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    ...Given all of this, is it really so wrong for people to exploit themselves and their image for monetary gain themselves? Individuals no longer need marketers to exploit them or people like them. They can do it themselves via the internet and social media and cut out the middle man. Isn't technology wonderful?
    To be honest, yeah I think it's a problem when people exploit themselves in such ways. Not that they're making a buck off selling the experience of being out there doing ... whatever they're out there doing. But when they're not honest with their viewing public that this is a paid, promotional gig, and that the oh-so-spontaneous image down by that lonesome beach was the result of a locations crew doing the scouting, and a few hours of fluffing the scenery and the sleepy alternative goddess' makeup and tousled hair. It's perfectly fine doing that in a movie or TV show, where we already know it's an idealization which only occurs with writers and staff. But when the "product" being marketed is the absence of marketing? The alternative and no-strings lifestyle unencumbered by commercial influence? It's in the same family as plagiarism, as alternative facts.

    One of the Daughter's acquaintances is getting married in June - an acquaintance on FaceBook because of some groups I've led, though my FB settings are such that I've tried to preclude seeing her every thought made pixels. Because she's generated this fantasy, self-documented pixelated cartoon of a life. Where everything is buttercups and maple sugar and aggressively Christian demure smiles, with artfully draped tresses of auburn hair catching the light just-so to hint at the fires beneath. The guy she's marrying, poor sod, is a wondrous and fitting complement to her manufactured wonderfulness. They made a photo-essay of their engagement last Fall, in which the guy built a temporary cabin under flaming Autumn maples, where he served a hand-crafted meal with silver candlesticks, and as the light faded he pulled out the ring. With the setting sun catching its brilliance just so as he placed it on her finger. I don't want to know how long it took to create the "surprise" photo-book, or how many takes were discarded before a photo-edited smile and ring were pronounced "perfect" and "spontaneous."

    This isn't life. This is a form of narcissism that mistakes the world for a backdrop and a camera tripod for a friend. It's a pernicious and real-life example of the kind of curated-experience-of-my-awesomeness that these blogs somehow lead one to believe ought to be real. God help her if my acquaintance ever has an argument with the dude, or discovers him watching porn or something. God help her now that she's 10 years older than when she began this curated perfect life, and in another 10 she won't be as perfectly flawlessly full of wonderfulness anymore.

    I don't think the artful lies of commercially-sponsored alternative lifestyles did her any favours. It fanned into flames a personality disorder that would probably have stayed mostly dormant otherwise, but which is a growing embarrassment now of which she's not really able to become aware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domesticated_Mr. Know It All View Post
    There's a fine line between homeless and Hippy.
    Hippies usually have better weed.
    They always do.

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    Tom - I can't tell you how heartening it is to find that Even You own a hobbyhorse or two <G>
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    Oh man, this particular thing drives me round the bend. In case perhaps I wasn't quite clear on that ...
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    The old hippies are still doing it too, or again..... Called Fulltime RV'ers
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    Tom -

    I understand and agree with what you're saying. This stuff drives me crazy too. But that's because...and I'm sorry to say it...we're old. Young people constantly project a carefully constructed false image through social media and they accept that their peers and their idols do the same thing. It's a world in which product placement and advertising is so integrated into everyday experience that it's considered normal...something that just is. Everything is a commercial and everything and everyone is for sale and everything can be purchased with a few of clicks of the buttons on a telephone. There is nothing real about anything or anyone but "authenticity" is prized...as long as it can be bought online and delivered the next day. Advertisers and media promote unrealistic ideals of material and personal perfection as the key to happiness (as they have always done) and young folks eat it up because they have money to spend, products and services are cheaper and more available than ever and technology allows them to be ordered and delivered incredibly quickly.

    It is a shallow, materialistic and narcissistic culture but it is "normal" for this generation. I hope they grow out of it, but I'm not optimistic that they will.
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    I hear you. And I'll continue to resist it with my old codger's grit and bones. .
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    The old way of getting a job and staying for life has gone. Short term contracting and self employment is becoming normal.
    Entrepreneurship takes many forms and variations in the ethics of the proprietors are to be expected. Some ethical ones fail, some dodgy ones succeed wildly…one is your President now.

    But PT Barnum always comes to mind….
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    It is a shallow, materialistic and narcissistic culture but it is "normal" for this generation. I hope they grow out of it . . .
    I haven't found this to be true to nearly that degree for my kids and their friends. Some of them, sometimes, in a small way, but most of them post badly-composed selfies they took quickly while they were having fun doing something real. No doubt there are some folks who do as you describe, but I sure haven't run into many among the ones I know.

