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    Shopping around for new boots: general purpose, not specialized, all activity, three season, outdoor wear. I've been buying and wearing through about one pair of mid grade boots every year - Timberlands, RedWings, Vasque - usually in the $200.00 price range. Typically these all fail in one of two ways, and when they do fail there are few satisfactory repairs. Often these boots have a rubber toe and rubber band where the sole meets the upper that is glued on. often the glue fails and this separates from the boot allowing more and more moisture in, which leads to further glue failure. The second type of failure, which is similar is that the multiple layers that the inside is constructed suffers from a glue failure.

    I'm thinking of going to an old school all leather boot other than the sole that can be repaired. I'm willing to pay more for quality, performance, and comfort. I want something reliably waterproof and light weight would be a plus.

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    Doc Martins, 'nuff said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    I'm thinking of going to an old school all leather boot other than the sole that can be repaired.

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    When I think quality boots... I think first of Danner --

    http://www.danner.com/about-danner/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Shopping around for new boots: general purpose, not specialized, all activity, three season, outdoor wear. I've been buying and wearing through about one pair of mid grade boots every year - Timberlands, RedWings, Vasque - usually in the $200.00 price range. Typically these all fail in one of two ways, and when they do fail there are few satisfactory repairs. Often these boots have a rubber toe and rubber band where the sole meets the upper that is glued on. often the glue fails and this separates from the boot allowing more and more moisture in, which leads to further glue failure. The second type of failure, which is similar is that the multiple layers that the inside is constructed suffers from a glue failure.

    I'm thinking of going to an old school all leather boot other than the sole that can be repaired. I'm willing to pay more for quality, performance, and comfort. I want something reliably waterproof and light weight would be a plus.

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    I'm thinking the bolded part is self contradictory. Not really gonna happen.

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    Corcoran 10" Jump Boot

    My "Go To" footwear in tough environments. About $150 at Amzn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John of Phoenix View Post
    Corcoran 10" Jump Boot

    My "Go To" footwear in tough environments. About $150 at Amzn.

    Those bring back memories!

    Long ago, in the early 1980's, I was a young E-2, married, at Ft Rucker for Huey mechanic school. I couldn't afford Corcoran's at the time, and bought the cheaper H&H brand jump boots. Even when transferred to the 101st at Ft Campbell, I still bought H&H brand because they were cheaper.

    Boots were extra important in that Airborne post, because we wore boots with our Class A uniform, bloused and highly shined. Not the typical "low quarter' shoes normally worn with the Class A uniform.

    For the first couple years, I bought into the system, and 'spit shined' (okay, not actual spit, but water, mixed with a touch of rubbing alcohol) every night, and reported to work with highly shined boots and a pressed BDU uniform. (no starch, it was verboten because it could interfere with the anti-IR property of the BDU's, which turned out to be wrong)

    Fun times, but in no way would I wear that style of boot anymore. Once the Army started fighting their wars in the desert, and got rid of boots that had to be shined, life got better for our troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    Those bring back memories!

    Long ago, in the early 1980's, I was a young E-2, married, at Ft Rucker for Huey mechanic school. I couldn't afford Corcoran's at the time, and bought the cheaper H&H brand jump boots. Even when transferred to the 101st at Ft Campbell, I still bought H&H brand because they were cheaper.

    Boots were extra important in that Airborne post, because we wore boots with our Class A uniform, bloused and highly shined. Not the typical "low quarter' shoes normally worn with the Class A uniform.

    For the first couple years, I bought into the system, and 'spit shined' (okay, not actual spit, but water, mixed with a touch of rubbing alcohol) every night, and reported to work with highly shined boots and a pressed BDU uniform. (no starch, it was verboten because it could interfere with the anti-IR property of the BDU's, which turned out to be wrong)

    Fun times, but in no way would I wear that style of boot anymore. Once the Army started fighting their wars in the desert, and got rid of boots that had to be shined, life got better for our troops.
    I've told the story about how the rag-tag 1st Cavalry Division sent 20 Cobras and crews from our fight in Cambodia up to help the 101st Airborne with the ass kicking they'd taken in the Laos cluster****. What helicopters they had left were in critical condition. I actually spent an entire mission holding the canopy door closed on one bird because a hinge was broken and had been for two days. Their uniforms were pressed and their boots were immaculate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domesticated_Mr. Know It All View Post
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    Ugly as snot . . . Hope they're at least comfortable and durable.
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    I've never really settled on footwear, 20 years into my career working outdoors in the weather.

