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    Default Downsizing sof kayak plans

    What are the dangers in reducing the original plans for a SOF kayak, by a third overall?

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    You won't fit and it won't work well.

    From what length? So something like 15' to 10'?
    Did you have an actual example?
    Hopefully you are talking about leaving the width alone.

    On the other hand, if it does fail you will be out less money than most other construction styles.

    If you mean shorter length with the same width, the stringers will have more bow or bend when shorter. They may not actually be successfully bent without steaming or laminating.

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    And depending on your weight it may not float you too well unless you also increase it's draft and sit higher, which gives you another problem re paddling and stabilty.

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    Thank you both for your comments. One of my Great Grandsons is 12 year old and I would like to build him a 10 foot sof that he can transport himself. I have plans for an old 15 foot sof kayak.

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    http://gentrycustomboats.com/Kidyakpage.html

    Here is Kidyak 10 foot 20 lbs from Dave Gentry. I've built two of his other designs.

    I think a 12 year old will quickly out grow a 10 footer. You may want to look at some of his other designs.

    I also like Kudzu craft and have built 2 of these also.

    http://www.kudzucraft.com/web/

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    At 12 build him a full size. Better still get him to build it with your help of course. And put in a freight hatch large enough to take a sealed container for snacks on his expeditions.
    And whilst you are about it, talk to Todd about a folding batwing sail…….

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    A 13' Sea Bee from Tom Yost will be light enough to carry and has enough capacity for until he grows past 180#.
    I built one for a friend's son at 14YO and he is still using it at 18.
    Yost no longer supports the website, someone hacked him off.

    Free plans, offered on the condition that people didn't try to make money off the plans. Pity someone couldn't honor that.

    http://web.archive.org/web/201201261...yostwerks.com/
    Look under wooden kayaks I believe.

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    As above, build one he can grow into -- he will be able to paddle it now, too. Kayaks are very sensitive to even small changes in shape. Reducing a well designed 15' kayak to 10' will most likely result in a very unstable boat that could be dangerous and might put the kid off the idea of paddling. If the paddler is at the lower end of the designed capacity of a boat, stability will be very good and the boat will be easy to move.
    -Dave

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    Yost Sea Bee at 13 feet would be perfect. Build it with quality materials and he will have it into adulthood.

    OT, but related to Yostwerks...did someone start to sell his plans or designs so he shut it down?

    CG

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    I understood they were building boats and selling them.

    That was very much second hand information.

    Apparently no one has any contact with him. AFIK

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    Quote Originally Posted by Banksia Bob View Post
    Thank you both for your comments. One of my Great Grandsons is 12 year old and I would like to build him a 10 foot sof that he can transport himself. I have plans for an old 15 foot sof kayak.
    I the whole scheme of things, the plans are inexpensive - some are free, you'd be far better to start with a set of plans that is of a size to fit him now and for a little bit. It's a fun project and he's of an age that if he is close to you, I'd get him involved in the build.
    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."
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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    I the whole scheme of things, the plans are inexpensive - some are free, you'd be far better to start with a set of plans that is of a size to fit him now and for a little bit. It's a fun project and he's of an age that if he is close to you, I'd get him involved in the build.
    I second that, and if there are more grandkids coming along behind, they'll fit it as they grow ...
    Trevor Paetkau
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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    Thank you all for your advice. Your point is well made that a twelve year old will quickly outgrow a 10 ft. yak. He does have four siblings that he can pass it down to. Currently I have seven Great Grandvhildren in addition to my nine Grandchildren. The latter I have catered for by building a Gentry Chucknut 15, a Sea Tourer 15, a Gentry Wherry and a Percy B 15. All of which are used when they come to visit. Now it is time to start converting the next Generation.

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    So you had a lot more knowledge than was obvious.

    Have fun.

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    Default Re: Downsizing sof kayak plans

    Blimey Bob, where have you been? You've built more boats than most already.
    Are you aware of this thread?
    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...ection/page719

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