    Old guys have been grousing about how the young are degenerating since we lived in caves, and probably even longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Why do people have a need to tear down people that live in unconventional ways? What difference does it make to you how this woman lives?
    It's not at all unconventional. It's just an entertainer shilling for something, they abound in our society today.

    Creating impossible to meet expectations because the experience is totally fake and managed. Filling what used to be nice places with other people who are just shilling. Exploiting the world. They are the new strip miners, they just do it with our emotions.

    Look no further than Zuckerberg for a prime example of this fake posturing. The man has a staff of more than a dozen curating his Facebook page. He hires professional photographers to shoot him running for posting on his page. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-facebook-page

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    Similar sentiments showed up on a bicycle touring forum. Young folks talking about online funding and old codgers saying "wtf? Just go!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    Hippies will be the downfall of America, they reproduced.
    I certainly did.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    At the bottom of the jalopnik link was another about luxury helicopters flying into Burning Man.
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    The New Yorker profile is very nuanced and interesting for those who want a longer read. You need an attention span. Recommended:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...media-movement

    oops didn't see oznabrag's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I don't really know, because I am woefully unfamiliar with youtubers and vloggers or bloggers.
    My kids watch some youtubers, but they are always people doing something. Either toy reviews (Oldest Son has an INSANE collection of toys. Collection. It's like a museum) or people falling on their heads, usually.

    By famous, I meant people who are known not for doing, but simply being. Being famous for doing 300 backflips in a row is different than being famous for taking pictures of yourself in different outfits, I think.

    I'd place Dylan and John in the category of people who want to share, and even maybe profit from, content. That's a little different than showing up and offering to do whatever for money and exposure, I think.

    Oh, and I ain't mad at the kids. They just need to tell the bottle sponsor they'll get their shots when and where they get them. Be the Boss neo-dropouts!

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    woo hoo

    mentioned in the same thread as hippies

    I am indeed a digital pioneer and find myself among illustrious company

    One of the things that always amazes me is the way that some people dismiss the effort that goes into creating these on-line slices of entertainment - for that is what they are be they a couple of kids in a van or people sailing the Caribbean and besporting themselves on $500,000 foredecks

    the top sailors in this genre - sv delos and la vagabonde are currently earning around $9,000 a week. But the two top ones work really hard at it. They churn out a film a week, which from a boat is bloody hard.

    Imagine sitting down below in a wonderful boat in a lovely location slaving away at a laptop while those old people in the boats around you are sitting, swimming and generally arsing around.

    I myself am a lazy old fart and only make eight films a year. I used to bundle them together onto a DVD - and then post them out in padded bags to small boat sailors all over the world.

    Each DVD set cost $25 - printing, boxes, postage etc cost me $10

    I could sustain my sailing habit with just 1000 dvd sets a year. Incidentally the editing is much more time consuming than the filming and entails endless hours sitting at the desk editing, colour balancing, sound mixing, graphics etc etc.

    Then, as the man from sony said "DVD sales appear to have fallen off a cliff".

    In January realised that I did not have enough cash in the budget to sail in scotland this coming year so within a week of deciding to cut my costs the Centaur had been sold so all the filming has stopped.

    I have ten more films to post and will then decide what happens next.

    Until I sold the boat around 1.5 per cent of the blokes who watched every film chipped in

    then I sold the boat and now around 5 per cent are chipping in so that has more or less put me back on target for a re-boot next winter - although flogging the filming platform now means that I have a bit of a bump to get around.

    In the sailing area There are around 50 people making sailing films - only two make serious money and they feature lots of bikinis and breasts. The current market leader la vagabonde, has just
    acquired a new french catamaran and a splendid pair of plastic busters. However, my guess is that their sailing experience is thoroughly compromised by the money making side of their existence.

    so here is a little film I made about sailing in scotland where bikinis are as rare as hen's teeth

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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Tom - I can't tell you how heartening it is to find that Even You own a hobbyhorse or two <G>
    Gee, I've got a whole herd of them. Mostly though I can keep them under control but the bilge, among other things, gets them galloping around a bit at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylan winter View Post
    woo hoo

    mentioned in the same thread as hippies

    I am indeed a digital pioneer and find myself among illustrious company

    One of the things that always amazes me is the way that some people dismiss the effort that goes into creating these on-line slices of entertainment - for that is what they are be they a couple of kids in a van or people sailing the Caribbean and besporting themselves on $500,000 foredecks

    the top sailors in this genre - sv delos and la vagabonde are currently earning around $9,000 a week. But the two top ones work really hard at it. They churn out a film a week, which from a boat is bloody hard.

