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    before the introduction of the potato?
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    Default Re: what did peasants in europe eat

    Turnips.
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    Cake?

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    Looks like I'll get to be the first to say it...Cake! Holy Cats Paul, I thought you were something of a historian!

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    You "Robbed" me of my first responder status!

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    You "Robbed" me of my first responder status!
    And for that, I am sorry.

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    Seriously Paul?

    They ate stews of oats and/or barley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib Etheridge View Post
    Holy Cats Paul, I thought you were something of a historian!
    i try to be, its a strong area of interest, and my minor from my bachelor's degree is history
    i thought it ight make a more interesting topic than anything atoll to do with american politics. . .
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    Gruel man, gruel... when they were done with the filth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Seriously Paul?
    damn, twice in one week i have shown myself a philistine
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    Well, pretty soon when referring to immigrants Trump will say "Let them eat cake!"

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    flame on
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    Turnips really were displaced by spuds. Though the barley gruel was a big hit too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    damn, twice in one week i have shown myself a philistine
    Getting better with age.

    In answer to your question - rye, oats, barley, rarely wheat. many had little gardens with lettuce, radishes, carrots, tomatoes, beets, turnips. Protein came from beans and peas. Wealthier peasants might own a pig, goat, or cow or two in which case they'd have cheese, butter, lard.
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    Tom Montgomery was a close to correct as you can get because different grain are associated with different geography.
    The Slovaks are pretty much a Pure peasant nation. The war and 40 years of communism helped keep knowledge of the old ways current.
    the traditional dish before the potato was boiled buckwheat. It was called "pohanka". I don't know if anyone consumes it today but they sing about it in their old folk songs. There is another old dish that still shows up at Slovak get to gathers. It's called "halus'ky". It's small dumplings mixed with bacon fat and sauteed onions topped off with shredded sheep cheese (brinza).
    It took the Empress Maria Theresa to convince the Slovaks to grow and consume potatoes. They became a hit because they are ideal for poor mountain soil which is what Eastern Slovakia is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuyahoga Chuck
    Tom Montgomery was as close to correct as you can get
    Goes without saying, yeah?
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    Default Re: what did peasants in europe eat

    They ate peasant food, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianY View Post
    They ate peasant food, obviously.
    Zactly!

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    Jaysus! Don'tcha know potatoes and tomatoes are spawn of the evil nightshade and poisonous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B_B View Post
    Getting better with age.

    In answer to your question - rye, oats, barley, rarely wheat. many had little gardens with lettuce, radishes, carrots, tomatoes, beets, turnips. Protein came from beans and peas. Wealthier peasants might own a pig, goat, or cow or two in which case they'd have cheese, butter, lard.
    No tomatoes, lots of onions and leeks. In the country mushrooms field picked and hazel nuts.
    In Italy, Spain and Portugal pigs were very important as they can convert acorns to food.
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    First time I heard the term was when the folks took us to a Basque restaurant in Bakersfield and dad said "this is good peasant food". There was a Jai alai court connected to it. The soup was lighter than mom's and the spaghetti had just oilive oil, garlic and parsley.

    One time mom made a stew and said the turnips were good. Years later she told me about working in Germany right after the war and a German family who shared a stew had turnips in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    No tomatoes, lots of onions and leeks. In the country mushrooms field picked and hazel nuts.
    In Italy, Spain and Portugal pigs were very important as they can convert acorns to food.
    Yes, tomatoes.

    Acorns were also ground up into flour and added to rye dough for bread, especially during lean years - I'm guessing they don't taste so good?
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    Hernan Cortez is generally accepted as being the first to introduce the tomato to Europe. 1521 or so.

    European peasants prior to the 16th century did not have the pleasure of marinara sauce.
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    Why would any human being prefer to eat acorns -- which are full of tannic acid and are toxic to humans in quantity -- rather than eat the wildlife and livestock that feed on them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Hernan Cortez is generally accepted as being the first to introduce the tomato to Europe. 1521 or so.
    European peasants prior to the 16th century did not have the pleasure of marinara sauce.
    Question in the OP was "what did peasants in europe [sic] eat before the introduction of the potato?"
    Potatoes were introduced to Europe in 1536.
    So, yes, tomatoes.
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    Damn few if the potato was introduced in 1536 and the tomato in 1521.

    But what is 10 years or so between friends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Seriously Paul?

    They ate stews of oats and/or barley.

    Joe (SoCal) has raved about McCann's on this very Forum.
    Generally it was called pottage. A large pot over the fire into which went anything eatable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Why would any human being prefer to eat acorns -- which are full of tannic acid and are toxic to humans in quantity -- rather than eat the wildlife and livestock that feed on them?
    The people who lived here before me relied on acorns. I've eaten them. I can take you to at least 100 grinding holes, where the women used to grind acorns on rocks by the river.

    They also made the most of exquisite baskets to store and process the acorns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuyahoga Chuck View Post
    Tom Montgomery was a close to correct as you can get because different grain are associated with different geography.
    The Slovaks are pretty much a Pure peasant nation. The war and 40 years of communism helped keep knowledge of the old ways current.
    the traditional dish before the potato was boiled buckwheat. It was called "pohanka". I don't know if anyone consumes it today but they sing about it in their old folk songs. There is another old dish that still shows up at Slovak get to gathers. It's called "halus'ky". It's small dumplings mixed with bacon fat and sauteed onions topped off with shredded sheep cheese (brinza).
    It took the Empress Maria Theresa to convince the Slovaks to grow and consume potatoes. They became a hit because they are ideal for poor mountain soil which is what Eastern Slovakia is.
    Is your "pohanka" about like Polenta?

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    Fruitcake?
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    Pease porridge hot?
    Pease porridge cold?
    Pease porridge in the pot, nine days old?

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    Bread and broth.
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    A friend of mine, a Masters Deg in Food Technology, did all the food for the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit movies. There was a real attempt to make that food as authentic Western European / Caucasian early agricultural age as possible. She gave me a couple of pieces of her "Elven bread" which had become a favourite on set, barley flour with a little yeast and some honey, baked hard. It would keep for a very long time, and apart from being a bit hard on the teeth was seriously good trail food!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Why would any human being prefer to eat acorns -- which are full of tannic acid and are toxic to humans in quantity -- rather than eat the wildlife and livestock that feed on them?
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