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    Default Re: Do you think the Korean DMZ will be taken down?

    Digging up your old posts today, Geng?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birlinn View Post
    Digging up your old posts today, Geng?
    When there is new information on a subject instead of starting a new thread I post on the original thread.
    This way people can see the complete conversation.

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    So, since there IS NO new news out of FOX, you need to troll? Right geng?

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    Default Re: Do you think the Korean DMZ will be taken down?

    From the cited article, a proper assessment:

    But the insurmountable obstacle remains - the North's nuclear weapons. The US maintains it will never allow an agreement to formally end the Korean war, nor will it lift economic sanctions imposed upon the North while the Kim regime poses a nuclear threat.
    So yes, applaud these images and the progress that they represent, but it's worth keeping in mind just how very far this potential peace process has to go.

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    So many posts that he makes himself look stupid and he dredges them up again. Psychotic.
    The best statement I've seen from this latest carnage came from a student who lived through it -

    "My generation will not allow this to continue!"

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    Default Re: Do you think the Korean DMZ will be taken down?

    Even time can't fix stupid.

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    Default Re: Do you think the Korean DMZ will be taken down?

    Lets review
    1. Fences have been taken down.
    2. Land mines are being removed
    3. Guard posts have been dismantled
    4. Troops have crossed the DMZ in peace

    I can not post all the supporting material because I have reached the limit for a single post (10,000 Charters max per post)


    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Many said the meeting would never happen but as you can see the meeting is back on.

    This little on/off and back on again shows that POTUS is calling the shots.

    Now lets see what agreement is reached with NK before we condemn POTUS.

    Title: Trump says Singapore summit with Kim is back on
    President Donald Trump said Friday he will meet North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on June 12 in Singapore, a summit he previously canceled in a letter.
    Trump received a top-level visitor from North Korea on Friday who came bearing a letter from the country's dictator Kim Jong Un as the two sides work toward a meeting between the two world leaders.
    "The relationships are building and that's a very positive thing," he said after the Oval Office meeting with Kim's envoy, Kim Yong Chol, a former spy chief and currently the country's top nuclear negotiator. It's the highest-level meeting between a US president and a North Korean official since 2000.
    Link: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/01/polit...ter/index.html

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Some good News.

    Title: North Korea: satellite images show dismantling of missile test facilities
    North Korea has taken the first steps towards honouring its commitment to nuclear disarmament by starting to dismantle its main missile-engine test site, according to an analysis of satellite images.
    Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ilities-report

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    If this happens it will be good news.

    Title: South Korean leader calls for train route to North Korea by end of year
    The South Korean president has called for the creation of road and rail links between his country and North Korea by the end of the year.
    Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...th-end-of-year

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    More good news, South Korea is looking into removing some of its fence along the DMZ.

    Title: Fewer barbs across Korean border as South scales back fence
    South Korea appears likely to scale back its barbed wire fencing along the border with North Korea, one of the most militarised frontiers in the world.
    The military will inspect some 300km (186 miles) of barbed wire along the demilitarised zone, according to an unnamed military official quoted by Yonhap news. The barrier has been a potent symbol of division since the end of the 1950-53 Korean war. Now, more than half of the fencing in coastal and riverside areas might be removed.
    Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...les-back-fence

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Good News, things keep moving forward.

    Title: North Korea's Kim Jong-un agrees to shut missile site
    North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has agreed to shut one of the country's main missile testing and launch sites.
    He signed a pledge to permanently close the Tongchang-ri facility, after talks in Pyongyang with his South Korean counterpart Moon Jae-in.
    Both leaders also "agreed on a way to achieve denuclearisation" on the Korean peninsula, Mr Moon said.
    Mr Kim said he hoped to "visit Seoul in the near future" - he would be the first North Korean leader to do so.
    China has welcomed the outcome of the inter-Korean summit, saying both sides had found "new and important common ground".
    Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45569924
    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Good News, the DMZ is starting to be disarmed.
    Maybe they will turn it into a community garden or a park in a few years.