    Imagine sitting down below in a wonderful boat in a lovely location slaving away at a laptop while those old people in the boats around you are sitting, swimming and generally arsing around.

    I myself am a lazy old fart and only make eight films a year. I used to bundle them together onto a DVD - and then post them out in padded bags to small boat sailors all over the world.

    Each DVD set cost $25 - printing, boxes, postage etc cost me $10

    I could sustain my sailing habit with just 1000 dvd sets a year. Incidentally the editing is much more time consuming than the filming and entails endless hours sitting at the desk editing, colour balancing, sound mixing, graphics etc etc.

    Then, as the man from sony said "DVD sales appear to have fallen off a cliff".

    In January realised that I did not have enough cash in the budget to sail in scotland this coming year so within a week of deciding to cut my costs the Centaur had been sold so all the filming has stopped.

    I have ten more films to post and will then decide what happens next.

    Until I sold the boat around 1.5 per cent of the blokes who watched every film chipped in

    then I sold the boat and now around 5 per cent are chipping in so that has more or less put me back on target for a re-boot next winter - although flogging the filming platform now means that I have a bit of a bump to get around.

    In the sailing area There are around 50 people making sailing films - only two make serious money and they feature lots of bikinis and breasts. The current market leader la vagabonde, has just
    acquired a new french catamaran and a splendid pair of plastic busters. However, my guess is that their sailing experience is thoroughly compromised by the money making side of their existence.

    so here is a little film I made about sailing in scotland where bikinis are as rare as hen's teeth

    Dylan, I greatly enjoy your videos, they're what I watch of an evening when I've had a bad day, your mellifluous tones and gentle humour combined with the lovely scenery helps to put a barrier in between my troubles and my sleep. Thanks so much.
    I do feel guilty about not having contributed to your coffers but there is a crafty plan being developed that could see Howard and myself coming and buying the two of you dinner sometime soon.
    "Soon" being a highly variable quantity.

    By the way, I much prefer video without bikinis. Not without girls, without bikinis. Heh!

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    Thank you dylan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Thank you dylan.
    thanks for taking the time to say thanks

    no tits in the KTL films so making films is no longer an economic proposition

    despite promises from Welsford of jam tomorrow

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    From Pulp Fiction, so language alert.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Thank you dylan.
    That was good, very pleasant indeed .

    Thank you Dylan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    Gee, I've got a whole herd of them. Mostly though I can keep them under control but the bilge, among other things, gets them galloping around a bit at times.

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    The steel build and sail your dream people have the adventuring while taking great bikini videos covered by Jules and Suzie of SS Emerald Steel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSdjeMnAVWY , and 20 years of sailing the good life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F90zTSnBP4 did not diminish welder Suzie's charms!
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    There are a number of sailors doing this. Check out the Delos videos.

    They present an image of free young-ish people sailing the world, untrammelled, untroubled, with pretty girls who go topless a lot.

    It seems to work. I wouldn't mind signing-on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hadfield View Post
    There are a number of sailors doing this. Check out the Delos videos.

    They present an image of free young-ish people sailing the world, untrammelled, untroubled, with pretty girls who go topless a lot.

    It seems to work. I wouldn't mind signing-on.
    Delos make $9K a week - so it is a really serious endeavour

    those who sign on have to sign an agreement not to release any info on face-book etc etc until after the official videos have been posted - which are a year after they happened

    so it is an image that is carefully created for your entertainment

    After the news that I had sold my boat I got quite a few offers from people who wanted me to borrow their boats or guide them around scotland while I made my films.

    I always thank them for their kind offers and then explain what is involved in making the films

    the early starts, the hanging around places waiting for the sun to come out in the right place - the always sailing at sunrise and sunset - the getting so close to the edge that I frequently clonk the bottom/rocks - almost never going to the pub.

    These film makers (for that is what they are rather than just cruisers who film) put a lot of effort into creating the feeling of freedom. Films don't get made just sitting in the cockpit drinking.

