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    [IMc - As with any attempt at historical analysis, especially when events are so close and consequences remain imperfectly understood, this bit cannot be a complete and perfect explanation. But it does provide important perspectives.]

    Was It Racism or Desire for Authoritarian Leadership That Elected Trump? The Right Answer Is Both
    New data suggests Trump voters have highly negative views of African Americans. But that's not the whole story.

    By Heather Digby Parton
    Salon April 18, 2017

    I don’t think I’ve ever experienced an election in which there was so much disagreement after the fact about what led to the result. The postmortems are endless this time and we don’t seem to be getting any closer to a consensus. It’s understandable that people would be intensely curious to figure out why there was such a pronounced and unprecedented split between the winner of the popular vote and the winner of the Electoral College. That has been an exceedingly rare occurrence — in the era of popular elections, it happened only once before 2000 — that is suddenly the norm for Republican presidential victories. Something isn’t working quite right in our democracy, and it stands to reason that people would want to find out what it is.

    Much of the debate on this issue has been whether the reason for Donald Trump’s narrow victory in certain states was because of economic anxiety or racism, xenophobia, sexism and resistance to the changing demographic makeup of the nation. The main question centers around non-college-educated whites who had voted for President Barack Obama twice but changed to Trump in 2016.

    The criticism of Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been that she spent too much time talking about “identity politics” and not enough time talking about economics, which made members of the white working class who felt particularly anxious about their futures turn to the man who promised to “bring back jobs.” Considering the long-term degradation of the manufacturing base and the recent economic catastrophe associated with the 2007 financial crisis and ensuing Great Recession, it’s not unreasonable to make that assumption.

    On the other hand, it’s impossible to ignore the blatantly racist, xenophobic and sexist appeal of the Trump campaign and dismiss the likelihood that it was central to his win. His campaign was organized around demonizing “the other” from the moment he descending that golden elevator and declared that Mexicans were rapists and criminals. From then on his entire pitch was aimed at foreigners or American “bad dudes” whom he pledged to deport, defeat, demoralize or destroy. His “American carnage” worldview was a white nationalist refrain aimed directly at the ugly American racist id.

    Political scientists have been busily crunching numbers and analyzing data and we’re finally able to get a sense of the attitudes that shaped the race. Obviously, it’s early days and there will still be intense disagreement about the interpretation but at least we have something to go by. A new study by John Sides, Michael Tesler and Lynn Vavreck, published in Journal of Democracy (and soon to be a book) concludes that voters were not angry about the economy and were actually growing more optimistic. According to the authors’ data, throughout the Obama presidency politics became more racialized, with non-college-educated whites developing less and less favorable attitudes towards African-Americans and moving toward the Republican Party.

    Race played a much bigger part in this election, compared to Obama’s two elections, mainly because Trump played it up as an issue in ways John McCain and Mitt Romney refused to do. The voters who flipped from Obama to Trump also correlated to those who held strongly negative views on immigration. (This analysis from the Los Angeles Times bears out that conclusion as well. The numbers are stark and obvious.) In other words Trump’s hard sell on race and ethnicity was what sold this group of non-college-educated whites.

    Thomas Wood at the Washington Post’s Monkey Cage blog reports that the 2016 American National Election Study has been released, and he offers a similar analysis based on the data provided. He doesn’t delve too much into the question of economic anxiety except to note the unusual fact that poorer whites gravitated to Trump while “the degree to which the wealthy disdained the 2016 Republican candidate was without recent historical precedent.” That’s an interesting way of looking at this question I hadn’t heard before. Too bad he doesn’t elaborate.

    Woods’ focus is on a different question, and frankly an odd one: Was it racism or a longing for authoritarian leadership that constituted the greatest appeal for Trump voters? His analysis shows that Trump voters are actually slightly less authoritarian than Republicans are in general, but that someone with attitudes that correlate to racism was 20 times more likely to vote for Trump. So he concludes that authoritarianism was not a determining factor.

    I think that may be misleading. In American culture, authoritarian attitudes and racism go hand in hand. And while the test designed to scope out authoritarian leanings is probably accurate, it seems to me that it’s impossible to separate the two impulses. Institutional racism in America exists at all levels of society, but government authority and criminal justice have always been at the center of it.

