Machine gun attack in france

[skuthorp]

Two police and one attacker killed.

Police say too early to tell whether it's a terrorist attack, but Donald has already made up his mind.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-2...ooting/8459914

[birlinn]

BBC has one policeman killed, two injured.
All the presidential candidates have called off further campaigning as a mark of respect.

[jack grebe]

I didn't think you could own a machine gun in France?

[birlinn]

Legally, anyway.

[Peerie Maa]

I didn't think you could own a machine gun in France?

Correct, however

Once European terrorists realized the strategic advantages of guns, they quickly discovered they were surprisingly easy to find. Just beyond the countries of Western Europe, with their restrictive gun laws, lie the Balkan states, awash with illegal weapons left over from the conflicts that raged there in the 1990s. According to the Switzerland-based Small Arms Survey, there are anywhere between three million and six million firearms in circulation in the Western Balkans—and possibly more.

from http://time.com/how-europes-terrorists-get-their-guns/

[jack grebe]

So much for gun control..........sheesh........

[genglandoh]

Everyone who visited Paris will be saying "I was in that area"

[Peerie Maa]

So much for gun control..........sheesh........

Yep, they have to smuggle them in, rather than going to a Gun Show and plonking down some dollars.

[genglandoh]

Title: Paris gunman who killed police officer known to security forces, source says
A man who shot a Parisian police officer to death on the Champs-Elysees Thursday night was known to French security services for radical Islamist activities, a source close to the investigation told CNN.
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/europe...sed/index.html

[Breakaway]

So much for gun control..........sheesh........

Laws against guns, yet miraculously, the criminals still have guns. How, oh, how can it be?

Kevin

[S.V. Airlie]

Geng, you really should take a different train. Taking the same one must be pretty tedious every day. It would be for me.

[SMARTINSEN]

Geng, you really should take a different train. Taking the same one must be pretty tedious every day. It would be for me.

Yes, I was going to say tha Jeff stole geng's thunder, but I see that he is hot on the case.

[seanz]

with strong gun laws you still have murderous terrorists, murderous toddlers, not so much

[genglandoh]

The weapon used was an AK-47 and they are looking for a second suspect.

Title: PARIS SHOOTING Paris shooting leaves one policeman dead and ‘two seriously injured’ as ‘ISIS terrorists armed with AK47s’ open fire on the Champs-Élysée in Paris
Link: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/337691...hamps-elysees/

Title: Police issue arrest warrant for second suspect in Paris shooting: document
Police have issued an arrest warrant for a second suspect in the shooting that killed at least one policeman and wounded two others seriously at the Champs Elysees in Paris on Thursday night, according to a document obtained by Reuters.
The warrant said the man had arrived in France by train from Belgium.
Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fr...KBN17M2PL?il=0

[Ron Williamson]

Laws against guns, yet miraculously, the criminals still have guns. How, oh, how can it be?

Kevin

FLICK it. Why bother with any laws at all?
R

[bobbys]

Not enough information yet to say who is responsible.

Perhaps it was the Amish. ( notice Amish Rob has not denied it) , maybe it was the little sisters of the poor, the tea party, could be the NRA in a false flag operation, , crusaders, Elvis,, no we have no idea who could have done this..

the authorities are completely baffled.

[Phillip Allen]

Not enough information yet to say who is responsible.

Perhaps it was the Amish. ( notice Amish Rob has not denied it) , maybe it was the little sisters of the poor, the tea party, could be the NRA in a false flag operation, , crusaders, Elvis,, no we have no idea who could have done this..

the authorities are completely baffled.

ISIS has claimed credit

[bobbys]

ISIS has claimed credit

.

It was a lone wolf.

They asked the local mosque and no one knew him.

The neighbors said he was a very nice guy, gave candy to little orphans .

Let's not blame all of Islam.

why cannot we have tougher gun laws.

he was a poor person and had no choice.

If we only had more refugees. Instead of being haters.

. His girlfriend never saw this coming.

someone said there were no go zones and he broke when he heard this.

Trump pushed him over the edge.

Islam is a religion of peace..

The police look like military and he could not handle it.

the jews, yeah, the jews......

[genglandoh]

.

It was a lone wolf.

They asked the local mosque and no one knew him.

The neighbors said he was a very nice guy, gave candy to little orphans .

Let's not blame all of Islam.

why cannot we have tougher gun laws.

he was a poor person and had no choice.

If we only had more refugees. Instead of being haters.

. His girlfriend never saw this coming.

someone said there were no go zones and he broke when he heard this.

Trump pushed him over the edge.

Islam is a religion of peace..

The police look like military and he could not handle it.

the jews, yeah, the jews......

I would number them so Libs can understand them better.

[jack grebe]

FLICK it. Why bother with any laws at all?
R

My thoughts exactly........ And no way for anyone to stop it or defend themselves.....sad.
I really think france needs to develop a gun culture and stop being victims....
..

[LeeG]

Everyone who visited Paris will be saying "I was in that area"

Yes

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/100639918/

[genglandoh]

Everyone who visited Paris will be saying "I was in that area"

Last year Paris had about 80 million foreign visitors.

[Dave Hadfield]

.

It was a lone wolf.

They asked the local mosque and no one knew him.

The neighbors said he was a very nice guy, gave candy to little orphans .

Let's not blame all of Islam.

why cannot we have tougher gun laws.

he was a poor person and had no choice.

If we only had more refugees. Instead of being haters.

. His girlfriend never saw this coming.

someone said there were no go zones and he broke when he heard this.

Trump pushed him over the edge.

Islam is a religion of peace..

The police look like military and he could not handle it.

the jews, yeah, the jews......

Good post.

[BrianW]

Two police and one attacker killed.

Police say too early to tell whether it's a terrorist attack, but Donald has already made up his mind.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-2...ooting/8459914

So Trump was right. Nice of you to point that out.

[PeterSibley]

How would a terrorist get hold of an automatic weapon in the USA? It couldn't happen there.

[jack grebe]

How would a terrorist get hold of an automatic weapon in the USA? It couldn't happen there.

Doesn't matter, criminals will always get what they want. Gun control
laws can't stop that.

[Paul Pless]

Doesn't matter, criminals will always get what they want. Gun control
laws can't stop that.

i guess the fundamental tenants of economics, supply and demand, don't apply to criminals

[jack grebe]

i guess the fundamental tenants of economics, supply and demand, don't apply to criminals

Supply and demand regulate price, not availability.

[genglandoh]

Questions are being asked.

How did security services fail to stop terrorist who tried to buy weapons to kill police last month?
Killer who spent 15 years in prison for shooting officers was on watch list after fresh arrest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4etG6Bqa2

[Dave Hadfield]

They are better at stopping these Islamic fundamentalist terror attacks in the UK, although the recent truck attack was a wild card.

After the attack in Paris (where 140 were killed), the UK PM, Brian Cameron, disclosed that they had foiled 7 such attempts that year so far. Seven! And it was only November.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ix-months.html


Thank goodness for the Channel.

[Paul Pless]

Supply and demand regulate price, not availability.

'supply and demand' establish price

supply is 'availability'