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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    ...... but they introduced a track variant called the 430. It's 200 pounds lighter and has another 30 HP, good for 0-60 in 3.6 seconds with a top of 190. .
    "track variant" meaning not street-legal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcford View Post
    And Lew, if you were in our hazy and smokey city, why didn't you call?!
    We both felt we should have spent more time in town but we only felt that way after the opposition cracked. It was an unscheduled trip and not about having fun. We'll be back before the end of the year to help Rachel pack up (she'll be moving) and we'll put something together. This was not a pleasure trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    gee, i wonder how he did that

    i never got a ticket for driving 'fast' in my corvette; but i got a ****load of them while driving in traffic at the same speed of traffic - its demoralizing to get pulled over for speeding while being passed by a grandma in a ford escort wagon. . .
    I got stopped when traveling in the middle of a group. I asked the cop how come he just stopped me. His reply: "Ever go fishing?" I said yes. "Ever catch all the fish?" I had to laugh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    "track variant" meaning not street-legal?

    Street legal, but track focused. Lotus' version of a GT3. No radio, no AC, etc. My car is sweeter to use every day and not really much if any slower over the road. Their dedicated track only car in the line is the 3-Eleven although they actually have a road version of that for sale in Europe as well. That would never pass US regulations. The guys I bought my car from had a 3-11 in their warehouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I got stopped when traveling in the middle of a group. I asked the cop how come he just stopped me. His reply: "Ever go fishing?" I said yes. "Ever catch all the fish?" I had to laugh...

    He was quite pleasant and remarkably I had no jitters when he tagged me. I always get flustered when I get pulled over but I felt no shame or emotion yesterday. He pointed out that as a result of my clean record, traffic school was an option. We both knew it was a hosing but I was over the limit and "they did it" isn't an excuse so what can you do. I took it on the chin without admitting guilt or making excuses.


    They were out in force yesterday handing out citations. I guess my number was up. I drove my VW the rest of the day but I would have anyway as I had a lot of errands to run. The freeways around here go to 70MPH once you're out of the city limits. They stake out right where the limit drops as you hit the city outskirts and that's where I got zapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    Unfortunately, I got a speeding ticket today. First one in 20 years, laser tagged. He picked me out of the herd. I opted for traffic school, so no harm as long as I can avoid another for a few years. I ordered a V1 today as well.
    If your Evora was sentient I'll bet it would be pleased. Glad no harm. But it does help burnish your legend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    If your Evora was sentient I'll bet it would be pleased. Glad no harm. But it does help burnish your legend.
    My native Tennessee neighbor who has lived here all his life warned me about this. He told me they pick out certain cars for special treatmen. He related his youthful experiences with his Hemi 'Cuda to me as well. The Evora stands apart, mostly to the good but as we've learned at some expense of time and money, it's sometimes an issue. I'll be more careful in the future and I'm looking forward to getting my V1.
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    V1, pulse jet German flying bomb?
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    I'm guessing radar detector.
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    Well, Lew, if your dream car was a fairly slow motorbike, one that even looks slow, you might still get pulled over.

    So the CHP officer can look at your MIPS helmet.

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    And that, dear readers, is *why I don't drive a Lotus (or anything else that is 'fun') - who needs the hassle?

    Years back, I bought a Firebird - but although it looked like 'the real thing' - it had a small V6 (also a story in that). Drove it from one small town in SD, to the next - and had 3! Count 'em - 3! HP's following me the entire 70 mile trip. I had a detector, which was virtually smoking before I was done - they'd 'hide' behind semi's, pull out and zap me, pull back in. Cruise was set on 54 (back in the bad ol' days of slower speeds), the entire way - I had lil' ol' ladies passing me, flipping me the bird for holding up traffic! Obviously, these good ol' boys were just itchin' for a reason to stop me - and frankly, I'm surprised they didn't just make one up. What a pain.

    *there may be other 'reasons'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    V1, pulse jet German flying bomb?


    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    I'm guessing radar detector.
    Good guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Well, Lew, if your dream car was a fairly slow motorbike, one that even looks slow, you might still get pulled over.

