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    Wtarzia,

    Where did you find the reports for the B&B boat and sail?
    I'm interested in knowing about the rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upchurchmr View Post
    Where did you find the reports for the B&B boat and sail?
    I'm interested in knowing about the rig.
    --- I followed Alan Stewart's build-blog (Blogspot.com) and his progress during and videos of the 1000 mile Ultimate Florida Challenge, and I talked to him at The Wooden Boat Show. -- Wade

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudderless View Post
    For downsized codgers with no storage space, I think the Spindrift nesting 10' dinghy would just fit into my hatchback with rear seats flat. And I could leave it in there all the time if the mast and boom came in sections like all my inflatable sailkits. However I don't think they are sectioned, and the B & B site warns about need for double bailing a sectioned hull.
    --- Love these break-down boats, they are so versatile and say "yes" when other things say "no." (first boat I ever built was a break-down proa that I had to build and store in an apartment bedroom). I do believe you can get a sectioned mast as a special order (I talked this over once with B&B but did not act on it). Alan Stewart used one on his outrigger sailing canoe discussed in this thread. I suggest contacting B&B. -- Wade

    PS -- I once asked Dwyer Aluminum Mast about a sectioned mast; they did not have one on their web-site, yet a guy I spoke to suggested they either had them or could make them up for some standard dinghy design that used them (again, do not know why they did not say this on their web-site). Might be worth a call if B&B does not work out somewhy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Valley View Post
    How does the second reef work on that rig, do you just partly unzip the sail? ...
    --- I believe so. I have not played with mine yet, my new outrigger being far from done and my current one having shroud/stay hardware on the mast. -- Wade

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    Quote Originally Posted by tink View Post
    Meade has finished the EC, not you average old codger but still a great achievement, he has finished ahead of a lot of Hobie adventures and tandems. This stirling effort does go a long way to validate the concept of a single aka and small amas. IMHO this makes for a good old codger concept, with smaller lighter parts than a full blown trimaran.
    At 8.40 onwards some great footage of Meade, https://youtu.be/LIEf0BENaeo
    the B&B channel has test sails of their boat RoG

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    If you've aged well, you've developed a bit of taste and appreciation for finer things along the way. Given the choice between sailing a hideous tub such as some suggested here - and being waterboarded - I'd say bring on the towel and the bucket.

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    Function over form in some cases mate, better to be able to keep sailing than look at something you can't sail any more.....

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    Just found a new book in the library here. Saw it on Monday and checked it out. I'm about 150 pages into it now. It's called Sailing into Retirement; 7 ways to retire on a boat at 50 with 10 steps that will keep you there until 80. I'm about to turn 40 so don't really consider myself an "old codger" quite yet however the things he mentions make sense to ensure a boat is "old codger" proof as much as possible to make it as easy as possible to live aboard well into old age. He's in his mid 70s at this point and still living aboard a world cruising boat. Author is Jim Trefethen who also wrote The Cruising Life. I'm enjoying it and seeing many things to incorporate into my future build so it's ready for me as an old codger once she's finally built.
    If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
    -Henry David Thoreau-

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_tampa View Post
    If you've aged well, you've developed a bit of taste and appreciation for finer things along the way. Given the choice between sailing a hideous tub such as some suggested here - and being waterboarded - I'd say bring on the towel and the bucket.
    I would suggest you are either no where near you twilight years or have never properly sailed before, you are missing the whole point of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tink View Post
    I would suggest you are either no where near you twilight years or have never properly sailed before, you are missing the whole point of this thread.
    --- He seems to be new to WBF, so has not yet had a chance to age here. There is still time. :-) -- Wade

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    Quote Originally Posted by tink View Post
    --- What an interesting way for attaching and tensioning the forestay-shrouds. But why does what appears to be his leeboard have what appears to be rudder-like pivot engineering? -- Wade

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    this bit?


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    I think it is just a long handle on the very long leeboard, it would be lovely to see more with explanation, there is a lot going on in the craft. This is an earlier version. Like the mainsheet cleat, the mast spanner which appears to have the vang control on it. It also appears that the pitch of the ama can be controlled.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard of Woods Designs View Post
    Having said all that, my father is certainly an "old Codger" as he is still dinghy sailing at 92. he now has a Walker Bay 10 with inflatable tubes. That is because he can no longer learn back, he would fall over. And he wanted a light enough boat so he could pull it up the beach (Swanage) without help. Seems to still be working for him, he sailed it 21 times last year.
    There is a Russian 15 ft sailing RIB that furthermore folds into thirds once you deflate the tubes: Winboat 460 rf. I just had a panic realizing that one for sale on Amazon could be a lot cheaper before Amazon starts collecting sales tax in a few days. But the collapsed dimensions are inches too big for my non-SUV. It is expensive, heavy, and maybe tippy until the tubes get wet (often leans to windward) but it could give a bigger boat experience for a codger with no storage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tink View Post
    I think it is just a long handle on the very long leeboard, it would be lovely to see more with explanation, there is a lot going on in the craft. This is an earlier version. Like the mainsheet cleat, the mast spanner which appears to have the vang control on it. It also appears that the pitch of the ama can be controlled. ...
    --- Yes, but there was a different photo of something I saw, but now I've lost it.

    I was talking to someone last night who knows more about Gougeon during this EC. Turns out it is even more amazing that this "old codger" finished the EC. A weird incident occurred and he fell out of the boat as the boat shifted at anchor. To get back aboard he gripped his chair and it popped out and floated away. He got back aboard, upped anchor in the night and searched for his chair, but lost it in the current. This was a big blow because the well designed chair is very important to his sailing-endurance ergonomic -- in this new version of the canoe, the chair also reverses and he can sleep with his head out of the wind under that hard dodger (you have seen the cool things he has used that dodger for -- storage pockets and compass, etc. up under its roof -- and now it is even cooler). He ended up using the dodger as a kind of seat back rest for the remainder of the event. What a sailor! -- Wade

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    Meade for president of OCS

    how go we some how have plans drawn for his latest boat

    the ultimate OCS design

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