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    Default another Mass murder behind bars...

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/us/van...est/index.html

    Angelo Colon-Ortiz, 31, was arrested late Friday and faces charges of aggravated assault and assault with intent to rape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/us/van...est/index.html

    Angelo Colon-Ortiz, 31, was arrested late Friday and faces charges of aggravated assault and assault with intent to rape.

    I'm sure the word you're looking for is murderer, and why do you say "mass"?
    Somewhere between Murder and Suicide, there is a place called Merseyside.

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    Maybe he was severely over weight........
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    Quote Originally Posted by isla View Post
    I'm sure the word you're looking for is murderer, and why do you say "mass"?
    Massachusetts
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    Maybe he was severely over weight........
    Or maybe he murdered somebody in a Catholic church
    Somewhere between Murder and Suicide, there is a place called Merseyside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Massachusetts
    I did read the article (honest) but never paid attention to the location of the crime. Sorry.

    So I get to be a spelling nazi and an idiot all in one post
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    Somewhere between Murder and Suicide, there is a place called Merseyside.

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    Y'see, Noisey? You spew so much crap on a regular basis that even when you post a legitimate item ( and I hope the bastard rots in Hell) you get jumped on. A bit of attention to grammar and punctuation (Another Mass. murderer behind bars...) (I'd have chosen "arrested" vice "behind bars", but that's just me) and this whole thread would have taken a different slant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Massachusetts
    That would be MA. I think the Postal service has limited abbreviations to two letters.

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    I'm glad they caught him.

    FWIW, Massachusetts has the 4th lowest homicide rate in the US, about 1.6 / 100,000. The worst states are Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and South Carolina, with rates between 5X and 7X that of Massachusetts. CDC stats here.
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    Communication - it's a learned skill, not a birthright. When someone refuses to take the time to learn, I refuse to take the time necessary to decipher their gibberish. And - as I've suggested before - I strongly suspect that poor language skills either lead to, or reflect, poor cognitive skills.
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    ^
    You mean to say this thread is NOT about a mass murder in prison?
    What is the least often heard sentence in the English language? That would be: “Say, isn’t that the banjo player’s Porsche parked outside?”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
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    You mean to say this thread is NOT about a mass murder in prison?
    I thought it was about another murder in Massachusetts out in the alley behind some taverns.
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    The FBI defines a mass murderer as one who has killed four people at least. This is just one killing apparently and doesn't fit the definition.

    In a way, immaterial, a murder is a murder and the individual should pay for the crime, if convicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    I'm glad they caught him.

    FWIW, Massachusetts has the 4th lowest homicide rate in the US, about 1.6 / 100,000. The worst states are Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and South Carolina, with rates between 5X and 7X that of Massachusetts. CDC stats here.

    Oh really....

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murd...tates_by_state



    And to what do you attribute this phenomena?
    Guns? Not very likely as some states with very lax gun laws rank pretty low. Utah for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Oh really....

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murd...tates_by_state



    And to what do you attribute this phenomena?
    Guns? Not very likely as some states with very lax gun laws rank pretty low. Utah for instance.
    What are you trying to say? Despite being 4 years older than those CDC stats - your Wiki seems, at first glance, to tell a very similar story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Those are 2010 numbers. The CDC site has the figures from 2014. The absolute numbers are small enough that it only takes a little - one serious dispute between rival gangs, one particularly industrious mass murderer - to change state ranking considerably in any one year.

    That site doesn't allow you to sort by various things, but still for 2010, the highest states were LA, MD, MI, NV, MS, NM, 9.6 to 5.7 / 100K. Massachusetts had a bad year in 2010, 3.2 / 100K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    What are you trying to say? Despite being 4 years older than those CDC stats - your Wike seems, at first glance, to tell a very similar story.
    5 to 7 times the rate? Not quite.
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    Again, my numbers were from 2014. Massachusetts had a homicide rate of 1.6/100K.

    #1, Louisiana had a rate of 11.7/100K, 7.3X MA.
    #5, South Carolina had a rate of 7.6/100K, 4.8X MA.

    For 2010, the worst states has a homicide rate about 3X that of Massachusetts .

    For the past 20 years, MS has mostly had a murder rate between 2 and 3 per 100K (source), around half the US average, as a rough approximation (source).
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    Further proof that the old Confederacy is a hotbed of bad behavior

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    Once again I see.........

    More guns=less gun deaths
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    Once again I see......... More guns=less gun deaths
    No. Actually, the reverse is true if you figure it by state.



    However, this is all firearms deaths, including accidents and suicides. If you look only at firearms homicides, there's no correlation either way. One way or another, more guns=fewer gun deaths is completely false.

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    I think you miss Noyes point, the guys name is Angelo Ortiz...get it...Hispanic.

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    #20: wrong, of course. Thank you, Keith.

    Parse this equation, though: 0 guns = 0 gun deaths. TA DA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Again, my numbers were from 2014. Massachusetts had a homicide rate of 1.6/100K.

    #1, Louisiana had a rate of 11.7/100K, 7.3X MA.
    #5, South Carolina had a rate of 7.6/100K, 4.8X MA.

    For 2010, the worst states has a homicide rate about 3X that of Massachusetts .

    For the past 20 years, MS has mostly had a murder rate between 2 and 3 per 100K (source), around half the US average, as a rough approximation (source).
    OK, so to what do you attribute this disparagy? Do you think it is solely access to firearms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    OK, so to what do you attribute this disparagy? Do you think it is solely access to firearms?
    I suspect it's a number of factors: education, culture, history, gun access, and I suspect it can't be boiled down to a simple answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    OK, so to what do you attribute this disparagy? Do you think it is solely access to firearms?
    Not at all (although obviously you can't shoot somebody if you don't have a gun). There's no correlation between firearms homicides and overall rate of gun ownership, at least not when you divide it up by state. Lots of factors, I suspect - although in this case that's just a fancy way of saying 'I don't know'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Communication - it's a learned skill, not a birthright. When someone refuses to take the time to learn, I refuse to take the time necessary to decipher their gibberish. And - as I've suggested before - I strongly suspect that poor language skills either lead to, or reflect, poor cognitive skills.
    so you must not be a fan of the moving and insightful writings of Sojourner Truth...

    more and more I get the feeling belittling and making fun of people who do not follow rigid Leftist Theology makes them feel big.

    (for those who didn't remember the old abbreviation for Massachusetts was Mass)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    #20: wrong, of course. Thank you, Keith.

    Parse this equation, though: 0 guns = 0 gun deaths. TA DA!
    disarm the police and military? no guns then, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    I think you miss Noyes point, the guys name is Angelo Ortiz...get it...Hispanic.
    ? what does this have to do with anything?... prosecutors have "contacted Federal immigration officials in an attempt to determine Ortiz immigration status" how does that affect the outcome of this event for Ms Marcotte?

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