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    Victoria is in the boat yard safe and sound!

    We will be spending the weekend giving her a good cleaning and getting her ready for the winter ahead.

    Feel free to stop by and we will gladly give ya tour. If you have more time to spend we will gladly put you to work helping to give her a good scrub!

    If you don't know where our yard is just send a email to acorntoarabella@gmail.com and we will send you the address.

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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    She has some pretty jewelry !
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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    Hi Sd.

    nice job getting Victoria into the yard.

    not sure how much of her rigging you'll be able to recycle but it may be worth a look at this thread for some ideas on modern alternatives. also the first photo gives some perspective of the sheer size of Ingrid, Wow!
    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...Served-Dyneema

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    She has some pretty jewelry !
    yup that's why she caught our eye on Craigs List, and less than an hours drive from Acorn... (not Arabella yet) I had to say something.

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    Lovely! A proper ships cabin. Good score on all of it. I particularly like the windlass.

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    I cannot fathom the time and money Victoria has saved you - a year or two off the new build and tens of thousands of $$ - good for you. And I think it totally fitting that Victoria be salvaged this way. Almost like a big THANK YOU from William Atkin. You are two lucky ducks. Now get going on Arabella!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorB View Post
    I cannot fathom the time and money Victoria has saved you - a year or two off the new build and tens of thousands of $$ - good for you. And I think it totally fitting that Victoria be salvaged this way. Almost like a big THANK YOU from William Atkin. You are two lucky ducks. Now get going on Arabella!
    She be like a time capsule!

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    You won't be needing those gaff jaws, eh? I don't suppose Atkin drew up a gaff Ingrid, did he?

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    Fantastic, that old boat gets a new life in a way too.

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    That is a treasure trove of reusable hardware. Will save a lot of time and money for your Arabella.
    You should be proud of your efforts to grab the hull and save the salvageable parts.
    Even that sextant will go to sea again. Not difficult to overhaul and restore to original condition.
    Read the Blog on this valuable web site. https://sextantbook.com/
    Is that engine a Perkins? If so it should be restorable. Parts are readily available worldwide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    yup that's why she caught our eye on Craigs List, and less than an hours drive from Acorn... (not Arabella yet) I had to say something.

    We are SUPER thankful that you told us about her! We believe she will knock a year or more off the build, we never ever would have found all that amazing bronze never mind having it all match!!

    Daniel- If we can ever do something for you let us know, we owe ya at least one =)

    The craziest part is-

    The asking price was $3,000 US, we took a quick lap of her and said we would cough up the 3k. We were thinking to ourselves even if we live on rice and beans for the winter or have to sell a kidney we will scrounge up the cash.

    The former owner immediately said that 3k was too much!! He told us to sort out trucking and he would decide how much he wanted after that. We called around and ended up using Brownell, they did a great job! It was $1,254 to get her trucked the 130 miles and the former owner asked for $1,200 for Victoria. We got her for $2,454 and a couple trips to the coast!! We bought the diesel motor and the rest was free!

    We got a garden cart full of lines, most are pretty worn and UV eaten but we will put them to use though out the build I am sure. 9 sails I believe, they all look to be in decent shape and are also encrusted in bronze hardware. The work bench in the shop is currently COVERED in boxes of fasteners, pins, latches, wire....... Absolutely incredible was was in her.

    It will be a while before we manage to go through everything, its staggering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Madison View Post
    Lovely! A proper ships cabin. Good score on all of it. I particularly like the windlass.
    Thanks! We had 8 people in the saloon Saturday night eating a wild turkey I shot, drinking beer and telling tales. It was pretty wonderful! The windlass is awesome, such a simple effective machine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorB View Post
    I cannot fathom the time and money Victoria has saved you - a year or two off the new build and tens of thousands of $$ - good for you. And I think it totally fitting that Victoria be salvaged this way. Almost like a big THANK YOU from William Atkin. You are two lucky ducks. Now get going on Arabella!
    That we are!
    We like the idea of her being a "thank you" or a "thata boy" from Atkin. We have been talking and the plan is to obviously use as much as Victoria as we can and we are going to challenge ourselves to build the dinghy 100% from lumber salvaged from Victoria and to name the dingy Victoria and put the bronze name on the dinghy. We thought that would be fun and fairly fitting =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorB View Post
    You won't be needing those gaff jaws, eh? I don't suppose Atkin drew up a gaff Ingrid, did he?

    He did,

    She is called Stormy Petrel, a Ingrid hull that is rigged as a gaff ketch. We have those plans, so those jaws just might see action again. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don MacLeod View Post
    That is a treasure trove of reusable hardware. Will save a lot of time and money for your Arabella.
    You should be proud of your efforts to grab the hull and save the salvageable parts.
    Even that sextant will go to sea again. Not difficult to overhaul and restore to original condition.
    Read the Blog on this valuable web site. https://sextantbook.com/
    Is that engine a Perkins? If so it should be restorable. Parts are readily available worldwide.

    We are quite pleased to say the least!

    We will have to check that book out. The sextant is in rough shape =/

    The diesel is a 50hp Perkins that fires up with the push of a button. Apparently it had not been run in close to a year and it fired right up first try. Mighty fine sign!

    She also has a 60 gallon monel fuel tank and I believe monel water tanks as well.
    ACORN TO ARABELLA
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    Man, she has a lot of bling. Staggering!