    So the CHP officer can look at your MIPS helmet.

    Peace,
    Yes. He Just Wanted To Check Out My Helmet (as an opening to checking my papers, please...)
    He pulled you over to check out your lid? So considerate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    And that, dear readers, is *why I don't drive a Lotus (or anything else that is 'fun') - who needs the hassle?

    Years back, I bought a Firebird - but although it looked like 'the real thing' - it had a small V6 (also a story in that). Drove it from one small town in SD, to the next - and had 3! Count 'em - 3! HP's following me the entire 70 mile trip. I had a detector, which was virtually smoking before I was done - they'd 'hide' behind semi's, pull out and zap me, pull back in. Cruise was set on 54 (back in the bad ol' days of slower speeds), the entire way - I had lil' ol' ladies passing me, flipping me the bird for holding up traffic! Obviously, these good ol' boys were just itchin' for a reason to stop me - and frankly, I'm surprised they didn't just make one up. What a pain.

    *there may be other 'reasons'...
    I will be attending traffic school online (yes, it's a thing) to erase this blotch from my record. That's $44.00 for the fine which seems reasonable. However, tuition for this class is $85 and that's so I don't get the three points. I guess it's cheap compared to college except you would want the credits in that case.
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    I'm thinking, Lew, that your situation really isn't changing - you're still driving radar bait, and a few more stops - you'll be a repeat offender, moving on to recidivist!

    Read the signs.... time to get that Honda Accord!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    I will be attending traffic school online (yes, it's a thing) to erase this blotch from my record. That's $44.00 for the fine which seems reasonable. However, tuition for this class is $85 and that's so I don't get the three points. I guess it's cheap compared to college except you would want the credits in that case.
    It's cheap compared to anywhere I think. Got a ticket last year for 57 in a 50 & it was about $120 & 3 points + ~200/year in increased insurance premium for 3 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    He pulled you over to check out your lid? So considerate!
    Yeah, courtesy checks rock, eh?

    I saw the same dude today. He honked and waved. Hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    It's cheap compared to anywhere I think. Got a ticket last year for 57 in a 50 & it was about $120 & 3 points + ~200/year in increased insurance premium for 3 years.
    Agreed. Cheap by comparison.
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    Stay out of VA. With the V1....... They scan traffic with radar then stop the ones who hit the
    brakes........ detectors are illegal in VA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    We both felt we should have spent more time in town but we only felt that way after the opposition cracked. It was an unscheduled trip and not about having fun. We'll be back before the end of the year to help Rachel pack up (she'll be moving) and we'll put something together. This was not a pleasure trip.
    Well, ok.
    But to make amends, you will have to host another WBF party at Lew's with Pat Ford organizing. You guys do them so well.
    It's a tradition, Lew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Stay out of VA. With the V1....... They scan traffic with radar then stop the ones who hit the
    brakes........ detectors are illegal in VA.
    Illegal in Quebec as well. A friend forgot to put his away when he crossed the border into Quebec & got stopped about 10 miles in. The cop was very polite, asked for the detector, put it directly in front of his front wheel like a wheel chock & said "OK you can go now".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Stay out of VA. With the V1....... They scan traffic with radar then stop the ones who hit the
    brakes........ detectors are illegal in VA.
    It will work here which is where I need it. By the way, the trick is to brake before they see you
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcford View Post
    Well, ok.
    But to make amends, you will have to host another WBF party at Lew's with Pat Ford organizing. You guys do them so well.
    It's a tradition, Lew.

    Somebody else lives at Lew's now but we can find a place. How's the BC fire thing doing? The city was choking when we were there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    Somebody else lives at Lew's now but we can find a place. How's the BC fire thing doing? The city was choking when we were there.
    Hot and smoky. A taste of what my afterlife will be like. People are getting very cranky. Looking forward to the first blessed cleansing rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    Somebody else lives at Lew's now but we can find a place. How's the BC fire thing doing? The city was choking when we were there.
    Still choking but they say a change is coming in the next day or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    And that, dear readers, is *why I don't drive a Lotus (or anything else that is 'fun') - who needs the hassle?

