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    [IMc - Trump provides the excuse for more and more overt action but the fact is that our customs and border forces are laden with racist authority freaks. No way for us to get around that reality.]

    Former Greenville Police Chief allegedly detained at JFK airport

    Posted: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:19 pm | Updated: 12:56 am, Sun Mar 19, 2017.
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    Former Greenville Police Chief Hassan Aden said he was unreasonably detained, after allegedly being forced to sit in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection detention center for an hour and a half, which he detailed in a Facebook post earlier this evening.

    “My freedoms were restricted, and I cannot be sure it won’t happen again, and that it won’t happen to my family, my children, the next time we travel abroad,” Aden said in the post.

    Aden was returning from visiting his mother in Paris, when he arrived at John F. Kennedy International Airport. He said this is something he has done numerous times since becoming a U.S. citizen, but this is the first time he has been detained by CBP.

    “On all of my prior trips, I was greeted by the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) officers with a warm smile and the usual, ‘Welcome home sir’,” he said.

    Aden said the officer who stopped him asked if he was traveling alone and then proceeded to escort him to a back room. He told the officers numerous times of his past experience as a police chief, but they continued to hold him saying someone on the watch list was using his name as an alias.

    According to Aden, there were around 25 other foreign nationals who were also stopped by the CBP. However, they were released after a few minutes, while he stayed detained longer than anyone else.

    “I told him as he avoided eye contact how wrong this scenario was that the only US citizen, career US police officer and chief of police out of the group of detainees was the one with the longest unreasonable detention,” Aden said.
    He went on to include in his post that when he tried to take up his complaints with the CBP, they claimed he was not being detained.

    “I was in a room with no access to my mobile phone to communicate with my wife and family about what was happening, my movements were restricted to a chair, and they had my passport, and he had the audacity to tell me I was not being detained,” Aden said.

    After being released, he has continued to reach out to representatives about his experience and plans to continue reaching out to as many people as necessary.

    “This country now feels cold, unwelcoming, and in the beginning stages of a country that is isolating itself from the rest of the world and its own people in an unprecedented fashion,” Aden said.

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    CBP has new, simpler guidelines.



    A few years ago this was a Joke. Of course maybe Trump is a Family Guy fan. Might be, after all he gets his intel briefings from Fox News.
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    I am sure that when he was a police chief he was accused of acting in the same manner.
    Life is complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    I am sure that when he was a police chief he was accused of acting in the same manner.
    Brutal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    I am sure that when he was a police chief he was accused of acting in the same manner.
    And that changes this particular occurrence how? A US citizen was detained trying to enter the country, quite possibly because of his racial and/or religious background.
    If you don't find this disturbing you are already sliding down that slippery slope.
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    'they continued to hold him saying someone on the watch list was using his name as an alias.'

    Golly Barney, let's just take his word for it and every one else's word as they cross the border - said every Lib defense manual...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin2 View Post
    'they continued to hold him saying someone on the watch list was using his name as an alias.'

    Golly Barney, let's just take his word for it and every one else's word as they cross the border - said every Lib defense manual...
    If they admitted that they knew someone was using his name as an alias, and therefore he was OK, why continue to hold him? Duh!
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    [IMc – Of course a foundation’s c.v. of one of theirs will dwell on the nice stuff, but if Aden had a history even remotely like Too Little Time’s disgraceful dish [#3], he’d not even been there. What we have here is an example of Too Little Time taking a page from the Trump book of evasive irresponsible falsehood. Post #5 of course makes the greater point.]

    https://www.policefoundation.org/tea...f-hassan-aden/

    Chief Hassan Aden

    Hassan Aden has over 28 years of law enforcement service and executive leadership experience in law enforcement. He previously served as the Director of Research and Programs at the International Association of Chiefs of Police overseeing a large portfolio of operational programs and research projects aimed at advancing professional police services and promoting enhanced administrative, technical, and operational police practices and policies. Hassan Aden continues to serve on numerous national advisory groups including the National Academies of Science’s Proactive Policing Committee, Department of Justice-sponsored groups, and others.