    Title: (Moon-Kim summit) No-fly zone agreed over heavily guarded border
    The militaries of the two Koreas today agreed to establish a no-fly zone in the heavily fortified Demilitarized Zone across the border with North Korea, pledging to prevent cross-border hostilities.
    In a document signed by South Korea’s Defense Minister Song Young Moo and his North Korean counterpart No Kwang Chol, both sides also pledged to establish a stretch of "buffer zone” inside the DMZ and waters near the Northern Limit Line, a de facto maritime border in the West Sea.
    Inside these restricted areas, the militaries of the two Koreas will be prohibited from conducting artillery drills and massive field exercises, the agreement said. The measure will take effect on November 1.
    "Following the agreement, the DMZ and NLL region will turn into an area of peace, where not a single sound of artillery fire will be heard,” South Korea’s Ministry of National Defense said in a statement.
    The two Koreas also agreed on a series of measures to "practically disarm” the DMZ and the joint security area controlled by the two Koreas and the US-led United Nations Command. They agreed to pull back 11 guard posts from the DMZ and to remove land mines near the Joint Security Area.
    Link: http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaki...d=114286&sid=6

    Title: U.S. praises North Korea's offer to shutter missile site and extends invitation for more high-level diplomatic talks
    They also signed a 55-page joint military agreement designed to ease tensions on the border, including creating a border buffer zone, removing landmines from the demilitarized zone, creating a no-fly zone along the DMZ and shutting down 11 guard posts.
    Link: http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-n...919-story.html

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    More good news

    Title: North Korea, South Korea begin removing thousands of landmines in fortified border amid resumed diplomacy
    Troops from North and South Korea have started removing some of the more than 800,000 landmines buried along the border between the countries amid the two nations’ resumed relations, officials said Monday.
    South Korean army engineers and demining equipment were deployed Monday to the heavily fortified Joint Security Area in the village of Panmunjom and to the other frontline area called “Arrow Head Hill,” where hundreds of soldiers were killed during the Korean War. Panmunjom is one of the most famous sites in the Demilitarized Zone and is where the armistice was signed in 1953 to end the Korean War.
    The move was agreed upon during a meeting last month in Pyongyang by the leaders of the two Koreas, Kim Jong Un in the North and Moon Jae-in in the South. It also comes as U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is set to visit North Korea’s capital this month to try to set up a second summit between Kim and President Trump.
    Link: https://www.foxnews.com/world/north-...umed-diplomacy

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Things keep moving forward.

    Title: North Korea intends to abolish all nuclear weapons, South says
    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un intends to abolish all nuclear weapons, materials and facilities to achieve “complete” denuclearization, South Korean President Moon Jae-in, who held his third summit with Kim last month, said on Friday.
    Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKCN1MM0NA
    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    More good news.

    Title: Guns and guards to be removed from Korean 'truce village' of Panmunjom
    The two Koreas and the US-led United Nations Command have agreed to demilitarise a section of the heavily fortified border dividing the peninsula by Thursday this week, as a diplomatic thaw gathers pace.
    Seoul’s defence ministry said in a statement that, following trilateral talks on Monday, agreement had been reached to withdraw firearms and guard posts from the Joint Security Area (JSA), also known as the truce village of Panmunjom.
    Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-of-panmunjom

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    More good news.

    Title: North and South Korea agree to scrap 22 guard posts at border next month
    SEOUL (Reuters) - North and South Korea agreed on Friday to “completely destroy” by next month 22 guard posts near their heavily fortified border, the latest advance in talks in the neighbors’ effort to defuse military tension, Seoul’s defense ministry said.
    It follows a military pact at a summit last month in the North Korean capital that called for a halt to “all hostile acts,” a no-fly zone near the border and the gradual removal of guard posts, firearms and landmines from the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) separating the two.
    As an initial step, the neighbors agreed to demolish 11 guard posts within 1 km (0.6 mile) of each side of the border and withdraw equipment and personnel stationed there by the end of November, the ministry said.
    Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKCN1N0082

    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    More good news.

    Title: North and South Korea soldiers cross DMZ in peace
    North and South Korean soldiers have made several friendly crossings into each other's territory for the first time since the countries were divided.
    Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46548524

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    Default Re: Do you think the Korean DMZ will be taken down?

    Yawn.

    North Korea is still a dictatorship who is building more nuclear weapons.

    Post 286 quoting your article makes it clear: how much longer this process has to go.

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    It is pretty clear that, like in almost all ither things, the president got played.

    The latest from the AP:

    By KIM TONG-HYUNG
    December 20, 2018 7:48 am

    SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Thursday it will never unilaterally give up its nuclear weapons unless the United States first removes what Pyongyang called a nuclear threat. The surprisingly blunt statement jars with Seoul’s rosier presentation of the North Korean position and could rattle the fragile trilateral diplomacy to defuse a nuclear crisis that last year had many fearing war.



