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    Investing in fear

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...june/99346520/

    The specifics of the prototype project and the bidding process are detailed in two, nearly identical 132-page Requests for Proposals, posted Friday night to the Federal Business Opportunities website.

    What kind of wall?

    Each prototype will be 30 feet long and built in San Diego, according to the requests for proposals.

    Beyond that, bidding contractors have much latitude in what kind of wall they propose?
    DHS report: Wall will cost $21.6B

    Under the new timeline established in the documents, interested bidders will have two weeks to create and submit a design concept of what the border-wall prototype will look like, with two design options for companies.

    One will be exclusively for "reinforced solid concrete" prototypes, while the second for "other" materials is more vague and does not specify the type of materials that can be used in the design.

    Other requirements include:

    A "physically imposing" height of no less than 18 feet but preferably 30 feet tall.
    Anti-climbing mechanisms, either by ladder or other tools like hooks that humans may be able to get across.
    Prevent tunneling 6 feet below ground.
    For breaches to the wall (using building or cutting tools, or torches) to take at least one hour in concrete designs, and 30 minutes in the "other" designs.
    Accommodate surface draining, a particularly sensitive issue in the uneven, Arizona desert that can easily flood with heavy rains.
    Be able to accommodate "pedestrian and automated mechanized vehicle sliding gates."

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    No land mines?
    That would sure simplify matters.

    Cyanide mines baited with Trump pinatas...

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    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/canadians-satirical-border-solution-designed-to-drive-trump-up-wall/

    Those whaky Canadian kids, with their healthcare and education, just don't take things seriously!
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    Courtesy of Mr. Bauer on the political cartoons thread:

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    Details:

    The two documents also detail a series of basic requirements for the wall prototype designs. Noticeably, they require that the north side of the wall, the one facing the United States, be "aesthetically pleasing in color, anti-climb texture, etc., to be consistent with general surrounding environment." They make no mention of aesthetics on the south-facing side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Details:

    The two documents also detail a series of basic requirements for the wall prototype designs. Noticeably, they require that the north side of the wall, the one facing the United States, be "aesthetically pleasing in color, anti-climb texture, etc., to be consistent with general surrounding environment." They make no mention of aesthetics on the south-facing side.
    Of course they don't. Remember: "America first".
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    Hard to believe that this clown is actually going ahead with it.
    Doesn't he know that 90% of the illegals from Mexico obtain a visa, fly in and just stay.

    Money could be better spent elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodbasil View Post
    Hard to believe that this clown is actually going ahead with it.
    Doesn't he know that 90% of the illegals from Mexico obtain a visa, fly in and just stay.

    Money could be better spent elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodbasil View Post
    Hard to believe that this clown is actually going ahead with it.
    Doesn't he know that 90% of the illegals from Mexico obtain a visa, fly in and just stay.

    Money could be better spent elsewhere.
    Hard to believe Congress hasn't got its chit together to neuter the idiot.

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    If my math is right: About $11 million per mile, or a bit over $2,000.00 per foot. Multiply by a factor of 1.5 because it is a government project..... that money could feed a lot of people or provide healthcare to a lot of.......
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    My question is, just how much of that money will end up in Trump's pockets?
    Rattling the teacups.

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    The reds really got suckered on this wall, eh?
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    I red they were hiring lots of lawyers for the seizing of border lands by eminent domain.
    That's not going to play well with the yahoo's
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    For kicks and giggles look at the price of this wall compared to other agencies.

    NASA $19.5 Billion
    Donald's stupid wall $21 Billion

    Department of State $26 Billion
    Donald's stupid wall $21 Billion

    Coast Guard $10 Billion
    Donald's stupid wall $21 Billion
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    Wait until the Reds find out that the real purpose of the wall is to keep gringos on the American side of the wall, where they can be drafted to work in the fields. Somebody has to dig the potatoes and pick the watermelons all day in the hot sun. No doubt they can learn the art of being a tomatero for eight dollars an hour.

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    Taxpayers should hire an actor to use Really Fancy Equipment to prove his hands are the biggest ever.

    And we should put that on a Big Pretty Scroll with golden eagles on it.