    It's a problem. My solution is a platoon of footwear.

    Everything from old running shoes when it's dry and hot, to Bogs Highliners when it's cold and wet.

    For the last year, I've actually been wearing a pair of Skecher "waterproof" leather boots my wife inadvisably bought for me. They've held up surprisingly well. I never tie them, just clump around with the laces dragging. When it rains, I go to the truck, flip them off, pull on the Bogs. When it warms up and my feet start to sweat, I change into tenny runners.

    It's nice at home because they are easy to take off at the door, which is all She really wants in life.

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    I've had a couple of pair of Danners that fit that bill. The Justins (made in USA) i'm wearing now are just semi-waterproof. You know, water gets in 'em, but takes a long time to get out.

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    I have gone ovr to Doc Martin's there are two flavors, hand made $$$ and the "other" I started with the cheaper version and have found no need to spend more. Comfortable and rugged far beyond average.

    If you want "The Best" handmade boots you can go to Westco's which I wore logging, as a logging machinery mechanic working from a truck. I had lasts made for my feet, and they are rebuildable forever. I've had only three pair in my life. After 20 years of everyday wear, I decided they were too heavy and too rigid. Damn nice though, and I still have a pair for really heavy dangerous work, they were made in 1986, rebuilt once and still very good, I keep them in my work truck.
    https://www.wescoboots.com/builder/About.aspx

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    I kill Doc Martens in about nine months - and they are nothing like waterproof - but very very comfortable.

    P.S. there are a few badged as "Waterproof" - I've not tested them.

    http://www.drmartens.com/uk/c/industrial-boots

    Do you want steelies or just leather uppers?
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    Canvas boat shoe, $29.95, clearance at West Marine. The only shoe I need from April 1st to November 1st
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    Have had a couple pairs of the Red Wing Heritage series (Iron Rangers - don't get the smooth soles, they suck) that are resoleable and somewhat repairable.
    http://www.redwingshoes.com/leather-boots
    At least for me after a resole or two the midsoles and inners on boots have started to wear so much they aren't economically feasible to repair. Nice boots, I got them on sale @ the factory, I'm not sure they are worth $330, but my experience with some recent cheaper boots (Justin's - but the china made ones) suggests just how bad the lower end is.

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    So long as you're not bootless.
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    I'll second the recommendation for Red Wing boots; nothing better.
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    I have a pair of Timberland boots I must have for 20 years. Of course, while that tells you that two decades ago, they made boots that will really last, it tells you absolutely nothing about their current offerings.

    I also wear Bean Boots, which are light and waterproof, though the rubber makes your feet sweat and is cold in winter. They are my cool weather wet-weather boots, ideal in fall and spring in moderate temps between 30F and 50F. Work good on the boat, too. Any hotter or colder and I switch to the Timberlands..

    And, when I'm out sitting in the deer stand or goose pit or out in the snow and really need warmth, I have a pair of 25 year old Sorels, with the felt inserts. They rock.

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    BOOTS - written by Rudyard Kipling

    WE’RE foot—slog—slog—slog—sloggin’ over Africa!
    Foot—foot—foot—foot—sloggin’ over Africa—
    (Boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up and down again!)
    There’s no discharge in the war!

    Seven—six—eleven—five—nine-an’-twenty mile to-day—
    Four—eleven—seventeen—thirty-two the day before—
    (Boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up and down again!)
    There’s no discharge in the war!

    Don’t—don’t—don’t—don’t—look at what’s in front of you.
    (Boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up an’ down again!)
    Men—men—men—men—men go mad with watchin’ ’em,
    And there’s no discharge in the war!

    Try—try—try—try—to think o’ something different—
    Oh—my—God—keep—me from goin’ lunatic!
    (Boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up an’ down again!)
    There’s no discharge in the war!

    Count—count—count—count—the bullets in the bandoliers.
    If—your—eyes—drop—they will get atop o’ you
    (Boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up and down again!)
    There’s no discharge in the war!

    We—can—stick—out—’unger, thirst, an’ weariness,
    But—not—not—not—not the chronic sight of ’em—
    Boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up an’ down again!
    An’ there’s no discharge in the war!

    ’Tain’t—so—bad—by—day because o’ company,
    But—night—brings—long—strings—o’ forty thousand million
    Boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up an’ down again.
    There’s no discharge in the war!

    I—’ave—marched—six—weeks in ’Ell an’ certify
    It—is—not—fire—devils—dark or anything,
    But boots—boots—boots—boots—movin’ up an’ down again,
    An’ there’s no discharge in the war!

