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    Default Puget Sound sailors:

    Am doing my final fitting out of my 15' sail-n-oar Lincolnville Salmon Wherry prior to launch. Would appreciate any recommendations as to:

    Tidal or current charts
    GPS
    Marine radio
    Compass
    Anything else I am not thinking of?

    ...and best sources for each?

    Thanks-
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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    Am doing my final fitting out of my 15' sail-n-oar Lincolnville Salmon Wherry prior to launch. Would appreciate any recommendations as to:

    Tidal or current charts
    GPS
    Marine radio
    Compass
    Anything else I am not thinking of?

    ...and best sources for each?

    Thanks-
    Contact that weasel yeadon; he'll have some advice.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Captain's Nautical Supply for charts. https://www.captainsnautical.com/, and Fisheries Supply for everything else: https://www.fisheriessupply.com/. Don't pay rack rate at Fisheries, either. If you open an account, you'll get a discount. Deeper if you've got a sales tax license and you can open a commercial account.

    Edited to note: Metsker's Maps is also a NOAA chart dealer. http://www.metskers.com/244469/produ...y-Maptech.html

    Also: I think the Puget Sound Tidelog is the best tide book out there: http://www.tidelog.com/product/puget-sound-2/. And it's classy looking:

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Are you really sure you wanna put it in the sea after all this time safely ashore? That stuff is wet, and corrosive. Those tidebooks are a joke too. More than half the time the tides will not be in your favour. Nor will the wind. Usually both at once. And all a GPS will do is confirm how fast you are drifting backwards against a current. Very discouraging.

    No, sorry, I can't recommend it. You should just download the Sailaway app on Steam and save yourself the misery.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    Am doing my final fitting out of my 15' sail-n-oar Lincolnville Salmon Wherry prior to launch. Would appreciate any recommendations as to:

    Tidal or current charts
    GPS
    Marine radio
    Compass
    Anything else I am not thinking of?

    ...and best sources for each?

    Thanks-
    Read this clear to the end.

    PFD
    Distress signals / flares
    Horn / whistle / bell
    Lights / ability illuminate sail at night
    Throwable flotation or line
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    Read this clear to the end.

    PFD
    Distress signals / flares
    Horn / whistle / bell
    Lights / ability illuminate sail at night
    Throwable flotation or line
    What did I tell you?

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    Since you are soured on the experience James, I will buy Rowan from you so as to ease your troubled mind and save you from backsliding. You can use the funds to buy exotic Singaporean drinks.
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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    That is a lot of gear for a salmon wherry. I'd ditch the gps to start, you won't ever be going fast or far enough to not know pretty much exactly where you are with a glance at the chart.

    I like the spiral bound waterproof chart books for small boat sailing.

    A waterproof handheld VHF with a float is good equipment. The batteries have long life.

    Sail conservatively, unless you put in flotation it will not float high enough to make self rescue possible. I learned this the hard way with my Duck Trap Wherry.

    An inflatable pfd that you'll actually wear is essential.

    If you built the sprit rig start thinking about how to re-cut it into a lug yawl!

    Lash two crab pots to the aft thwart. Have fun, post pics!

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    rubber suit,plastic underpants

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    Multi use bucket.
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Multi use bucket very important.
    Conventional PFD vests offer a bit of cushion for your back which can be a blessing. True you will be tempted to remove the vest rowing on a hot day.
    I think there is a pretty good marine supply joint in the Everett marina - if you don't have an account at Fisheries or West, you may do as well in Everett. Or something like Hamilton Marine mail order (or amazon?).
    Puget Sound Current Guide - for the nooks and crannies. Captain Jacks. Waterproof, kayak size chart of Puget Sound from Maptech.

    Not been greatly concerned with GPS on the sound, but can be fun to look at boat speed, and useful to play currents with that information. Not a lot of current in the larger body of the sound. Avoid fog.

    Actually learn VHF etiquitte, unlike myself. You will feel less like a dope. Ship traffic is a hazard to be taken seriously 'round and about Elliot Bay, points north. Don't get tangled up in yacht races off Shilshole, always keep a sharp eye to leeward.

