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Thread: Restoration of the BC Salmon Troller "Petrel"

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    Okay, so I was half right LOL, I think Maine has 20 foot tides
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    Proclaimer is a neat boat. Looks like she was for sale back in 2013. From an archive of the listing:

    This 1943 40′ offshore custom Canadian troller built by Charles Malcolm. She has been repowered with a Cummins 5.9 turbo diesel engine with only 195 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    Okay, so I was half right LOL, I think Maine has 20 foot tides
    More like 12 max - but it feels like more sometimes...
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    Pretty amazing to stand on the dock and realize that in just a few hours there would be 10’ of water over my head.

    Proclaimer would be be a nice boat to own. She’s a little beamier than Petrel and Snoose, and with the horseshoe stern gives her more room. I didn’t talk to anyone about her, just walked out and took a couple of pix. I like the colors too. She’s at the end of K dock if you’re feeling curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    An emergency tiller sounds like a good idea in theory. Think you really need it? Hydraulic steering is pretty bulletproof. As long as you leave good access to the tiller you can always circle back to the emergency tiller later.
    A lot of commercial boats with hydraulic steering get towed in because of a steering casualty. I've used the old pipe wrench in an emergency. The current boat has an emergency tiller in the lazarette.
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    Fair enough, I wasn't really trying to discourage wanting or having an emergency tiller. It just seemed like to focus was drifting a bit far into details that don't move the larger project forward.

    I know that is super presumptuous on my part, and a bit selfish, but dammit, I want to see progress!

    I hope that Chris and the rest of you guys will forgive me for stepping out of line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris-on-the-Boat View Post
    A lot of commercial boats with hydraulic steering get towed in because of a steering casualty. I've used the old pipe wrench in an emergency. The current boat has an emergency tiller in the lazarette.
    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    Fair enough, I wasn't really trying to discourage wanting or having an emergency tiller. It just seemed like to focus was drifting a bit far into details that don't move the larger project forward.

    I know that is super presumptuous on my part, and a bit selfish, but dammit, I want to see progress!

    I hope that Chris and the rest of you guys will forgive me for stepping out of line.
    There are lines here? Sheesh - someone needs to tell me this stuff! No worries Jim, I knew where you were coming from. It's not a bad idea, as Chris R. and others have noted, but I gotta have priorities, and an emergency tiller is pretty low on the list when I can't even get Petrel out of the slip until I fix the steering. At the moment I think my list goes something like:

    1. Fix the steering

    2. Frame sister/replacement aft of the pilothouse

    3. Rebuild the aft deck, cap rail, etc.

    4. Pilothouse window refinish/reinstall

    5. Paint everything that needs it (which is everything right now)

    6-99. ...more stuff...

    100. Emergency tiller.

    See - there. It's on the list

    Oh, and I do have the obligatory BAW (very large wrench) aboard, which would do in a real pinch

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    I presume you keep the BAW right next to the BFH?
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    ^^^ Indeed. The two tools without which the world of men would be much less exciting place.

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    Yes, and yet...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I presume you keep the BAW right next to the BFH?
    A BAW makes an excellent BFH.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    A BAW makes an excellent BFH.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    That's your basic CAT (Carburetor Adjusting Tool)
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    Here is a pic of simple bipass valve on a steering ram. But I agree, a very low priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    That's your basic CAT (Carburetor Adjusting Tool)
    Ouch - my mechanical sympathy is giving me twinges just thinking about that. One of the first bits of machinery I was ever given to work on was a one-off, sand cast Weber carburetor for an O.S.C.A racing car that my grandfather was restoring. He had me disassemble it for him when I was eleven or so. I still remember the great sense of responsibility I felt as I carefully unscrewed all the fasteners and then the jets, laying out everything very precisely in the order in which I removed each piece.

    OTOH, the float in Lucky Truck's basic Carter carburetor has a tendency to stick so I sometimes have to give the float bowl a tap. A screwdriver handle does the trick though. No need for the BACAT.


    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Pea View Post
    Here is a pic of simple bipass valve on a steering ram. But I agree, a very low priority.
    Thanks Snow Pea. That does seem like just the setup I need.

    We have a wedding to go to tomorrow and then Father's day events on Sunday so I think I'm going to see another weekend pass with little time for boat work. Might steal away for a bit in the morning before we have to get ready for the wedding though. Like Jim, I'm itching to make some progress!

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    Oh *hell* yes! I want one!

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    You know the best thing about Father’s Day? You get to pick the family activity. I’m getting four painters for boat work on Sunday.

    Just incase you were looking for ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    You know the best thing about Father’s Day? You get to pick the family activity. I’m getting four painters for boat work on Sunday.

    Just incase you were looking for ideas.
    That thought did occur to me, but we already had plans to head over to Vashon for brunch with another family so no chance. But I’m looking forward to photos of your family painting party!

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    When looking at that bypass valve, the first things I see are about eight more joints to leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    When looking at that bypass valve, the first things I see are about eight more joints to leak.
    True, but I think that's a minor concern in the overall picture, and well worth it for the benefits of being able to bleed the system without opening any fittings and quickly swap over to an emergency tiller with no need to disconnect the cylinder. Heck - it's just another excuse for me to practice my copper flaring technique

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    Well, while Jim is sprinting to the finish line with Amazon, I'm still inching along here. After staring at my broken, steering cylinder cross beam for a while I decided to just make another one after all, rather than repairing the first one. I'll find another use for that piece of AYC and in the end I know I'll be happier if I take the time to do it well.







    A little final fitting, some bolts and I'm ready to re-mount the cylinder. Might even take the time to paint it.

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    Looking good Chris!
    Must be cooler on the water today. ..
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