    Never any problems for us , or anyone else that I know of either.
    Rob J.

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    My grandpa raised rabbits to sell,but we never ate any.
    It was always "chicken".
    One of my aunts would cry and cry if she thought anyone would be eating rabbit.
    Of course, we were little bastards about the situation.
    "Mom, this doesn't taste like chicken"
    "That sure is a long skinny chicken"
    "Why does the chicken have four legs and no wings?"
    Dirty looks and firm, loud admonitions of "It's CHICKEN!", from all the adults were common.

    I've grown peanuts, as an experiment.
    They did better than expected.
    Harvested by gently loosening soil with a garden fork and let the whole plant dry in the sun for a couple of days.
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    I picked the peanuts off the roots and let them dry some more.
    I think I may have roasted a couple, but the rest were saved to plant the next year.
    Most of them didn't sprout.
    R
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    Since nearly half of what we eat comes from our own effort (garden, greenhouse, foraging, hunting) or from friends (gifts and barter) I guess you could say we pay quite a lot of attention.






    In the freezer now there's a good stock of pronghorn antelope and whitetail deer, from a friend who's mad for hunting. There's also a nice bunch of smoked and cured meat, that I do at home, either wild game or locally-sourced (Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska) meat from an independent butcher with a window into the cutting room, so I can watch them.




    For fish and seafood, obviously not local, we try to buy wild-caught, non-threatened species. I cut, repackage, and vacuum pack Alaska salmon, which I also cold-smoke.

    We do buy fruit and veg from warmer climates (practically anyplace is warmer than here).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Any "rules" for what plants to select ?.
    There's a whole movie on the subject. "Saving Grace"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    It is a learning experience for us , we have never used a greenhouse before.
    Obviously there are plants that are unsuitable for greenhouses , because they grow too tall, or take over the place.
    Any "rules" for what plants to select?
    I built a fairly tall greenhouse, 12' x 12', with a high south wall that admits winter sunlight. Given the small footprint, I've chosen varieties that can be trellised or will climb a piece of twine: pole beans and cucumbers were great crops 'til I got a mosaic virus and had to quit growing them. Tomatoes do really well. I've moved to indeterminate (vine) tomatoes, trellised on twine, and prune them to two main stems. When they get bushy, I cut them way back and can usually get a second growth crop that's better than the first. I've got some plants that are over two years old and have been severely pruned several times, and still bear nicely, which is less trouble than starting new plants.

    For lots of detailed notes, have a look at the thread I've been posting for several years.

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...-Update/page28
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    Looks like I lost some posts from this thread.
    Anyway , we have just restocked the fish tank with another 50 silver perch.
    And picked about 10 eggplant , and 6 peppers from the aquaphonic garden.
    It isn't doing as well as the greenhouse , but maybe the new fish will help a bit.

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    Damn !.
    The bigger fish have already killed half of the silver perch we put in to the tank.
    Bugger !.
    Rob J.

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    I think I'll sell the Hydrophonic setup , and just use the area as a greenhouse.
    Rob J.

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    And we will pull out the vineyard.
    There is no way I'm going to bother making wine , when I rarely drink the stuff.
    Yesterday we went to a local Italian restaurant that has been making its own wine , we were going to offer them our grapes.
    But he isn't picking his grapes this year either !.
    So I guess we just pull them out , and save the water used on them.
    The bees loved them though.
    Rob J.

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    Just took delivery of my own "compost starter" .
    A 2yo OTT STBD , that I'll train for the road , to get my mail , paper and whatever shopping we need , locally.
    Very nice !.
    Regards Rob J.

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