    So boobies or not I am full of admiration for the ones who do make a success of it

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    To be honest, yeah I think it's a problem when people exploit themselves in such ways. Not that they're making a buck off selling the experience of being out there doing ... whatever they're out there doing. But when they're not honest with their viewing public that this is a paid, promotional gig, and that the oh-so-spontaneous image down by that lonesome beach was the result of a locations crew doing the scouting, and a few hours of fluffing the scenery and the sleepy alternative goddess' makeup and tousled hair. It's perfectly fine doing that in a movie or TV show, where we already know it's an idealization which only occurs with writers and staff. But when the "product" being marketed is the absence of marketing? The alternative and no-strings lifestyle unencumbered by commercial influence? It's in the same family as plagiarism, as alternative facts.

    One of the Daughter's acquaintances is getting married in June - an acquaintance on FaceBook because of some groups I've led, though my FB settings are such that I've tried to preclude seeing her every thought made pixels. Because she's generated this fantasy, self-documented pixelated cartoon of a life. Where everything is buttercups and maple sugar and aggressively Christian demure smiles, with artfully draped tresses of auburn hair catching the light just-so to hint at the fires beneath. The guy she's marrying, poor sod, is a wondrous and fitting complement to her manufactured wonderfulness. They made a photo-essay of their engagement last Fall, in which the guy built a temporary cabin under flaming Autumn maples, where he served a hand-crafted meal with silver candlesticks, and as the light faded he pulled out the ring. With the setting sun catching its brilliance just so as he placed it on her finger. I don't want to know how long it took to create the "surprise" photo-book, or how many takes were discarded before a photo-edited smile and ring were pronounced "perfect" and "spontaneous."

    This isn't life. This is a form of narcissism that mistakes the world for a backdrop and a camera tripod for a friend. It's a pernicious and real-life example of the kind of curated-experience-of-my-awesomeness that these blogs somehow lead one to believe ought to be real. God help her if my acquaintance ever has an argument with the dude, or discovers him watching porn or something. God help her now that she's 10 years older than when she began this curated perfect life, and in another 10 she won't be as perfectly flawlessly full of wonderfulness anymore.

    I don't think the artful lies of commercially-sponsored alternative lifestyles did her any favours. It fanned into flames a personality disorder that would probably have stayed mostly dormant otherwise, but which is a growing embarrassment now of which she's not really able to become aware.
    Tom, this is so true. I'm currently witnessing a marriage collapse that seems to have been based on believing these lies. Everything for external consumption by friends, family, facebook, Instagram MUST be perfect. A narcissistic personality has bloomed into a 'toxic narcissist', trying to control every breath, thought, inferred action of his spouse, and further can't see that this image of perfection is the problem, not every-one around him. He even denies that his children, ever get a single illness, a bruise, a moment when they are not obeying him to the letter, directly in contrast to reality. In fact his entire self-image seems to repel reality. A great deal has come to light recently of the underpinnings, abuse, sadness, fear, the secrets from family, embarrassments that this fostered. It is truly a dark time right now as the situation is dragged into the light.
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    My thought are : Its cool they are smart entrepreneurs capitalizing on a "Lifestyle" Brand ™ good for them. I read a lot of blogs and youtube "lifestyle" brands. They are doing what they love and making a buck of of it. I've watched some of my Youtube vloggers become stars and earn some VERY LARGE Youtube ad revenue.

    What I have conflicts with is the major corporations trying to play off this meme. Like the recent failed Pepsi protest ad.

    This Volvo ad has me in a bit of turmoil. I absolutely love the Josh Brolin rendition of Whitman's "Song of the open Road" but it goes uncredited and makes it seem like it was written by the scruffy angst riddled character in the ad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    To be honest, yeah I think it's a problem when people exploit themselves in such ways. Not that they're making a buck off selling the experience of being out there doing ... whatever they're out there doing. But when they're not honest with their viewing public that this is a paid, promotional gig, and that the oh-so-spontaneous image down by that lonesome beach was the result of a locations crew doing the scouting, and a few hours of fluffing the scenery and the sleepy alternative goddess' makeup and tousled hair. It's perfectly fine doing that in a movie or TV show, where we already know it's an idealization which only occurs with writers and staff. But when the "product" being marketed is the absence of marketing? The alternative and no-strings lifestyle unencumbered by commercial influence? It's in the same family as plagiarism, as alternative facts.

