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  1. #36
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    Default Re: FORD - starting issues

    Have you checked your check engine light?

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    Default Re: FORD - starting issues

    First hurdle
    TORX screws



    Had to remove the whole section, from flexible tube (loosened the clamp) after the sensor back to the filter (undid the clips).

    Then this is what I saw:



    and



    So I sprayed it with an electronic cleaner and then gave it a puff or two with an air can (for computer keyboard etc use).

    I am not sure that this was enough, but you guys and Youtube has scared me out of touching the wires, and using alcohol (for cleaning, not drinking) and Q-tips.

    Now awaiting reassembly this afternoon. May need another spray.

    New ones are around US$100.00 first cost, then I have to pay freight and 59% Duty etc on the cost plus the Freight charge.
    Enjoy a good rum on the rocks at sunset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    First hurdle
    TORX screws

    Those are security Allen heads. The wrench has to have that little hole in the middle for to engaged the recess.

    You will likely be fine with what you've done.
    Rattling the teacups.

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    Default Re: FORD - starting issues

    So???

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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Yes... I'd heard lots of stories about trouble getting Ford started.

    Wait... I haven't read this whole thread... we ARE talking about Pat Ford, right?
    I figgerred I'd troll up Pat with this. But no luck so far.

    I'm sure he'll be here before too long to defend his honor. Prolly just a little slow getting started <G>
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    Default Re: FORD - starting issues

    My 2 cents -- the battery.

    Put jumper cables from your battery to a good battery or a running vehicle. If this improves the idle, then you've identified a problem.

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    Found a chap with a diagnostic computer.

    Yes it is theMas Air Sensor.

    It is an intermittent fault.

    But he reset and did self diagnostics.

    Then was going to do redid the diagnostics, but there was no fault.

    Great it cleared.

    Drove it for 5 miles.

    No problem.

    Stopped it and restarted it no problem.

    I tried to start yesterday. 'Fault' light.

    Ordered the part.

    Will come by FedEx, either in two days or seven according to the chap.

    I swear that 80% of the cost of a FORD is the sensors.


    PS No doubt TomF could have got it quicker for me.
    Enjoy a good rum on the rocks at sunset.

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    Wrong Tom - but I get it. Thing is that sensors in all modern cars are costing a lot of $ - MAF sensors being one of the more common ones to go (including the one in my Chevy pickup).
    "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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    Let's hope it is the sensor, and not a problem in the wiring harness. If the symptoms persist....

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    Fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robm View Post
    Let's hope it is the sensor, and not a problem in the wiring harness. If the symptoms persist....

    True, as being partly intermittent, it could be mouse damage.
    Enjoy a good rum on the rocks at sunset.

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    I'm guessing in a humid and salt laden environment some moisture got somewhere that it's not wanted during her 8 months of resting. Vaporised when the motor warmed up and moved around a bit and settled somewhere where it was even less welcome, like on the MAF sensor. Hopefully with a bit of running time things will settle down.

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    Partly intermittent.

    Izzat like a little bit pregnant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Partly intermittent.

    Izzat like a little bit pregnant?
    Nope - partly intermittent is more than intermittent. Ruh roh - this could get philosophical...
    "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Nope - partly intermittent is more than intermittent. Ruh roh - this could get philosophical...
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    Default Re: FORD - starting issues

    Sounds incredibly expensive. Are cars that much in the islands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Sounds incredibly expensive. Are cars that much in the islands?
    High taxes & import fees/duties. Years ago when working on St. Maarten I drove a rusted out Passat that would've brought $100 in the US & it was worth $1500+ there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Here it is +/-85% (Barbados is over 100%) on the CIF value of the vehicle.
    if the vehicle is over (IIRC) 5 years old, they add US$1750.00 Environmental Tax.

    A six year old US$1,000.00 vehicle in the USA costs about US$5,450.00 after all charges costs etc.

    So the 2002 Ford for US$7,400.00 would be equivalent to about US$2,550.00 on the lot in the USA

    So yes cars are really that much in the islands.
    That's about what I thought the US price would be. Guess the taxes are supposed to bring the jobs back.

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    Default Re: FORD - starting issues

    Still got the Moke?

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    I replaced the MAS in my 93 Explorer at 142k. Didn't have to reset it other than just disconnecting/reconnecting the battery and letting the CPU figure it out. That took two more restarts and now the vehicle has 218k miles without an issue since. I just put new complete (rotors/drums/master+ wheel cylinders etc.) brakes and 5 new tires on it. Admittedly, I baby it, for being able to tell time and work out the basic math associated with such things. Only reason I keep it other than the obvious is, because I can haul sheets of plywood and other things in it and tow my boat. The paint's half wore off of it but has not a dent or scratch which is surprising, considering all the dip***ts and their phones that I have to dodge daily.

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