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    Default Looking for old canoe plans

    Years ago When I started building cedar strip canoes, I bought up every plan I could afford.

    I have quite a collection, and always looking for more.

    I'm not interested in building from these plans, as I have WAY too many canoes now !
    I just enjoy looking over the plans and comparing them to each other.

    If you are interested in sharing your old plans, let me know.

    I have plans from Bruce Kunz, Bob Brown, David Hazen, Gil Gilpatrick, and Ted Moore

    Thanks !

    Jim

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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    There are a number of canoe plans listed at http://www.wcha.org/canoe-plans/ if you haven't found this already.

    Benson

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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    Thanks Benson
    I do have several from The Adirondack Museum.
    Great list !
    Thanks again !

    Jim
    Keep your paddle wet and your seat dry !

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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    Have you taken a look at The Skin Boats and Bark Canoes of North America by Chapelle and Adney?

    https://archive.org/details/cbarchiv...boatsofnor1877 or http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/50828

    Alan
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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    Adney did a pretty good job of it, and I built this one from a modified version of a blown up photocopied station drawing from the book (no offsets are given). By the time we got it up to size the lines on the paper were almost 1/4" wide, but it took very little tweaking of the forms to get things fair and ready to strip.



    My building partner Norm Sims (co author of "Canoes A Natural History in North America" with Mark Neuzil - a very cool new book for canoe buffs) and I had a contraption that would take the lines off of an existing old canoe in about 30 minutes. It was rather crude, but effective enough to build accurate strippers from. We pulled these lines off of Norm's old Morris. We would lay them out on a piece of brown paper, add a few notes as needed to explain details and could then start cutting out station forms.


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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    Thanks Guys !
    Alan I need to Snatch that book up !

    Hi Todd
    I wonder if your method of taking lines off a hull involved a round flat wood disc and a pencil in the middle ? I have done this a couple of times, with amazing results.

    Enlarging plans from 1/4" squares reminds me of my first stripper. It came from drawings from the May issue of Popular Mechanics, back in 91. Very little fairing required also

    It looked like a challenge to get that Voyageur out of that loft !
    I'm assuming you strip built it. Nice trim and paint !

    Again Thanks !

    Jim
    Keep your paddle wet and your seat dry !

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    Our method was even cruder than that. We took one of the strongbacks and at about 2' intervals we attached crosswise "station forms". They were made from 1x2 s or leftover plywood and had a horizontal base with uprights at one or sometimes both of their outboard ends. Bow and stern got the same, only positioned fore and aft at the ends of the keel line. We would then set the boat on the strongback, and on top of all the stations, and carefully align it to the centerline. We took a bunch of leftover strip chunks about 6"-8" long and sharpened one end to a point. At each station we would hold a few strips up against the station with the point touching the hull and use the staple gun to staple them to the stations. At the end, we would pull the stations off, align them on paper and put dots at the points of the strip chunks. Connect the dots with a batten and pen and you have a drawing of all the stations.



    The fur trade canoe is still up in the loft, post-paint-job. I put it up there to work on by myself using ropes and mainsheet blocks. It was quite a job and would have been easier if I had made the window one more stud space in width, so the boat wouldn't need to be rolled over.This was before my aortic aneurism........ I bought a big hunk of climbing/rescue rope that will reach a big tree in my neighbor's yard and this spring I hope to zip-line it out - which should be either easier if it works, or really entertaining if it doesn't.




    This is a little one I want to build lap plywood if I get the biggy out of the loft so that I have some room to work. No intent to build anything particularly practical, just a nice looking little boat for poking around in sheltered waters. The "Willow Leif".


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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    You mentioned that you already have plans from Ted Moores.

    Bear Mountain Boats offer their study plans catalog for free: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/05...nload.pdf?3170

    Excellent for studying some of the traditional designs as well as some of the more modern hull shapes.
    There are also some kayaks and rowboats included.

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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    Todd , glad you are still with us . Canoe on a Zipline coming to a theater near us soon , lol , wear a hardhat

    Did you build the Oselver canoe ? It looks tippy , very pretty lines .

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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    Not yet, but it's pretty high on the to do list. First I need to read Iain Oughtred's book and find out how to do glued lap. Stability should be pretty similar to a fairly tame sea kayak. Around 30"-31" of beam at the gunwale is about the maximum I care to reach over with a double paddle. Otherwise, they become too much of a knuckle-buster for my taste. I suppose you could always blow it up to maybe 28"-29" at the 4" waterline and go single paddle and kneeling, or a fairly high seat like a marathon C-1, but I think I'd probably stick with kayak-style and the narrower hull. I used to have a couple marathon C-1 boats and they were kind of twitchy for lazy exploring, and my knees aren't what they used to be.

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    Default Re: Looking for old canoe plans

    One book, 3 urls
    W.P. Stephens - Canoe and Boatbuilding for Amateurs 1889 Old enough?
    https://archive.org/details/canoeandboatbui00stepgoog
    https://archive.org/details/canoeboatbuildin00stepiala
    http://dragonflycanoe.com/stephens/ Plates included!

    Some canoes here: https://store.mysticseaport.org/ship...r?limit=30&p=2 I highly recommend the UGO
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