    And don't EVER say "The Puget Sound".

    Sorry Gerrard, regarding spar work we talked about - I have been tangled up in difficult repairs here in the shop.
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    A wide brimmed hat
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    I've had this for many years, (belay that, decades). I like it a lot for comparing surface currents and back eddies. But it seems to be long out of print. What do you rowers use for this purpose these days?

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    I've had this for many years, (belay that, decades). I like it a lot for comparing surface currents and back eddies. But it seems to be long out of print. What do you rowers use for this purpose these days?

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    You can find it online and print out a copy.

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    Tidal Currents of Puget Sound from Starpath Publications
    includes tide prints and current charts - working off seattle, bush point, tacoma narrows stations.

    Had mind awhile, can't swear still in print. Purchased at Northwest Outdoor Center. Possibly at Fisheries, Seattle Marine Supply.

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    Starpath is right down the street. I wonder if they sell it directly there.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Captains almost for sure

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    Fenders
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Make sure your marine radio is chargeable via USB, especially if you ever decide to take a solar powered charger along on a multi-night trip. It's nice to charge your iPhone, marine radio, GPS, etc, all with the same power supply.
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Compass ... I like the kayak compasses with straps that you can buckle/unbuckle from a thwart.

    Here's one
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    A nice long painter at least the length of the boat. And then an extra line of at least 50' so you can tie your boat off to a log while eating lunch. For years, I used a cheap bright orange Home Depot 100' poly line for shore duty. It was probably $7. The others kids snickered, but they were just jealous. Sometimes for fun I'd coil it neatly on Rowan's foredeck during the busiest part of a boat show.
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    A nice long painter at least the length of the boat. And then an extra line of at least 50' so you can tie your boat off to a log while eating lunch. For years, I used a cheap bright orange Home Depot 100' poly line for shore duty. It was probably $7. The others kids snickered, but they were just jealous. Sometimes for fun I'd coil it neatly on Rowan's foredeck during the busiest part of a boat show.
    He deserved even more.

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    What exactly would you say you do here, Ford?
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    What exactly would you say you do here, Ford?
    Adjudicator, of course.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Also essential: a bailer.

    I use a detergent bottle with the bottom cut off (and a large sponge tucked inside for the last drips), and clip it in short under the gunwales when not in use, but also have it attached to a kayak leash so I can bail from pretty much anywhere in the boat but still have the bailer clipped in.

    You really NEED to have this aboard all the time.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    I knew there was peeing and pooping and washing and mixing large batches of "special punch" in the same bucket , but bailing???

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    I use these for navigation. Tidal Currents came from Amazon, Captn Jacks Fisheries Supply.



    Current pages look like this, only not upside down and backwards (how did I manage that?)

    This is a bit like putting together a bag with the "Ten Essentials" in it before going hiking.
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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    All good suggestions. Many thanks. Now all I have to learn is how to back up and launch, then back up and retrieve. :-)
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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    Have you launched yet?
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Tim, I have recently had her out testing as a rowboat. All OK. Carries nicely, and my oars are a delight. Now to stage her rig, make sure it all is copacetic, and wait for a high tide to launch. Or else I will trailer her to Lake Goodwin for a sailing test.
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    Default Re: Puget Sound sailors:

    I second everything Yeadon said.

    And Eric's idea on a good PFD- one with lots of pockets- for the VHF, the lip balm, the snacks, your wallet and keys in a tiny dry bag.

    I assume you already have good oars. A nice boat with bad oars will soon become an unused boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    Tim, I have recently had her out testing as a rowboat. All OK. Carries nicely, and my oars are a delight. Now to stage her rig, make sure it all is copacetic, and wait for a high tide to launch. Or else I will trailer her to Lake Goodwin for a sailing test.
    Congrats! That must have been very satisfying. Get your crabbing gear ready. You've got just the boat to do the job.

    So, uh, did I miss the launch thread?
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    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Oh, and don't forget the portable defibrillator!

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