    In order to determine someone’s predilection for authoritarianism, which is defined in the questionnaire as a fear of chaos and a desire for strong leadership, voters are asked about their child-rearing beliefs. In this test, Trump voters were less likely than Republicans generally have been in the past to say they believe in being “obedient.” That may normally be a signifier of an authoritarian personality, but it’s also possible that Trump voters see “obedience” at the moment as a capitulation to “political correctness,” to which they are very much opposed. In any case, Republicans of all stripes, including Trump voters, are strongly authoritarian. The data shows they only hold anti-authoritarian views when it comes to being “well behaved,” as they amply demonstrated at Trump’s campaign rallies and the Republican National Convention.

    The fact of the matter is that Trump’s proclamation “I am the law and order candidate” was a direct throwback to Richard Nixon and George Wallace’s thinly veiled racism of the 1960s. His constant references to inner-city violence and promises to empower the police, the border patrol and ICE agents to “get the job done” were part and parcel of his racist appeal. His voters not only agreed with his dark racial views, they enthusiastically endorsed his promises to do something about it.

    By the way, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Trump’s most serious henchman and a living embodiment of racist authoritarianism, is working day and night to make sure that even if the new president flip-flops on everything else, his pledge to crack down on people of color will be honored.

    Heather Digby Parton, also known as "Digby," is a contributing writer to Salon. She was the winner of the 2014 Hillman Prize for Opinion and Analysis Journalism.

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    Institutional racism in America exists at all levels of society, but government authority and criminal justice have always been at the center of it.
    This particular sentence is ahistorical nonsense. "Always at the center"? Utter codswallop. Sometimes, no doubt. The rest of the article isn't bad, but that jumped out at me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    This particular sentence is ahistorical nonsense. "Always at the center"? Utter codswallop. Sometimes, no doubt. The rest of the article isn't bad, but that jumped out at me.
    It is feasible. Institutional racism in our police was identified as an issue some time ago. If we had it so could you.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Institutional racism in America exists at all levels of society, but government authority and criminal justice have always been at the center of it.
    Where else would you expect to find it? Criminal justice is the government, directly; in supposedly private institutions, such as restrictive covenants and membership in the country club, the force of government is behind the ostensible privateness. But racism lives on the culture even as the institutional part fades. That's what elected Trump. The rationalizations have a life of their own.

    And it can go on with or without authoritarianism. You can find the sweetest old aunties, let the kids get away with murder and never say more than tsk tsk. But they fear the Ns and advocate the strongest measures for keeping them away. No more force than necessary, of course. They're not authoritarians. Otherwise they are models of liberal tolerance.

    Indeed, that's the problem for the Rs. Aunties can't be motivated by authoritarianism, only by racism. Hence the appeal. Get 'em out by promising to be the only ones in their corner.

    Seems lots of Trump voters admitted to being first time voters. They were too young to vote for Nixon or Wallace. But they were induced to vote this time, by this appeal, which was made this time, after a de-emphasis. Cause and effect were separated as if by design, to re-demonstrate the connection.
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    All of the Trumpkins I can think of fit the definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    It is feasible. Institutional racism in our police was identified as an issue some time ago. If we had it so could you.
    Oh, sure. There has been serious racism in many of our police departments at various times, and it certainly still exists, if diminished. My beef was with the phrase 'government authority and criminal justice have always been at the center of it' , which seems way, way too broad - both 'always' and 'at the center'. Racism in government and criminal justice in the US, while in certain times and places quite atrocious, has reflected popular attitudes. Possibly picking nits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    has reflected popular attitudes.
    Now that is a serious issue that needs to be addressed head on.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    I would add a third category: delusional. To believe the contradictory pap and crap that came out of our current president's campaign to the point where you would vote for him is the height of delusion.

    Delusion, however, can be cured more easily than racism or love of authority. Hopefully some of his voters will wise up and bite differently next time.
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    Always at the center? We were founded with laws supporting slavery, kept it another more than four score and seven, and replaced it with Jim Crow. In the life of a nation, that's pretty much always.

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    Nice try, Ian, but I have stuff I need to get done, today.






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