    And put it in the base of a Really Tall obelisk with "Trump Has The Biggest Hands" carved in it.

    Maybe he would stop over-compensating with his Stupid Wall.

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    Often when an insecure public official wants to build something, anything, it is referred to as an erection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Bay View Post
    I red they were hiring lots of lawyers for the seizing of border lands by eminent domain.
    That's not going to play well with the yahoo's
    I wonder what they're going to do with the border that runs down the middle of the river? Mexico wont allow it to be built on their side, I cant imagine Americans effectively giving up their half of the river by building it on the USA side, thats going to be a puzzlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    Often when an insecure public official wants to build something, anything, it is referred to as an erection.
    If the of quoted correlation between the size of hands and another peculiarly masculine body part is true, then it would be a pretty low erection.

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    All autocrats have an edifice building complex.

    If they were serious, they would simply lay a mile wide mine field across the border. Or with the wall with Claymore mines.
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    "THE WALL" is not really a wall, it is ego. Small minded ego. Small minded simple sounding solutions to a problem that really isn't. But then maybe that accords with his voters minds as well.
    Whatever else Donald is or isn't, he certainly knows his market. Petty and vindictive as he is, he knew his market way better than either of the 2 majors and they lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    I wonder what they're going to do with the border that runs down the middle of the river? Mexico wont allow it to be built on their side, I cant imagine Americans effectively giving up their half of the river by building it on the USA side, thats going to be a puzzlement.

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    At least one likely contractor located in the border area has declined an opportunity to bid on the wall.

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    He could make a few million before the project is abandoned.............
    And then in a few years a few more demolishing it.............

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    I see most of the crying are by folks well north of the border.
    And then you're worried about what the Mexican side looks like. Look over the border and you'll notice they don't care what their side has looked like for decades.
    A lot of this could get solved if the gov. of Mexico wasn't so corrupt. If their government actually took care of their people instead of shoving it all in their pockets. Mexico is rich in minerals, oil and great farmland. How is it they are so poor?

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    You're absolutely right about the corruption of the Mexican government and the opportunity for their economic development.

    It's in the American interest to help them become more democratic, more honest, more prosperous. How should we do this? What are President Trump's ideas to advance this? How exactly does the wall help?

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    Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX) “said the Trump administration is gearing up for a fight over taking private land needed to build the president’s border wall — and Texas is likely to be ground zero,” the Texas Observer reports.

    “This week, the Observer was the first to report that some landowners have already received condemnation notices they have vowed to resist. And in the proposed White House budget released Thursday, the Trump administration is asking for funding to hire 20 additional Department of Justice attorneys to pursue condemnations.
    As Warren Zevon so famously said, 'bring lawyers, guns, and money'
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    Ross, this isn't new. We've had how many administrations watching our border implode?
    One mini solution would be to not allow Mexican nationals to own property here. That way they can't 'hide' their money. A LOT of lake front homes here are owned by Mexican nationals. Force those w/ influence to have to live and deal with their own people. Don't allow them to flee w/ the national treasury. At the very least we should have protections from foreign folks from buying prized property such as lake fronts or border ranches.

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    Psssst does anyone know this ?

    Even before Trump, more Mexicans were leaving the U.S. than arriving

    But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.947aa923203a
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    Wow! So a million come and about a million leave.
    To put it in perspective: that's like San Francisco coming and then leaving without any documentation. That's kinda scary...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin2 View Post
    Wow! So a million come and about a million leave.
    To put it in perspective: that's like San Francisco coming and then leaving without any documentation. That's kinda scary...
    You're not very good at math are you ?
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    Just trying to simplify the stupidity of our border situation mi amigo.

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    The ONLY way a wall would work, is if you put people on top of it with rifles, shooting anyone that approaches it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    Psssst does anyone know this ?

    Even before Trump, more Mexicans were leaving the U.S. than arriving



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.947aa923203a
    Joe, you're using facts when what matters are fears. 45 even had to create an office called Victims Of Immigrant Crime Engagement so people can read about crimes done by foreigners. Can't be afraid without catapulting bs into people's lives.
    Trump will waste billions needed to promote the general welfare of the country to cultivate fear.

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