    The latest from North Korea comes as the United States and North Korea struggle over the sequencing of the denuclearization that Washington wants and the removal of international sanctions desired by Pyongyang. The statement carried by the North’s official Korean Central News Agency also raises credibility problems for the liberal South Korean government, which has continuously claimed that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is genuinely interested in negotiating away his nuclear weapons as Seoul tries to sustain a positive atmosphere for dialogue.
    The North’s comments may also be seen as proof of what outside skeptics have long said: that Kim will never voluntarily relinquish an arsenal he sees as a stronger guarantee of survival than whatever security assurances the United States might provide. The statement suggests North Korea will eventually demand the United States withdraw or significantly reduce the 28,500 American troops stationed in South Korea, a major sticking point in any disarmament deal.
    Kim and President Donald Trump met June 12 in Singapore where they agreed on a vague goal for the “complete denuclearization” of the Korean Peninsula without describing when and how it would occur. The leaders are trying to arrange another meeting for early next year.
    But North Korea for decades has been pushing a concept of denuclearization that bears no resemblance to the American definition, with Pyongyang vowing to pursue nuclear development until the United States removes its troops and the nuclear umbrella defending South Korea and Japan. In Thursday’s statement, the North made clear it’s sticking to its traditional stance on denuclearization. It accused Washington of twisting what had been agreed on in Singapore and driving post-summit talks into an impasse.
    “The United States must now recognize the accurate meaning of the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, and especially, must study geography,” the statement said.


    “When we talk about the Korean Peninsula, it includes the territory of our republic and also the entire region of (South Korea) where the United States has placed its invasive force, including nuclear weapons. When we talk about the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, it means the removal of all sources of nuclear threat, not only from the South and North but also from areas neighboring the Korean Peninsula,” the statement said.
    The United States removed its tactical nuclear weapons from South Korea in the 1990s. Washington and Seoul did not immediately respond to the North Korean statement.
    North Korea’s reiteration of its long-standing position on denuclearization could prove to be a major setback for diplomacy, which was revived early this year following a series of provocative nuclear and missile tests that left Kim and Trump spending most of 2017 exchanging personal insults and war threats. The statement could jeopardize a second Trump-Kim summit as the United States may have difficulty negotiating further if the North ties the future of its nukes to the U.S. military presence in the South, analysts said.
    South Korean President Moon Jae-in, who met Kim three times this year and lobbied hard for the Trump-Kim meeting, has said Kim wasn’t demanding the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the Korean Peninsula as a precondition for abandoning his nuclear weapons. But Kim has never made such comments in public.
    “The blunt statement could be an indicator that the North has no intentions to return to the negotiation table anytime soon,” said Shin Beomchul, a senior analyst at Seoul’s Asan Institute for Policy Studies. “It’s clear that the North intends to keep its nukes and turn the diplomatic process into a bilateral arms reduction negotiation with the United States, rather than a process where it unilaterally surrenders its program.”


    Yang Moo-jin, a professor at Seoul’s University of North Korean Studies, said it’s unlikely that the North would push things too far and allow the momentum for dialogue to collapse. Pyongyang has been strengthening its demands for the removal of sanctions and its latest statement is another attempt to win concessions from Washington, Yang said.
    “Pyongyang is sending a message to Washington that confrontation and dialogue cannot coexist,” Yang said.
    The nuclear negotiations between Washington and Pyongyang have stalled since the Trump-Kim meeting. The United States wants North Korea to provide a detailed account of nuclear and missile facilities that would be inspected and dismantled under a potential deal, while the North is insisting that sanctions be lifted first.
    Since engaging in diplomacy, North Korea has unilaterally dismantled its nuclear testing ground and parts of a missile engine test facility and suspended nuclear and long-range missile tests. However, none of those moves were verified by outsiders, and most experts say they fall short as material steps toward denuclearization. In the third meeting between Kim and Moon in September, the North also said it would dismantle its main nuclear facility in Nyongbyon if the United States takes “corresponding measures,” which the state media later specified as sanctions relief.
    Kim declared his nuclear force was complete after the torrent of weapons tests in 2017, including the detonation of a purported thermonuclear weapon and three test-flights of intercontinental ballistic missiles potentially capable of reaching the U.S. mainland. Several reports from private analysts in recent weeks have accused North Korea of continuing nuclear and missile development, citing details from commercial satellite imagery.


