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    Default Argie 15 on Danube river

    Hi friend!guage.
    After a long search for a suitable boat, I decided to build precisely ARGIE 15.
    Now I read everything written on this subject here and admire the projects that are presented.
    I read also Russian forums on this boat. There also has good hits.
    I hope I would find time to share the construction of the boat.
    I've already done the shelter where I will work. Of course because of the low temperatures in winter, will work on the small details.
    I decided it equipped with standard rigs and centerbord.
    I already have a plan and because I am lazy, I digitized drawing and will use the CNC router for cutting details.
    My problem now is that in Bulgaria can not find marine plywood and therefore delay to the start of actual construction.
    I plan to work out a wooden mast for my boat
    I found and even got offer from a manufacturer of sails.

    My 15 year old son has promised to help me.
    So, it remains only wish work less money and time for fun.
    Last edited by kipu; 12-24-2016 at 11:05 AM.

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    Wonderful. I am delighted to see another Argie 15 build starting. Our family built an Argie three years ago and love to use our boat for sailing and fishing.
    Your idea of CNC cutting the panels is not lazy. It is logical for someone who wants to save time.
    Please feel free to ask any questions along the way. I am happy to help with the knowledge I gained on our build.
    Is 5-ply, 6 mm thick Baltic birch plywood with waterproof glue not available there in Bulgaria?

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Unfortunately there is no such a plywood. Only poplar and poplar veneer okoumé.
    Regarding information on the Internet has thick birch plywood, but not 6 mm
    Here is not very developed a self boatbuilding.
    This will be my second boat there is build for myself
    The first was "sunny skiff". I will share some pictures, but first I must find how to make this.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Quote Originally Posted by kipu View Post
    ... . I will share some pictures, but first I must find how to make this.
    Look here:

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...57#post4806057

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...88#post4359188
    Gruß, Günter

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    How about wooden veneers - 1.5 to 2 mm in thickness? You might be able to glue up your own plywood by from three veneers.
    I also stumbled on this thread on another site: http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/sai...ior-25862.html

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Welcome to the Argie builders club. You might want to look at Fredostle's thread, Norwegian Attempt, as he made up his own planks from 3mill veneers. Looks good and might be worth a try. Be sure to post lots of pictures.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    When I started my build in Winter 2012 there were no Argie 15 threads on this forum. Now there are about a half dozen. Plenty of pictures and advice to ease the task. This WBF Argie 15 "club" is starting to grow into a small squadron.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    For all here and for protocol - My name is Toni I am from Lom, Bulgaria. This is in North West part of my country on Danube river.

    So, thanks capefox,(I think your real name was Andrew). for link you provide. I wrote to Turkey and answer is that I must go to Istanbul to buy plywood. And now in this crazy situation there , it's impossible.
    I am not sure that I can make a plywood for myself and I will looking for in Italy.
    I try some time to post a pic from Google Photos but something get is wrong.
    I will try another way to post pic
    My be I shall registered my own blog on my language and connect from there pictures.
    Last edited by kipu; 11-02-2016 at 01:28 PM.

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    Welcome to the forum, Toni. I spent many pleasant days on the Danube in Hungary back in the early 90's. I was supposed to spend the time in Sofia, Bulgaria, but got sent to Hungary instead. I am looking forward to seeing the progress you make with your build.
    Oldad

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Hi Toni
    You get very nice boatbuilding plywood from bruynzeel. The best in my personal opinion.
    Maybe the company has some dealer near you. Here is the address in Holland. I hope I don´t break any forum rules by that.

    Pierre Castricum
    Tél : 00 31 75 6554 230
    Fax : 00 31 75 6554 291
    pcastricum@bruynzeelmultipanel.com

    Next to my place there is a company who makes very nice plywood too. I guess you can order from them without seeing the panels. I never had trouble with their stuff.

    http://www.sommerfeld-thiele.de/

    I don´t know how expensive the transport will be. But maybe that isn´t that terrible expensive.
    Good luck
    Max


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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    I have some question for mast tube and boom tube.
    In plan it's pointed that tubes need to be 63mm dia for mast and 50 mm for boom both in tickness 3.18 mm
    I find tube for mast 58 mm dia x 4 mm and 48 mm dia x 2.5 mm.
    Question - is this are suitable or they must be the same like in plan?

