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    That's it for today. More pics soon to come, as a significantly increased progress is expected for the future!
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    Thanks for posting those pics Thomas

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    Awesome pictures mate, please keep them coming!

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    I've been thinking about how to fair those floors back and all I can think of is a Turboplane on an anglegrinder.

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    I guess they are taking those floors to the bandsaw again Peter.
    I consider once in a while buying such a trubo plane. Seems like good fun working with them.
    Nice progress Thomas.
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    A friend of mine uses one for large scale wood sculptures .... they shift a lot of wood fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    I've been thinking about how to fair those floors back and all I can think of is a Turboplane on an anglegrinder.

    I've got two different ones of those, they're very effective but you really need to be careful with them. I prefer to use a 450 or 500 watt 115mm angle grinder with 40 grit sandpaper on it, that also shifts wood very quickly but they dont kick as much and can be used for suprisingly fine work.

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    Thanks John, I haven't tried the turbo plane but did have a very good tool made in Western Australia, similar but less aggressive and likely slower. But of course I lent it to someone and haven't seen it since .
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    I'm trying to find a photo of it, this is similar .
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    In this case it's easy: The floors will be cut back with the bandsaw.
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    Thanks Thomas, I initially thought they had been glued in .
    Last edited by PeterSibley; 09-05-2017 at 07:09 AM.
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    Some more progress here: All pairs of frames are set up on the keel for try fit now, transom is under construction:










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    Sehr gut mein Herr! Please keep the photos coming..

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    Looking great! I will be following with interest.

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    A transom was made from 3 layers of veneer, same construction as the hull.
    As the old master said, that the sea wants everything to be curved, we had to build some centimeters of crown into it:







    And then a whale emerged:




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    Thomas, are the builders using P.G. Method of strip planking then two layers of veneer for hull? Which timber are they using? I'd imagine most of the wood would have to be imported from elsewhere?

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    don't worry I found the answer in #9
    Last edited by andrewpatrol; 09-29-2017 at 02:02 AM.

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    beautiful!!!

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    Yes Andrew,

    first strips, and then 2 more layers of veneers, all in WRC:

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    Final positioning of the frames, cutting back of floors




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    Lovely how that beautiful shape reveals.
    Gartside could be the designer for my next build. Oh wait Im still building a new boat...
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    That's going to be a really good looking boat. Love that hull shape

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    Some more progress here, sorry for the limited quality of the pics.

    Not forgotten: Limber holes




    Glueing up of the prepared deck shelves on the bench:




    Try fitting of the shelf on the boat:




    Glueing in of the shelves, deck beams used as additional reference to guarantee that shelf follows the deck camber:



    And finally the overview on the status so far:

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    Thanks Thomas the pictures are really appreciated. Have you seen the boat on P.G. Website. Interesting rig

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    Yes, have seen the rig, very interesting. A bold step out of the traditional box also. I have no doubts, that the rig has some seriously positive aspects of performance and may be also of easy-to-use to it. That flat head sail together with the jumper struts are telling me a story of performance. Probably also a somewhat brusque blend of styles for the traditionalist, and I frankly have to admit that I will need some time to get used to that look.
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    The main deckbeams were made:



    and try fitted. The aft beam:




    and the 4 main beams of the fore deck:



    Starting to look like a boat!
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    The deck is coming together. The deck beams are prepared to take the mast partner and all other members structural of the fore deck ...




    the frame for the forward hatch is constructed




    and the structural supports for the winch and bow sprit rest are let into the beams:




    Fordeck so far from below:




    and also

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    A look at the future cabin sole




    and onto the aft part of deck with the position of the deck house marked with a batten:

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    It's going to be very good to watch "right side up" strip planking ....I'll watch with interest !
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    It looks like the planking may be one of the last things done. Is that correct Thomas? I’d imagine they are going to complete a lot of the interior first as well? Certainly a lot to be said for building right side up, even if means sanding overhead of final planking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewpatrol View Post
    It looks like the planking may be one of the last things done. Is that correct Thomas? I’d imagine they are going to complete a lot of the interior first as well? Certainly a lot to be said for building right side up, even if means sanding overhead of final planking.
    Exactly. Plan is to finish the deck structure now, maybe even the deck house, then the already bought engine goes in and around Christmas we will mock up the outline of the interieur so we can finally decide on the (of course changed!) layout. Idea is to build from the inside out, as the access to the boat is so much easier when it is still not planked yet.
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    An excellent idea !
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    Regarding just the hull construction, I wonder what the time penalty is for strip then 3 x veneer layers right side up rather than downhand ? The builders must think there is sufficient advantage in having the interior available for fit out to make the hull inconvenience worthwhile .
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    Theres only two veneers (as with a lot of Gartsides) and no hull turn-over, plus theres time saved passing bulkheads and furniture thru, ala Jim Ledger. Seriously something to think about. Thomas would have more info tho’ having direct contact with builder. I cant wait to see how the hull is skinned and sanded tho.
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    Agreed Andrew, my mistake about the number of veneers, I was thinking of my preferred schedule.
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    A very interesting way to build a boat.
    Seems at the first thought unusual to me, but with the second thought it is very smart.
    Ive seen a slide show on youtube (building Emma) with the same idea.
    Keep the pictures coming Thomas.

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