    “If we unilaterally give up our nuclear weapons without any security assurance despite being first on the U.S. list of targets for pre-emptive nuclear strikes, that wouldn’t be denuclearization — it would rather be a creation of a defenseless state where the balance in nuclear strategic strength is destroyed and the crisis of a nuclear war is brought forth,” the KCNA said.
    “The corresponding measures we have asked the United States to take aren’t difficult for the United States to commit to and carry out. We are just asking the United States to put an end to its hostile policies (on North Korea) and remove the unjust sanctions, things it can do even without a snap of a finger.”
    The North Korean statement came a day after Stephen Biegun, the Trump administration’s special envoy on North Korea, told reporters in South Korea that Washington was reviewing easing travel restrictions on North Korea to facilitate humanitarian shipments to help resolve the impasse in nuclear negotiations.
    During his four-day visit, Biegun plans to discuss with South Korean officials the allies’ policies on North Korea, including the enforcement of sanctions. The meetings are likely to include conversations about a groundbreaking ceremony the Koreas plan to hold at the border village of Panmunjom next week for an aspirational project to reconnect their roads and railways.


    The North has yet to respond to Biegun’s comments.






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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    I can not post all the supporting material because I have reached the limit for a single post (10,000 Charters max per post)
    thank god for small miracles <yawn>
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    Do you think genglandoh will begin thinking for himself next year?

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    Interesting news story

    Title: Kim Jong-un ON BRINK as public TURNS AGAINST North Korea leader - ‘Not buying it!
    NORTH Korean people are increasingly turning against despot leader Kim Jong Un following a desperate attempt by the reclusive nation’s government to venerate the leader that has left its people even more cynical of him.
    Link: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...anda-Pyongyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Interesting news story

    Title: Kim Jong-un ON BRINK as public TURNS AGAINST North Korea leader - ‘Not buying it!
    NORTH Korean people are increasingly turning against despot leader Kim Jong Un following a desperate attempt by the reclusive nation’s government to venerate the leader that has left its people even more cynical of him.
    Link: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...anda-Pyongyang
    Do you consider that good news or bad news? I got the impression that Kim is a personal hero of yours.
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    News Flash! Dictator not really loved by one and all.
    Nosce te ipsum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    News Flash! Dictator not really loved by one and all.
    Did you mean to post this on a Trump thread?

    :-)
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    ^ Somewhere in this there is a joke about going both ways.
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    More good news

    Title: First train in a decade departs South Korea for North Korea
    A South Korean train rolled into North Korea for the first time in a decade on Friday as the countries began joint surveys on northern railway sections they hope someday to connect with the South.
    Link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...a-north-korea/

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    More good news.
    I wonder if they will get the full 500,000.

    Title: 500,000 people to form 'human chain' along DMZ
    Some 500,000 people will create a "human chain" along the 500-kilometer Demilitarized Zone bisecting South and North Korea in April to mark the first anniversary of an inter-Korean summit deal, a civic organization said Monday.
    During the summit on April 27 last year at the truce village of Panmunjom, South Korean President Moon Jae-in and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un agreed to halt "all hostile acts" against each other, explore ways to enhance cross-border exchanges and pursue the complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
    Link: https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nat...56_262799.html

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    Despite the idiocy coming from the White House, Moon Jae In is doing good and progressive work.
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    North Korea rebuilding long-range rocket site, photos show - NBC News

    https://apple.news/AJ1P-oQF8QhO-BK4NjHZrmA


    Did anyone ever doubt it? But now President Trump has emptied his quiver. He insulted Kim, then loved him up. And as reward to Kim for no concessions whatsoever, Trump has cancelled large-scale military exercises with South Korea. What possible moves does Trump have left? He’s completely failed AND boxed himself in.

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    Trump could offer cheap soy beans, in exchange for a halt to the rockets- NK does rather need food at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    What possible moves does Trump have left?
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    So much winning.



    for Kim. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    North Korea rebuilding long-range rocket site, photos show - NBC News

    https://apple.news/AJ1P-oQF8QhO-BK4NjHZrmA


    Did anyone ever doubt it? But now President Trump has emptied his quiver. He insulted Kim, then loved him up. And as reward to Kim for no concessions whatsoever, Trump has cancelled large-scale military exercises with South Korea. What possible moves does Trump have left? He’s completely failed AND boxed himself in.
    It’s the art of the deal,dontcha know.

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