    Hassan’s police experience includes serving as the Chief of Police with the Greenville (NC) Police Department. He has extensive experience in the administrative, investigative and operational aspects of policing, and he has demonstrable success in working with questions such as crime control policies, community engagement and strategic planning. While Chief of Police at the Greenville Police Department, he and all of the Greenville Police staff were deeply committed to community partnerships aimed at reducing crime and improving the quality of life in the City of Greenville.
    Prior to his appointment as Chief of Police for the Greenville (NC) Police Department, he served in the Alexandria (VA) Police Department for 26 years rising to the rank of deputy chief of police.

    He is a graduate of American University’s Institute for the Study of Public Policy Implementation (ISPPI) from which he earned a Master of Public Administration Certificate in 2007. In December 2009, he graduated from American University’s School of Public Affairs earning a Master of Public Administration (MPA) degree.

    Due to his commitment to the continued professionalization of policing, he is a past Commissioner for the Commission on Accreditation for Law Enforcement Agencies (CALEA) and continues to advise CALEA on issues facing modern policing. He is an active member of the Police Executive Research Forum and serves as a Senior Executive Fellow with the Police Foundation in Washington, DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    If they admitted that they knew someone was using his name as an alias, and therefore he was OK, why continue to hold him? Duh!
    You're reading it as though they knew he was ok but were checking alias'. I read it as they had to verify who he was b/c there were multiple people using his credentials.

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    There is no evidence that anyone was or is using Aden's name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin2 View Post
    You're reading it as though they knew he was ok but were checking alias'. I read it as they had to verify who he was b/c there were multiple people using his credentials.
    From the original FB Post
    He handed my passport off to another CBP officer who was working at one of the desks. The second CBP officer was indeed kind and appreciated the fact that I was a career police officer and tried to be helpful. He explained that my name was used as an alias by someone on some watch list. He stated that he sent my information to another agency to de-conflict and clear me, so that I could gain passage into the United States….my own country!!!
    So he was believed by a CBP officer who was taking action to correct the error, but still they detained him.
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    My apologies. I thought you had posted the whole article so didn't open it.
    I can sort of understand his being upset - namely not being able to contact his wife. But if it were me I'd want everything associated w/ my name cleared immediately which is what they were trying to do.
    I think he's being a tad over the top given the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    And that changes this particular occurrence how? A US citizen was detained trying to enter the country, quite possibly because of his racial and/or religious background.
    If you don't find this disturbing you are already sliding down that slippery slope.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian McColgin View Post
    [IMc – Of course a foundation’s c.v. of one of theirs will dwell on the nice stuff, but if Aden had a history even remotely like Too Little Time’s disgraceful dish [#3], he’d not even been there. What we have here is an example of Too Little Time taking a page from the Trump book of evasive irresponsible falsehood. Post #5 of course makes the greater point.]
    I seen neither of you distinguish between actuations and guilt. No one is happy when they are pulled aside for longer than they want. Was the guy guilty? No. Did it take longer than he wanted to be released? Yes. Was he happy? No. So he complained.

    Sometimes process takes time. Considering the gentleman indicated that others pulled aside were held for less time there might be some merit to thinking that there were special circumstance in his case. Not that he was treated different than anyone who might have had the same special circumstances.
    Life is complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian McColgin View Post
    There is no evidence that anyone was or is using Aden's name.
    Oh I bet there's a Hassan or Aden out there. There's probably a Timothy or McVeigh out there as well.



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_(given_name)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aden_(name)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin2 View Post
    My apologies. I thought you had posted the whole article so didn't open it.
    I can sort of understand his being upset - namely not being able to contact his wife. But if it were me I'd want everything associated w/ my name cleared immediately which is what they were trying to do.
    I think he's being a tad over the top given the circumstances.
    Certainly, so if you had a watch list of a few thousand names including Bob, Smith, John, Betty you'd want to make sure they weren't getting through unchecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin2 View Post
    My apologies. I thought you had posted the whole article so didn't open it.
    I can sort of understand his being upset - namely not being able to contact his wife. But if it were me I'd want everything associated w/ my name cleared immediately which is what they were trying to do.
    I think he's being a tad over the top given the circumstances.
    The behaviour of the agent who took over at shift change puts the behaviour of the incompetent aerosols in uniform into stark relief.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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