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    I find tube for mast 58 mm dia x 4 mm and 48 mm dia x 2.5 mm.
    Question - is this are suitable or they must be the same like in plan?
    You might want to write to Dudley dix about that. I know that Dudley calculates everything, so question him as he alone would know what is suitable and what is not.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    It sounds like your material would be fine, but I agree with Mark's advice on contacting Dudley for definitive answers. I'd be surprised if Dix nixes the material you intend to use. Are you open to building a wooden mast? We initially used an aluminum two-piece mast as shown in the plan, but did not like the results overall. The spruce one-piece we built subsequently was far lighter and aesthetically pleasing. We eventually scrapped the remains of the aluminum mast after removing the Scheaffer track from it for roughly $20 at a local yard.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    I asked Dudley and he confirm that I can use pipe of this size. I thought about making a wooden mast and even got the drawings, but in generally it's difficult with materials suppliers.
    I paid plywood in Italy and not even know when they will deliver it. It's a litle bit funny story but ...

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Quote Originally Posted by kipu View Post
    I thought about making a wooden mast and even got the drawings...
    Does Dudley Dix now provide drawings for a wooden mast? Only the two-piece aluminum was in the plans I bought in 2013.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Quote Originally Posted by capefox View Post
    Does Dudley Dix now provide drawings for a wooden mast? Only the two-piece aluminum was in the plans I bought in 2013.

    Of course not ! I found plans on the Internet!
    easy_mast_1.jpg

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    Last edited by kipu; 04-03-2017 at 06:59 AM.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    What is the status of your build?

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Hello everybody,
    I restart my project. Finally I bought a birch ply and today deliver my material.
    I guy who have a CNC router have same difficulties that means I must cut details myself.
    I print them on to paper in full size and now I start transfer it. Last summer I build mast from wood and this was big work because I need some instruments that need to buy.
    Now I start working on my boat.
    Firs I glued paper model and it looks great.
    I will continue to inform you with my work and progress.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/OCVLkWOMrmekbjUm2
    Last edited by kipu; 04-24-2018 at 08:27 AM.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    I have already received the material and cut the parts.
    Even the bottom panel I joined it.
    I'm not taking pictures because the technology is familiar.
    This week, I will join the other panels as I plan to start and stitch them

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    The construction started


    2018-05-10_09-21-43 by Toni Todorov, on Flickbr />
    Last edited by kipu; 05-11-2018 at 03:55 AM.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Already looking good. Keep the pictures coming.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Last weekend progress


    Making a boat with my father

    2018-05-12_06-25-47

    2018-05-12_06-26-34

    2018-05-14_08-43-04







    and made new work base



    2018-05-12_02-58-08
    Last edited by kipu; 05-14-2018 at 01:43 AM.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    That Mast looks like it's quite difficult to make.

    Also, what happened to the plywood you ordered from Italy?
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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Congratulations stiching the hull! Now you are ready to start building the boat That stiching method is soo fast, making you believe you get on water next week

    Regards Fred

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Quote Originally Posted by Redeye View Post
    That Mast looks like it's quite difficult to make.

    Also, what happened to the plywood you ordered from Italy?
    I already make wooden mast like this



    2018-05-15_12-22-09
    DSC_1451

    DSC_1461


    For plywood from Italy : They delivered me , but the dimensions were 3 x1.5 m and 5 mm thick. It seemed to me insufficient, so I decided to follow the constructor's prescriptions

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Thank you, Fred. I've already made sunny skiff and know the procedures.
    A lot of sanding after all
    PRIMA
    Last edited by kipu; 05-15-2018 at 06:14 AM.

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    Default Re: Argie 15 on Danube river

    Done so far

    2018-07-03_06-01-27

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