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    Default Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    Hello all,

    I have acquired a 1900s Delaware Ducker powered by oar. It has been stored in museums for probably the last 50 years. I do not want to restore this to museum quality. Rather, my plan is to repair so that use it regularly in neighborhood lakes during summer months, wheeling it to the beach. I have never repaired a wood boat, but I'm very competent with woodworking and I've sailed large sailboats all my life. My thought is to paint the bottom so that it is better protected from the elements and use. Not sure what to do with the inside. I'd like to varnish the decks and gunwales when I add them.

    I need a place to start. Hull, topside, inside. Pease advise.

    I would also like advice on:

    How to prepare the hull for painting. Should I use cotton caulking or, since I plan to paint, something else? How much should I worry about the small gaps? What type of hardware should I use? Do you see dry rot?

    You may view the pictures at http://people.camden.rutgers.edu/gca...king-projects/

    Thanks! Gail

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    Welcome to the forum.

    First off, clean everything down to bare wood. Then find out why those fastenings have let go.
    The images are tiny, and so it is difficult to see what some of them portray, can you post larger ones? Look at the FAQ page for instructions on posting decent sized pictures.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    This is not intended to be rude, but this boat is a museum piece. If you are looking for a boat to go splashing in "neighborhood lakes", you would be doing yourself and the boat a favor by getting a modern boat and passing the ducker along to someone who can restore it properly.

    Sorry. I do not mean to offend

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    looking like she needs a sheer plank and some rails.
    Welcome aboard Gail! If you need help I'm not far.
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Welcome. You definitely have a cool project.



    From the pictures it looks like a lapstrake boat. If that's the case then there would be no caulking just a good fit where the planks overlap.

    The biggest areas of concern that I see are here.



    The stem and sheer plank here are beyond repair and will need to be replaced in part or in whole.



    This section of the keel/stem is rotten and will need to be replaced.



    This section of the keel will need to be investigated to determine why the fasteners let go and fix whatever the underlying issue is.

    I would address these backbone issues first as they are the foundation of your boat. Step one for me would be to build a cradle/brace the hull so that it doesn't lose shape when the cutting begins.

    Good luck.
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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    PC, the ducker is a very common boat in the museums out this way, given it's nnot been restored kinda tells us it's not worth the trouble even though basic restoration could do it justice.
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    I do understand pcford and agree that this boat could and perhaps, should be restored to museum quality. No offense taken. The boat was heading to the landfill if I didn't pick it up. Whatever I do with it would create more memories. However, I would pass it to someone who can restore. Any interest?

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    Thank you, Nick for that suggestion.

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    Denise, thank you. I'll reach out.

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    I'd much rather restore boats then build new, glad you saved her! Do you have any information, nameplate, or numbers? Yah she's​ clinker lapstrake, that a sneakbox she sitting next to?
    Last edited by DeniseO30; 06-09-2017 at 02:41 PM.
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    PM sent.. guess we lost another new to the forum, sigh,
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    Found my next project!

    Thank you Gail!

    She will be well cared for and restored!

    I swear the boat just jumped by some mysterious force and landed on my truck! As I suspected she came from Philadelphia Seaport Museum.
    It's going to be awhile to get started BUT! She "should" fit into the basement shop. Nylon rope has already brought her back to 3'10" amidships. Looks like white oak rails and ribs. Some of the planks are split, may glue them back together before taking em off to make new. Stems.... TBD, Not sure on the seating yet as she doesn't seem to have been decked in the manor we see in drawings.



    Last edited by DeniseO30; 06-29-2017 at 10:37 PM. Reason: Sutterflyed!
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Denise, your photos aren't showing up. (given the background of the earlier photos I wondered if she was at the Philly Independence Seaport Museum - actually in one of their storage buildings in the old Navy yard.) That will be a fun little restoration project, please keep us posted!

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    Denise, your photos aren't showing up. (given the background of the earlier photos I wondered if she was at the Philly Independence Seaport Museum - actually in one of their storage buildings in the old Navy yard.) That will be a fun little restoration project, please keep us posted!

    I can seem them... what's that about? It's on the facebook group too Ned. Do the urls work Ned? I made the album public. http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...psogeczqij.jpg



    I have some Honduras Mahogany planks I got years ago for leeboards I never made... thinking this old gal would love some new decking she's a tad more heavy than canoe but 2 people can lift her.
    Hard to see, the sheer plank has a sweet little bead on the bottom edge. Like you see in bead and cove boards, but just the bead.
    Last edited by DeniseO30; 06-29-2017 at 02:59 PM.
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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    Denise, congratulations. I can't wait to see what you do with her.

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    Plan on getting dusty n dirty Gail! see you soon!
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    Photobucket wants money for third-party hosting screw that!
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    I have easily 3000-4000 photos on Shutterfly, all free, and from there to here is a simple 'copy-paste'.

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    Yup, same way it was on photo bucket. no warning.. just found out today.

    I'm on shutterfly Ned. thanks for the suggestion! I updated post #12
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    Ahhh,... much better. ..... And very cute!!

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    I was beat last night. my neibor and son helped get her off the truck and onto the PLASTIC saw horses. I was agonizing over getting her into the basement but realized I need to do dirty work (stripping paint and whatever) outside anyway.


    Only question I have so far is about the decking and or splash decks. I've not seen one without.
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Congratulations Denise! It looks like a great project. I can't wait to see how it comes out!
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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    Thank you Chris! I'm just not happy doing other woodworking stuff. Lately I've been turning stuff out from my wood lathe. But it Looks like I'll have my fly fishing boat in the not too distant future!
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    If you need some additional first hand references, there are a couple over at Tuckerton Seaport in S. Jersey











    Though I don't know if they are techically "Delaware Duckers" or a different gunning skiff.

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    Thanks Ned! Seems to me they are far from being rare in this area. I saw a Greenbrier "type"from Maine on Craigslist today, he wants 8k. Guess it doesn't hurt to try!
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Maybe someday I'll get my hands on one. They are pretty little boats.

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    Decks seem to what ever the builder or user wanted. all the hulls look very similar otherwise. Mine will become a flyfishing boat
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Oh boy... old is an understatement. Square cut nails and roves!



    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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    Default Re: Repairing a 1900s Delaware Ducker for use in the lakes

    I started a restoration thread here. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...60#post5275860
    Denise, Bristol PA, Oday30, Anchor Yacht Club, On tidal Delaware River. my current project; http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...0-Ducker-Resto

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