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    "HOUSTON -- A man accused of killing an 11-year-old Houston boy as the child walked home from school sobbed in court Monday as prosecutors told the judge the boy was stabbed at least 20 times."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/prosecut...bbed-20-times/

    "A woman who did nothing to intervene when her boyfriend raped her two daughters was sentenced on Monday to 10 years in prison as part of a deal for testifying against the rapist"

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...daughters.html


    I'd be at peace in pulling the trigger and this happens every day. Perhaps the death sentence doesn't work because it isn't executed quickly and frequently enough.

    There is no reason for people like this to continue being a part of society, the laws need to be changed and these people need to be removed. Modern day forensics are far different then those that were used even ten years ago. It's time to stop the insanity, some people don't deserve to be here.

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    The death sentence has never been effective regardless of how it is administered.

    I am perfectly happy with caging the beasts. We must be better than them.

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    I have no problem with executing some people; as you say, some truly deserve it. For a few of 'em I almost wish I believed in hell. But there is no evidence that executing people serves as an effective deterrent, except to the one dying. That person it deters very effectively.

    The problem is that as human beings, whatever system we set up to decide who will be executed will not work perfectly. History is, alas, full of all too many examples. I am not willing to take the risk of killing an innocent man, and am willing to bear my share of the cost of keeping some seriously bad folks locked up for as long as they live.
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    I'm opposed to the death penalty. I certainly could never kill another human, regardless of what they may have done.
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    In this day and age we can without a doubt determine in most cases if someone is guilty, those people need to die. I don't care if it is a deterrent, it really isn't the point for me. I don't think these people should continue to live and enjoy any form of life.

    I'll be happy to step up and end the life of someone that does harm or allows such to a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    I have no problem with executing some people; as you say, some truly deserve it.
    "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." --William Munny

    We are all meat puppets in a deterministic world. There's no use blaming anybody for what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." --William Munny

    We are all meat puppets in a deterministic world. There's no use blaming anybody for what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." --William Munny

    We are all meat puppets in a deterministic world. There's no use blaming anybody for what they are.
    Did someone say "Meat Puppets." They actually indicated where people go when they die via Nirvana.

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    No thank you. The death penalty is as barbaric and needless as both of the crimes linked to.
    I'll just take my chances with those salt water joys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    In this day and age we can without a doubt determine in most cases if someone is guilty, those people need to die. I don't care if it is a deterrent, it really isn't the point for me. I don't think these people should continue to live and enjoy any form of life.

    I'll be happy to step up and end the life of someone that does harm or allows such to a child.
    So, your motivation is revenge then?
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    Rotting away in a dreary prison cell for the rest of their lives is a living hell. I'm good with that. Stop and think for a minute what that means. All your freedoms gone and only a cage to look forward to for the rest of your life. I'd say that's worse then death.
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    Going by rich's theory It's cruel to place one in a cage for life. A quick death would more humane

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    In this day and age we can without a doubt determine in most cases if someone is guilty, those people need to die. I don't care if it is a deterrent, it really isn't the point for me. I don't think these people should continue to live and enjoy any form of life.

    I'll be happy to step up and end the life of someone that does harm or allows such to a child.
    That places a wafer thin margin between you and the crazy psychos

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    I thought this thread was going to be about voluntary euthanasia.
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    I agree with #13 and #14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    So, your motivation is revenge then?
    Nope, not at all. Revenge has nothing to do with it. They no longer should be utilizing the resources that other more deserving people need or will need.

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    Certainly the resources required to imprison a person 'for life' could be better deployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    Nope, not at all. Revenge has nothing to do with it. They no longer should be utilizing the resources that other more deserving people need or will need.
    Setting aside the morality of the state killing US citizens, how will you make the transfer of funds work in your society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Setting aside the morality of the state killing US citizens, how will you make the transfer of funds work in your society?
    I think the killing is your real issue which I have no problem with, morality is something that is religion based and since we all know the worship of something that doesn't exist is a further waste of resources it seems to me more of your problem then mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    I think the killing is your real issue which I have no problem with, morality is something that is religion based and since we all know the worship of something that doesn't exist is a further waste of resources it seems to me more of your problem then mine.
    Morality has nothing to do with and is independent of religion. You need to study more. Consider the Borgias.
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    Doesn't playing God and killing anyone just playing God in reality? I am not God. I don't pretend to be God and I can't play God!