    Years back, I bought a Firebird - but although it looked like 'the real thing' - it had a small V6 (also a story in that). Drove it from one small town in SD, to the next - and had 3! Count 'em - 3! HP's following me the entire 70 mile trip. I had a detector, which was virtually smoking before I was done - they'd 'hide' behind semi's, pull out and zap me, pull back in. Cruise was set on 54 (back in the bad ol' days of slower speeds), the entire way - I had lil' ol' ladies passing me, flipping me the bird for holding up traffic! Obviously, these good ol' boys were just itchin' for a reason to stop me - and frankly, I'm surprised they didn't just make one up. What a pain.

    *there may be other 'reasons'...
    When it comes to tickets, I figure I can average at least 10 mph faster than a red Ferrari, probably more like 15, in my 20 year old pickup. I go by motorcycle cops with the radar gun in their lap and they don't even bother to aim it at me. (Just sit there with it pointing at their genitals. Apparently it's a form of birth control.)

    Gives you some perspective on what's fast in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    Still choking but they say a change is coming in the next day or so.
    Quote Originally Posted by pcford View Post
    Hot and smoky. A taste of what my afterlife will be like. People are getting very cranky. Looking forward to the first blessed cleansing rain.
    Sympathies. It was unpleasant and that endless stagnant inversion was a real shocker. Seattle's a place where the air always seemed to move. I guess that was then. Disturbing event that's getting no coverage in the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    When it comes to tickets, I figure I can average at least 10 mph faster than a red Ferrari, probably more like 15, in my 20 year old pickup. I go by motorcycle cops with the radar gun in their lap and they don't even bother to aim it at me. (Just sit there with it pointing at their genitals. Apparently it's a form of birth control.)

    Gives you some perspective on what's fast in the real world.
    Yeah. He picked me out. It was an eye opener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    Yeah. He picked me out. It was an eye opener.
    Clearly you need some Radar Absorbent Material (RAM) coating for the painted surfaces, as well as that material coating the canopy on F-22s. And anti-laser coating; I read a few months back about a new material that is so dark black, you can't even see a red laser focused on it, which usually shows up on even flat black paint or black soot. It's BLACK.
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    Mythbusters did a bit about automated radar cameras on one show and they tried all sorts of supposed anti-radar coatings and devices and none of them worked. Finally they got Art Arfon's dragster to run the traps and it turns out you need to be at 300 mph to beat the camera.

    You need a faster car, Lew. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    You need a faster car, Lew. :-)
    Haha! No I most certainly do not! I need a detector and some restraint!
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    Amateurs.

    Lew, you have two choices, as I see it, to avoid being stopped while driving fast:

    1) A collar. I'm pretty sure a man of the cloth would get a pass, even at 65 over in a 65...
    2) Don't stop.
    3) Mount sirens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob (oh, THAT Bob) View Post
    Clearly you need some Radar Absorbent Material (RAM) coating for the painted surfaces, as well as that material coating the canopy on F-22s. And anti-laser coating; I read a few months back about a new material that is so dark black, you can't even see a red laser focused on it, which usually shows up on even flat black paint or black soot. It's BLACK.
    On the other hand, a red laser is incredibly hard to see anywhere, in sunlight.

    That's why construction lasers are green, anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    Haha! No I most certainly do not! I need a detector and some restraint!
    This is why I wouldn't own a Lotus, Ferrari, Maserati, etc.

    It'd be like having a smokin' hot girlfriend, who adores you and wants to please you sooooo bad, but won't let you do more than kiss her.
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    One coulda guessed that a Lotus would be a cop magnet. A corollary: a few years back I drove past the town road crew working on a culvert in my old F250 pickup & waved. All of them waved back. 2 hours later, I drove by in my 220 Diesel Mercedes - waved again & not a single one waved back.

    That's one of the reasons I've driven Peugeots - nobody can figure out what "type" of person the driver is - except maybe a little weird...
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