    Hope the voyage is a long one.
    May there be many a summer morning when,
    with what pleasure, what joy,
    you come into harbors seen for the first time...

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    After countless pairs of quality work boots I've settled on Keen mid height hikers. I get about two years out of a pair with daily construction work and quite a bit of hiking. They're light, have a sturdy enough sole and a very tough toe cap that comes up to the laces. Waterproof enough for anything short of wading.

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    Personally, I wear Merrell Hikers for work boots. Summertime it's tennies. The last tennies I bought were Asics at maybe $150... and they have lasted many years. 6? 8? A model designed for overweight folks to wear as they start a walking regimen. Very comfie, but they are ready for replacement. The Merrell's get more use, and rougher use. I forget what they cost. Maybe $175? But they have also lasted many years. I'm gonna say 8-10. They are also showing signs that they won't last forever. I've got some Merrell tennies also... and I've been quite happy with them.
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    Redback boots..... I get 4 years from a pair, 7 days , 52 weeks a year.
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    If you want leather boots to survive a lot of wet usage they need to have a good coating of mutton fat or dubbin frequently worked into them.

    I wear a local brand of boots of the same type as Peter advocates. They last well and are easy to pull off when going indoors.
    There is nothing quite as permanent as a good temporary repair.

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    At Cabela's I bought a pair of leather/nylon combo boots a couple of years ago. Works for me. Their brand.
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    Kulien Hand Made Shoes in Centralia, WA. There are no better boots - period. You will pay more than $200 though.

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    If you want to make a real investment, find a cobbler that makes bespoke boots. Theyll run you maybe $600, but with proper maintenance and repair will last a lifetime.
    I'll just take my chances with those salt water joys.

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    Red Wing 866 Wellingtons, if you want a pull-on. They also made a similar lace-up boot of the same construction. If Red Wing still makes either. Won't suffer the kind of failures you noted. Not cheap, $200+, you can pay more, but I don't think will be more durable. Construction is good, but even quality leather has lifespan limitations. I treated my 866s with their boot oil (neatsfoot oil) with some silicone oil added (about 1/4) for some water resistance for casual wear, however when I needed increased waterproofing, I melted in some Sno Seal. However that doesn't condition the leather as good as the neatsfoot oil. And these are not designed to be waterproof boots. Also, I find the wedge sole on the 866s to be comfortable and cushioning, but when you wear down the heel, it requires a complete resole, which is expensive. I'd check first if there is a local shoe repair that can grind out just the heel section and cement in a replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
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    I'm thinking of going to an old school all leather boot other than the sole that can be repaired. I'm willing to pay more for quality, performance, and comfort. I want something reliably waterproof and light weight would be a plus.

    Recommendations?
    The big ask in that spec is "Repairable".

    Forty some years ago I knew a cobbler who made boots for hill shepherds in the Cheviots - hand built with oak pegged soles rather than stitched (Acidic wet peat does horrible things to natural threads) - these were repairable almost indefinately but lord alone knows where you'd go to find his like nowadays.

    If you really need repairable rather than effective, comfortable and ultimately disposable then - First find your cobbler.
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    "Visionary" is he who in every egg sees a carbonara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    The big ask in that spec is "Repairable".

    Forty some years ago I knew a cobbler who made boots for hill shepherds in the Cheviots - hand built with oak pegged soles rather than stitched (Acidic wet peat does horrible things to natural threads) - these were repairable almost indefinately but lord alone knows where you'd go to find his like nowadays.

    If you really need repairable rather than effective, comfortable and ultimately disposable then - First find your cobbler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    Ho Chi Minh 10,000 milers, all ya need is an old tire.
    I wear something very similar. We call them huaraches.

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    Interesting, because my wife has problems with soles/rands separating from the upper but I never have, and I'm much harder on my shoes than she is. Re-gluing her soles with either 3M 5200 or Lexel has worked well, so you might try this to get another season out of your boots.

    For me, after 20 years in traditional boots and Sno Seal (Danners, various Italian brands) I finally got tired of soggy feet in wet snow, but it was mostly the the weight, a pound or two more than comparable glued sole boots. In the Cascades above the treeline, I haven't seen a traditional stitched sole in years. That technology belongs with canvas tents and manila rope, in my opinion.

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    I have a pair of Asolos I really like. They're more of a heavy backpacking boot than general purpose, though. They were $280-sh at EMS when I bought them ~9 years ago.



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