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    What I don't understand is how so many who support "small government" are pro-death penalty. Government can't get much bigger than executing you in cold blood.

    If the USA is going to continue to have executions, make attendance mandatory, and make em bloody. You shouldn't get to pretend to be moral while exterminating people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Morality has nothing to do with religion. You need to study more.
    Right and wrong has been dictated by religion for thousands of years but the real question is whether there is a right and wrong?

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    In this day and age we can without a doubt determine in most cases if someone is guilty . . .
    Unfortunately, not true - at least not with the degree of accuracy required to justify killing people. And the inconsistency with which the death penalty has been applied - often dependant on race, class, the quality of one's lawyer, or just pure dumb luck - is another fairly powerful argument against doing something irrevocable. You make a mistake with a life sentence, you can always apologize and let the guy out, but not if he's dead.

    Although I agree that there are a few people the world would be better off without, our system for determining exactly who they are is not good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    I can't say the same. If my wife, children or family were murdered by such scum and it was clear cut e.g. if I saw them do it, I would have absolutely no hesitation in pressing the button.
    It would haunt you for the rest of your life and you would be diminished by it. It would sully your memory of the people you love. It would not give you the satisfaction you seek. I know this because the people who call for the execution of those who murder their loved ones never cease being angry. Those who try to forgive find peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    the real question is whether there is a right and wrong?
    Why am I not surprised that you do not know right from wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    The problem is that as human beings, whatever system we set up to decide who will be executed will not work perfectly. History is, alas, full of all too many examples. I am not willing to take the risk of killing an innocent man, and am willing to bear my share of the cost of keeping some seriously bad folks locked up for as long as they live.
    But you are willing to take the risk of locking up an innocent man for as long as he lives.

    It is hard to say which is worse.
    Life is complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    . . .morality is something that is religion based. . .
    I'll bet your religion taught you that.

    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    Right and wrong has been dictated by religion for thousands of years . . .
    So according to your own statement, there is no universal morality, no universal concept of right and wrong.

    That could get messy, don't you think?

    I mean, the Mormons seem to believe that marrying as many 13-year-old girls as possible is moral behavior.

    Catholics do not.

    According to your own logic, they are both right.

    I think you have a LOT to learn about morality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    But you are willing to take the risk of locking up an innocent man for as long as he lives.

    It is hard to say which is worse.
    But there does seem to be a rash of DNA based reprieves, a possibility at least . Dead is so final.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Why am I not surprised that you do not know right from wrong?
    Could you define what is right and wrong for this discussion. You do realize that killing is a fact of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    Could you define what is right and wrong for this discussion. You do realize that killing is a fact of life.
    So now it's situational morality? I thought morality was dictated by religion?

    If you're going to say that each religion dictates morality to suit itself, and then decide to toss all that out the window and define it for yourself for the purposes of this discussion, what's the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by delecta View Post
    Could you define what is right and wrong for this discussion. You do realize that killing is a fact of life.
    Wrong is the possibility of executing an innocent man or woman.
    But there does seem to be a rash of DNA based reprieves, a possibility at least . Dead is so final.
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    I've heard it said that the death penalty is not a deterrent, and maybe that's true.
    Well one this is for certain. The convicted won't be commenting another crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    If they were murdered I'd have nothing to live for.

    If he (or she it it) continued to live and was released after a few years by the namby pamby justice(?) system in Europe and other placed it would drive me insane. That he was walking around enjoying life and being with his family and my family were rotting in their graves.

    I would perhaps might possibly forgive the scum after he was six feet under or 'immured' permanently forever.

    So.....simple revenge .


    I'm not saying I wouldn't want the same but you'd need to be ABSOLUTELY sure it was the right person.
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    You're killing someone is just as bad as someone killing someone else! What separates you from each other? You are no better than the other guy.?You would go to the grave being a murderer regardless!
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