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    Cornish pilot gigs were built like that, skew nailed into a groove in the keel.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    I'm going to try the Spanish windlass type of thing on the ribs. Looks like I got the upper curvature correct! the bottom needs work and it needs a lot more bottom taper. I glued on ash strips to keep from breaking while I fuss with it.


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    The front of your stem looks wonderful Denise!!!
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    Thanks Dody!
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    nice work on the stem. i bet once painted know one will notice the lams.

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    Thank you MADOC!

    So... this is the problem.. if ya'll look close you will see the 2nd starboard rib is up, out and away from the board.

    Had an epiphany last night.. get some perf strap, long bolts, etc.. make a draw band on the outside to pull it down into center. (will report back soon)
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    Yes! Bolt & strap works! It appears when "repairs" were made to a broken rib, they didn't realize the garplanks had pulled out. (assuming this is the stern) The stem slot is almost exactly 3/4" what is should be.. So I may be onto something to pull all the garboads back into the slot! I can see a need for half ribs between the full ribs already.


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    Great idea with the wingnut, bolt and strap Denise, love it!

    May I ask you something? On your last picture I can see a very interesting tool with a blue handle. I've never seen something like it before and it looks a bit too sophisticated than to just pull nails. What is it called and what is it for?

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    Oh thank you! it's actually a more of a tack puller than a nail puller because the claw part is so tiny is it similar a crowbar I have about 3 ft long

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    Interesting ... you've got some great tools available over there, also with this wedge-shaped top ... !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dody View Post
    Interesting ... you've got some great tools available over there, also with this wedge-shaped top ... !!!
    It's actually overwhelming with Contracting tools Automotive tools woodworking tools HVAC specialty tools, power tools and Power Machinery we were all set up. Most of it is just sitting idle in the shed and the basement. My last full-time employee stayed with me part time but even that is over 10 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    It's actually overwhelming with Contracting tools Automotive tools woodworking tools HVAC specialty tools, power tools and Power Machinery we were all set up. Most of it is just sitting idle in the shed and the basement. My last full-time employee stayed with me part time but even that is over 10 years ago

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    Gosh, Denise, this is great! You know, you could do some really inspirational boatstuff with youngsters there, get them off the computer-screen and into boating. Do the real thing like ... yes, I know, we've all got our own lives and this probably doesn't fit in with us. Still, it's awesome what you've got there!

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    Not me I'm done with all that, I did donate a canoe form and boat lumber to Phila Boat Factory that teaches inner city youth.
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    Getting back on topic....

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    Bow stem, just in case anyone asks. The epoxy is not going to be the only joint, it will be splined and possibly more like a dowel drilled through. I need stems in order to align bow and Stern eliminate windage and start laying out spreaders to hold the new rails when we steam bend them in place.

    Yup, in todays bright sunlight it's even more evident that half ribs will be needed to hold this old boat's garboards in the rabbet.

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    Making a very little bit of progress working on restoring replacing rebuilding the sheer plank on port side, rather than fool with a 3.5" plank I'm using an idea that someone posted on another thread; a strip built plank that will be 3 strips about 1- 1/8". This allows me to use a preset taper for the scarf joint on the table saw which lets me make the other scarf on the boat. Note the little depth gauge scratch to reproduce the line in the old plank?

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    Looking good Denise! It's great to see this old boat being brought back to life.
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    Thanks Chris! Going slow but that's pretty much how it has to go and how I work
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    Now that! Is a planner!

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    Whowwwwww!!!

    Looking good Denise with your progress!

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    Working on my "build in place" sheer plank, coming along nicely. Table saw cut 10 to1 scarf joints can be nearly invisible... The epoxy is slowly getting close to the amber color because I used the pump from the oxidized hardener it's a lovely shade of pink at this point.

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    that's nice work. coming along at a good steady rate it looks like . i like your neighboorhood. they look like classic old homes.

    jim

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    Thanks Jim! So glad I kept all those clamps all these years!! I was stingy with the epoxy this time I hope that wasn't a mistake but I have squeeze out

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    This scarf, you leave me awestruck! More like a piece of art. Wonderful job Denise!!! Will you also be bolting the pieces together, or is this how it's gonna meant to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dody View Post
    This scarf, you leave me awestruck! More like a piece of art. Wonderful job Denise!!! Will you also be bolting the pieces together, or is this how it's gonna meant to be?
    Epoxy scarf joints don't need any mechanical fasteners, at least they better not!! These aren't big pieces there 1 inch by 3/8 they look big because I enlarged the photograph the whole plank will be about three and a half inches high, because this is a clinker built lapstrake boat the planks are riveted every three inches on the seams and through riveted at every rib I happened upon a little trick, number 6 screws fit in the old rivet holes!

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    Thankfully the starboard sheer plank is mostly intact except for maybe the top one inch. The port plank I'm building in place needs one more strip to reach the original height or depth depending how you measure it. Real pleased so far.but the worst is yet to come as evidenced by the ends of the ribs that are rotted off. The ribs were not actually fastened to the in rails, they kind of just float inside the notch. Irregardless, the rib ends are rotted off, I don't know of any practical way to fix the ends of white oak ribs like that so I may have to shorten them all about a half an inch.

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    Bench made scarf joints. I don't see a great advantage over doing them on the boat as long as they are kept straight and polyethylene is used to protect the other surfaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    Thankfully the starboard sheer plank is mostly intact except for maybe the top one inch. The port plank I'm building in place needs one more strip to reach the original height or depth depending how you measure it. Real pleased so far.but the worst is yet to come as evidenced by the ends of the ribs that are rotted off. The ribs were not actually fastened to the in rails, they kind of just float inside the notch. Irregardless, the rib ends are rotted off, I don't know of any practical way to fix the ends of white oak ribs like that so I may have to shorten them all about a half an inch.
    It will be tedious repetitive work, but you are well able to glue scarf new tops on.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Nick we have done it on Cedar ribs but I don't know about doing it on White Oak ribs that are only three quarter of an inch wide although, G Flex or resorcinol should be up to the task of gluing little wedges on.

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    ^ Just so. Glue on wider stock and shave back with a rebate or shoulder plane.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Dry fit for the last strip of the "built in place" sheer plank! Nearly all falls into place even with the temporarily spliced in rail!

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    Okay got a question. I've been looking at photos of other duckers and the sheer plank can be 1.75" @ the stems & look same as all the planks or stay 3.75" full height of plank en to end, my best guess is it was spiled down or up but I guess it's up to me.

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    Lucky me! Found one piece of the starboard plank that goes to the stem, looks like it's 2.75" my guess was half-right or wrong LOL original height of the plank was 3.75"

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    Made some rib stock today, .3/4" X 7/16"

    2 of the curve cut braces don't seem to be natural crooks.

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    Oh.... guess she's not quite ready to show at Toms River this weekend https://www.downtowntomsriver.com/fu...il.php?id=1095
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