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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Smokey Cape is an unusual boat, not a normal Randell design (as I know them) but more like a miniature Colin Archer and delightful with it!







    i knew Smoky Cape back in the mid 1990s when I was on board PEQUOT in Townsville. At the time she was owned by a couple (Steve and Michala) who had some connection with the Earl family…sorry, cant recall exactly. Steve and Michala were planning to head off into the Pacific to retrace a voyage of some description, once again, associated with Jack Earl. Its good to see Smoky Cape has now passed to new owners.

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    Did you go aboard Bern? How much space is there below ?
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    A couple of launches heading out on the last day.

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    Here's a video on the Aboriginal bark boat.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    Thanks Gary, I was hoping someone would post something more about the bark boat.
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    It really reminded me of an Andean reed boat.
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    Bark canoe collected in the 1850's on the Yarra in Victoria.

    https://museumvictoria.com.au/treasu...ls.aspx?pid=34

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    It really reminded me of an Andean reed boat.
    Same here. It would be interesting to know what the first Aborigines used to cross the 60 or so miles of deep water to get to Australia.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Same here. It would be interesting to know what the first Aborigines used to cross the 60 or so miles of deep water to get to Australia.
    Was there that much water to cross at that time? I think there might have been a land bridge, although I have to admit that I wasn't there at the time. New dating techniques are confirming very early occupation dates.

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    I think it's pretty much known that Aborigines crossed to Australia during the ice age when sea levels were very low and there just wasn't any, or much, water to cross. Just as kangaroos, cassowaries etc. crossed to PNG in that way. I don't think anyone's found any evidence of any watercraft or use of watercraft 40,000+ years ago, have they?

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    Ah no, now I read that homo erectus might have used rafts 800,000 years ago! That's quite old, isn't it? So, assuming that people continued refinement of homo erectus' rafts, it's possible that Aborigines did paddle or float over to Australia rather than stroll. I wonder if we'll ever know?

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    And, it seems, that while PNG and Australia were joined by land, sea crossing was always necessary for people to have crossed from Asia to Sahul - the ancient land comprising Australia and PNG - so there had to have been boats or rafts of some sort older than 55,000 or so years. I didn't know any of this! https://australianmuseum.net.au/the-...e-to-Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    And, it seems, that while PNG and Australia were joined by land, sea crossing was always necessary for people to have crossed from Asia to Sahul - the ancient land comprising Australia and PNG - so there had to have been boats or rafts of some sort older than 55,000 or so years. I didn't know any of this! https://australianmuseum.net.au/the-...e-to-Australia

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    And they didn't have steel or plastic or concrete, so they were some kind of wooden boats, or possibly skin and wood. If only we had more information and knowledge about it.

    Good sleuthing Rick.

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    If there is any evidence it's under the sea. Big rise in the sea level around 12,000 years ago.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    They think they probably used bamboo rafts.

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    Lombok Strait (the Wallace Line) was never dry, it's the reason we have no monkeys and elephants etc.

    Wallace's Line delineates Australian and Southeast Asian fauna. The probable extent of land at the time of the last glacial maximum, when the sea level was more than 110 m lower than today, is shown in grey. The deep water of the Lombok Strait between Bali and Lombok formed a water barrier even when lower sea levels linked the now-separated islands and landmasses on either side.

    Still tactically important for submerged transition from the Pacific to the Indian ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    They think they probably used bamboo rafts.

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    There are a couple of species of bamboo that are native in the NT.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    I was thinking that people probably went the other way

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    A few boats that we normally see at the WBF notably absent this year: Maluka, Love and War, Fare Thee Well, Camille ....

    No Folkboats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I was thinking that people probably went the other way

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    My thought was maybe they brought the species with them.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    Boat.........well raft people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    My thought was maybe they brought the species with them.
    So that would make them an introduced species, rather than native to the NT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    So that would make them an introduced species, rather than native to the NT?
    It's possible. You would have to see if the same species occurs elsewhere.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    Thanks a lot for the pictures!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Same here. It would be interesting to know what the first Aborigines used to cross the 60 or so miles of deep water to get to Australia.
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    Interesting shape Ian, this is a traditional Yami canoe from Taiwan.


    http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tra...-44017824.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    The first boat that caught my eye on the Friday when Jeff and I walked down for look was Isabella, a 34 foot Jay Beford junk rigged schooner owned and built by Eric (didn't ask his last name). I'd admired this boat last year when she was anchored on the Tweed.




    If I had known about this design back in the 80s I probably would have built one. If I had found Annie Hill's book back then I definitely would have! It's Annie's book that inspired Eric to build Isabella.

    Great to see the wonderfull pictures of the HWBF that I missed again.

    Now I am also able to picture where my place in the Festival could have been. Thanks Gary

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