    One of the Daughter's acquaintances is getting married in June - an acquaintance on FaceBook because of some groups I've led, though my FB settings are such that I've tried to preclude seeing her every thought made pixels. Because she's generated this fantasy, self-documented pixelated cartoon of a life. Where everything is buttercups and maple sugar and aggressively Christian demure smiles, with artfully draped tresses of auburn hair catching the light just-so to hint at the fires beneath. The guy she's marrying, poor sod, is a wondrous and fitting complement to her manufactured wonderfulness. They made a photo-essay of their engagement last Fall, in which the guy built a temporary cabin under flaming Autumn maples, where he served a hand-crafted meal with silver candlesticks, and as the light faded he pulled out the ring. With the setting sun catching its brilliance just so as he placed it on her finger. I don't want to know how long it took to create the "surprise" photo-book, or how many takes were discarded before a photo-edited smile and ring were pronounced "perfect" and "spontaneous."

    This isn't life. This is a form of narcissism that mistakes the world for a backdrop and a camera tripod for a friend. It's a pernicious and real-life example of the kind of curated-experience-of-my-awesomeness that these blogs somehow lead one to believe ought to be real. God help her if my acquaintance ever has an argument with the dude, or discovers him watching porn or something. God help her now that she's 10 years older than when she began this curated perfect life, and in another 10 she won't be as perfectly flawlessly full of wonderfulness anymore.

    I don't think the artful lies of commercially-sponsored alternative lifestyles did her any favours. It fanned into flames a personality disorder that would probably have stayed mostly dormant otherwise, but which is a growing embarrassment now of which she's not really able to become aware.
    Some truly apt prose in there Tom.

    Does anyone remember "Survivor Man" That crazy Canadian brought no crew, no scout, would have to hike out to set the camera and then hike back to get the shot of him hiking up to the camera. He made huge mistakes, almost killed himself a dozen times and it was raw and fairly little editing. I liked that show.
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    Ignoring the nuances of modern technology, these people are following up on a literary tradition that dates back to Homer. Having an an adventure, then telling stories about it for a living, was how Mark Twain, Joshua Slocum, Joseph Conrad, Richard Henry Dana, and John Steinbeck made a living, to mention a few. I did it myself for several decades, and have no regrets, only great memories.

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    I agree Dan, there are some brilliant sailing narratives told on video out there.....

    however, those people you list were travellers first - they told you about the places they went to - they were curious about the world.

    There is some really creative video making out there



    however, the money to be made is from totty and soap opera as with our La Vag and Delos.

    If you look at the comments on youtube - now carefully edited to keep the pervy comments to a minimum - they are all about people wishing that the la vag couple will get married or buy a dog.

    If you watch the films, they make it is hard to know where in the world they are - all we know is that it has nice clear warm water and sandy beaches where one can wear a bikini and visit a bar/supermarket/customs office

    Dylan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    My thought are : Its cool they are smart entrepreneurs capitalizing on a "Lifestyle" Brand ™ good for them. I read a lot of blogs and youtube "lifestyle" brands. They are doing what they love and making a buck of of it. I've watched some of my Youtube vloggers become stars and earn some VERY LARGE Youtube ad revenue.

    What I have conflicts with is the major corporations trying to play off this meme.
    Why conflicts? That's the desired endgame for many of them. Just like with fashion, beer, or most any other company. It's hard making a great product. It's really hard being a small company and making a great product.

    as for following in the footsteps of Conrad? Not just no, hell no. That man worked, and observed. This is dilettantism. Which is fine in it's own way.

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    I don't think this has been posted. Saw a recent article in The New Yorker about a couple who've made a success of van cruising by signing up sponsors, etc.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...media-movement



    The market for this sort of vicarious adventure thing is probably, as Thoreau wrote, “The mass of men (who) lead lives of quiet desperation.”

    After publishing a couple books on my outdoor adventures, I got an offer to hike and ski with a video camera mounted on a helmet or on top of my pack. They even sent me a contract, which I tore up and burned in a campfire. It seemed like an invasion of my personal privacy and sense of self, and a violation of my feelings for wild places. The idea of an audience looking over my shoulder really creeped me out.
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    Joe used some interesting words above.

    He calls them "his" youtube bloggers . I think that people identify very closely with the bloggers they follow - in a way they never can do with film or TV show people. They also get answers to their questions on the films.

    He also said that they are making money from doing what they love.... and that is true in many cases.... but I think that there is more artifice in the films and narratives than appears on the surface.

    Any $9,000 a week operation is a serious affair and has moved on from people doing what they love. As I have said, I am sure that the experience of sailing around the world is being seriously compromised by the need to make a film a week, edit it, upload it, deal with all those questions etc etc.

    I have been fascinated by watching the way that this market has developed.

    I am a 61 year old former BBC film maker.... I admire the skills these people bring to the genre

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    Speaking of hippies I dont want to start a 4/20 thread but.....


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