    Quote Originally Posted by sdenette View Post
    The diesel is a 50hp Perkins that fires up with the push of a button. Apparently it had not been run in close to a year and it fired right up first try. Mighty fine sign! She also has a 60 gallon monel fuel tank and I believe monel water tanks as well.
    And apparently a well without a bottom. You are two lucky boatbuilders. Proof positive that it's easier to build anything with a community.

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    Great stuff - like the others I cannot get past that winch,the sextant and the Perkins.
    All restorable for future use.

    The sextant looks like a C Plath, which is a very good manufacturer.
    It is completely restorable and will serve you well.
    Have a look at Fig 6 on the blog about the Plath sextants - https://sextantbook.com/2012/11/13/e...lath-sextants/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdenette View Post
    He did,

    She is called Stormy Petrel, a Ingrid hull that is rigged as a gaff ketch. We have those plans, so those jaws just might see action again. Time will tell.
    Thanks for the info - I've never heard of Stormy Petrel. Does this info come through Pat? A gaff-rigged Ingrid would be perfection....a slightly larger, and curvier, Vilasar. I'd put those jaws to use, no doubt about it. DO IT!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoritzSchwarzer View Post
    Man, she has a lot of bling. Staggering!



    And apparently a well without a bottom. You are two lucky boatbuilders. Proof positive that it's easier to build anything with a community.

    Yes, it is MUCH easier to accomplish anything with a community. The keel timber, lead, restoration of the saw, the three boats we have have gotten for parts.... All came from leads within the community. Most of them actually came from this forum! It and it's members have been a massive resource and I have said it before and I will say it again.

    Without this forum I don't think we would be doing what we are doing.

    Thanks everyone!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don MacLeod View Post
    Great stuff - like the others I cannot get past that winch,the sextant and the Perkins.
    All restorable for future use.

    The sextant looks like a C Plath, which is a very good manufacturer.
    It is completely restorable and will serve you well.
    Have a look at Fig 6 on the blog about the Plath sextants - https://sextantbook.com/2012/11/13/e...lath-sextants/

    Awesome,

    We would love to restore the sextant and it's box for use on Arabella. Considering everything else is top of the line I am not surprised to learn it could be a higher end sextant. We really need to find out the details of this boats history!

    For us it's the small details we love the most like the amazing fish towel holder in the head and all the little latches and such that are so well thought out. The devil is in the details and this boat has some serious details!

    But of course the big stuff like running Perkins and functional windlass are spectacular. The binnacle is also pretty amazing, as are the rope hooks in the aft hatch. It's just all so fricken incredible!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorB View Post
    Thanks for the info - I've never heard of Stormy Petrel. Does this info come through Pat? A gaff-rigged Ingrid would be perfection....a slightly larger, and curvier, Vilasar. I'd put those jaws to use, no doubt about it. DO IT!!

    Yeah, through Pat.

    I posted on the forum asking if folks would choose gaff or Bermudian for an Ingrid. Obviously lots of opinions both ways but one person mentioned they believed there were plans for a gaff Ingrid.

    I emailed Pat and sure enough in 1959 a gentleman wanted a 38' cruising gaff ketch so Atkin took Ingrid and slapped a gaff rig on her (Ingrid was drawn in 34). The deck plan changes a little bit to accompany the new rig but they are pretty minor changes and the hull stays the same.

    Since the hull is the same we have plenty of time to decide between gaff and Bermudian but those bronze gaff jaws just might push the scales a bit! =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdenette View Post
    Yeah, through Pat.

    I posted on the forum asking if folks would choose gaff or Bermudian for an Ingrid. Obviously lots of opinions both ways but one person mentioned they believed there were plans for a gaff Ingrid.

    I emailed Pat and sure enough in 1959 a gentleman wanted a 38' cruising gaff ketch so Atkin took Ingrid and slapped a gaff rig on her (Ingrid was drawn in 34). The deck plan changes a little bit to accompany the new rig but they are pretty minor changes and the hull stays the same.

    Since the hull is the same we have plenty of time to decide between gaff and Bermudian but those bronze gaff jaws just might push the scales a bit! =)
    +1 for bermudian, if you're going to be on the open ocean it would be less complicated, HOWEVER, only you know where you're at as far as sailing ability and knowledge,

    There is a strong rationalization on this forum for people to build to learn to sail, rather than sail to learn, then build,

    learning how to sail a boat can complicated enough without having a complicated rigging and sailing setup. Less complicated also means less breakage and lower cost of repairs.

    Here on in the quotes will begin arguing how great the gaff-rig is and all kinds of other rigs and how I don't know what I'm talking about and I don't really care, but you asked at least I answered lol.

    It never happened but I thought my next boat would be ketch rigged.

    Sooo my suggestion ? rather than ask Builders of boats, ask people that sail on the open ocean and actually do the kind of sailing that you dream of doing!



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    If you're clever with rig height and spreader placement you can have both. Gaff main for inshore and a Bermuda for offshore. In fact you often see gaff race boats set up with what are effectively big trysails for the ocean passages.
    I'd be thinking about a flush track for slides rather than the usual way of doing that....which is an unsupported sail above the spreaders, sometimes on a light vertical spar.
    Designing a modern gaff rig you go for more mast height and lose the topsail yard anyway.

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    Congratulations on a great find. An "organ donor" of the finast kind.

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    We are really excited about visiting tomorrow!

    We just watched the video from the film festival:


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    Wow!,..... Jut plane old WOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    We are really excited about visiting tomorrow!

    We just watched the video from the film festival:


    We are psyched to have you visiting! We have a few different people stopping by in the next few days for a tour. We even went and bought a guest log book yesterday for folks to sign so we have some record of who came and when.

    See ya this afternoon!
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