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    Two police and one attacker killed.

    Police say too early to tell whether it's a terrorist attack, but Donald has already made up his mind.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-2...ooting/8459914
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    BBC has one policeman killed, two injured.
    All the presidential candidates have called off further campaigning as a mark of respect.

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    I didn't think you could own a machine gun in France?
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    Legally, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    I didn't think you could own a machine gun in France?
    Correct, however
    Once European terrorists realized the strategic advantages of guns, they quickly discovered they were surprisingly easy to find. Just beyond the countries of Western Europe, with their restrictive gun laws, lie the Balkan states, awash with illegal weapons left over from the conflicts that raged there in the 1990s. According to the Switzerland-based Small Arms Survey, there are anywhere between three million and six million firearms in circulation in the Western Balkans—and possibly more.
    from http://time.com/how-europes-terrorists-get-their-guns/
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    So much for gun control..........sheesh........
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    Everyone who visited Paris will be saying "I was in that area"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    So much for gun control..........sheesh........
    Yep, they have to smuggle them in, rather than going to a Gun Show and plonking down some dollars.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Title: Paris gunman who killed police officer known to security forces, source says
    A man who shot a Parisian police officer to death on the Champs-Elysees Thursday night was known to French security services for radical Islamist activities, a source close to the investigation told CNN.
    Link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/europe...sed/index.html

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    So much for gun control..........sheesh........
    Laws against guns, yet miraculously, the criminals still have guns. How, oh, how can it be?

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    Geng, you really should take a different train. Taking the same one must be pretty tedious every day. It would be for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    Geng, you really should take a different train. Taking the same one must be pretty tedious every day. It would be for me.
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    with strong gun laws you still have murderous terrorists, murderous toddlers, not so much
    We don't know how lucky we are....

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    The weapon used was an AK-47 and they are looking for a second suspect.

    Title: PARIS SHOOTING Paris shooting leaves one policeman dead and ‘two seriously injured’ as ‘ISIS terrorists armed with AK47s’ open fire on the Champs-Élysée in Paris
    Link: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/337691...hamps-elysees/

    Title: Police issue arrest warrant for second suspect in Paris shooting: document
    Police have issued an arrest warrant for a second suspect in the shooting that killed at least one policeman and wounded two others seriously at the Champs Elysees in Paris on Thursday night, according to a document obtained by Reuters.
    The warrant said the man had arrived in France by train from Belgium.
    Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fr...KBN17M2PL?il=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    Laws against guns, yet miraculously, the criminals still have guns. How, oh, how can it be?

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    Not enough information yet to say who is responsible.

    Perhaps it was the Amish. ( notice Amish Rob has not denied it) , maybe it was the little sisters of the poor, the tea party, could be the NRA in a false flag operation, , crusaders, Elvis,, no we have no idea who could have done this..

    the authorities are completely baffled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Not enough information yet to say who is responsible.

    Perhaps it was the Amish. ( notice Amish Rob has not denied it) , maybe it was the little sisters of the poor, the tea party, could be the NRA in a false flag operation, , crusaders, Elvis,, no we have no idea who could have done this..

    the authorities are completely baffled.
    ISIS has claimed credit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Allen View Post
    ISIS has claimed credit
    .

    It was a lone wolf.

    They asked the local mosque and no one knew him.

    The neighbors said he was a very nice guy, gave candy to little orphans .

    Let's not blame all of Islam.

    why cannot we have tougher gun laws.

    he was a poor person and had no choice.

    If we only had more refugees. Instead of being haters.

    . His girlfriend never saw this coming.

    someone said there were no go zones and he broke when he heard this.

    Trump pushed him over the edge.

    Islam is a religion of peace..

    The police look like military and he could not handle it.

    the jews, yeah, the jews......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    .

    It was a lone wolf.

    They asked the local mosque and no one knew him.

    The neighbors said he was a very nice guy, gave candy to little orphans .

    Let's not blame all of Islam.

    why cannot we have tougher gun laws.

    he was a poor person and had no choice.

    If we only had more refugees. Instead of being haters.

    . His girlfriend never saw this coming.

    someone said there were no go zones and he broke when he heard this.

    Trump pushed him over the edge.

    Islam is a religion of peace..

    The police look like military and he could not handle it.

    the jews, yeah, the jews......
    I would number them so Libs can understand them better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Williamson View Post
    FLICK it. Why bother with any laws at all?
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    My thoughts exactly........ And no way for anyone to stop it or defend themselves.....sad.
    I really think france needs to develop a gun culture and stop being victims....
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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Everyone who visited Paris will be saying "I was in that area"
    Yes

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/100639918/

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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Everyone who visited Paris will be saying "I was in that area"
    Last year Paris had about 80 million foreign visitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    .

    It was a lone wolf.

    They asked the local mosque and no one knew him.

    The neighbors said he was a very nice guy, gave candy to little orphans .

    Let's not blame all of Islam.

    why cannot we have tougher gun laws.

    he was a poor person and had no choice.

    If we only had more refugees. Instead of being haters.

    . His girlfriend never saw this coming.

    someone said there were no go zones and he broke when he heard this.

    Trump pushed him over the edge.

    Islam is a religion of peace..

    The police look like military and he could not handle it.

    the jews, yeah, the jews......
    Good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Two police and one attacker killed.

    Police say too early to tell whether it's a terrorist attack, but Donald has already made up his mind.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-2...ooting/8459914
    So Trump was right. Nice of you to point that out.
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    How would a terrorist get hold of an automatic weapon in the USA? It couldn't happen there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    How would a terrorist get hold of an automatic weapon in the USA? It couldn't happen there.
    Doesn't matter, criminals will always get what they want. Gun control
    laws can't stop that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Doesn't matter, criminals will always get what they want. Gun control
    laws can't stop that.
    i guess the fundamental tenants of economics, supply and demand, don't apply to criminals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    i guess the fundamental tenants of economics, supply and demand, don't apply to criminals
    Supply and demand regulate price, not availability.
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    Questions are being asked.

    How did security services fail to stop terrorist who tried to buy weapons to kill police last month?
    Killer who spent 15 years in prison for shooting officers was on watch list after fresh arrest
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4etG6Bqa2

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    They are better at stopping these Islamic fundamentalist terror attacks in the UK, although the recent truck attack was a wild card.

    After the attack in Paris (where 140 were killed), the UK PM, Brian Cameron, disclosed that they had foiled 7 such attempts that year so far. Seven! And it was only November.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ix-months.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Supply and demand regulate price, not availability.
    'supply and demand' establish price

    supply is 'availability'
    Last edited by Paul Pless; 04-21-2017 at 04:09 PM.
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