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    Default 15' RoG micro cruiser

    rather nice new design, currently taking part in EC. Uses ballast in a interesting way, both centreboard and water.

    https://www.bedardyachtdesign.com/de...micro-cruiser/




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    setting off on EC


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    on the beach with gougeon canoe


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    Cool and interesting boat!
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    There's a lot to like in that design, but this water ballast system boggles my mind.

    -Dave

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    nice thing is for user it is just

    fill and empty starboard tank

    fill and empty port tank

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    Default Re: 15' RoG micro cruiser

    Looks like a lot of squeezing for not much juice, though maybe it is more efficient than it appears.

    I have questions like, "How fast can you dump a full tank?" "How long to fill an empty?" and "If you are sitting out on either rail utilizing the water ballast, how and when do you duck down to set up for the next tack?"
    Steve

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    Steve, my thinking is to keep things simpler.

    no tank filling in light winds.
    single tank fill on long tack
    both tanks left full on short tack or as winds strengthen.

    key thing is she has 100lbs of ballast at the end of the centreboard. a design with no ballast in the board and only in the tanks would have you in a panic to punp water
    Last edited by keyhavenpotterer; 03-08-2017 at 03:06 AM.

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    My bet is that in practice both tanks will get filled and left that way. But then maybe I am just a lazybones beanbag sailor.
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post
    My bet is that in practice both tanks will get filled and left that way. But then maybe I am just a lazybones beanbag sailor.
    My guess is that you are right most of the time. The hull cross section shows that the P&S tanks have a higher COG than a single tank in the center which means that they are less effective than the single if both are filled. The hull shape with lots of rocker does not appear great for planing in higher wind. In lighter wind it probably does not make much difference whether the tanks are filled or not.
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    It will be interesting to see how the boat fares in the EC, the boat looks like an R2AK contender too.
    Steve

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    Saw this boat at the start of the Everglades Challenge this year - very cool boat. It would probably do well wing and wing in the Texas 200. How did RoG end up doing in the EC?


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    recap and videos on there way.

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    It will be interesting to see how the boat fares in the EC,
    Skyped with Jean this morning. He wrote:
    I just sailed my final in the Everglades Challange 2017. 300 miles from Tampa to Key Largo. 6 days, 1 of 2 finishers out of 9 entries in my class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post
    That's a great account, and kudos to JF Bedard for accomplishing an Everglades trifecta: design the boat, build the boat, and then sail the course without mishap. Hats off!
    -Dave

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    Thanks for the nice comments guys. Here's some footage that DancesWithMullet shared with me. We sailed in company on the first day of the EC on Pine Island Sound. It gives a good idea of the conditions we were in.

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    Default Re: 15' RoG micro cruiser

    Outsider looking in. The Scamp looks better. I understand, looks have absolutly nothing to do with quality, but, the Scamps lines just look more appealing to me.
    Scotty

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    I reckon its a cracker of a boat. Sails/ tacks/ rows and sleeps inside the cabin and all. Ticks all the boxes I reckon
    Last edited by Mark Bowdidge; 03-30-2017 at 02:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipsahoy View Post
    Outsider looking in. The Scamp looks better. I understand, looks have absolutly nothing to do with quality, but, the Scamps lines just look more appealing to me.
    Scotty
    Please lets not start with "my boats better than your boat" stuff. Scamp is wonderful. I adore her.

    RoG is also superb in her own way. Great to have these new designs available to us for micro-cruising.

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    RoG and SCAMP are so totally different that it's truly like comparing an apple to an orange. I like both. Boats are always a particular set of compromises so it's up to the individual to decide which set will satisfy them the best. I still love the jaunty, able, salty looks of the SCAMP and RoG offers the easy-to-live-with ketch rig and very interesting water ballast possibilities plus enclosed sleeping area. Neither boat can escape the laws of physics which dictate that the longer waterline displacement hull boat will tend to be the faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post
    Please lets not start with "my boats better than your boat" stuff......
    I had no intentions of starting any such conversations, I should never mentioned any other model. My apologies.

    I only wanted to speak to one feature, on this vessel only.

    When I peruse the available choices, I usually stop and read more about those that catch my eye.
    The war dept. says that I'm like a crow, when I see something shiny, I have to stop and pick it up.

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