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    gougeon brothers to the rescue.... http://westsystem.com/21/pdf/Ew21_epoxy_adhesion.pdf
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    Alright - haven't update in a hot minute but have some down time in Argentina. Figure if I'm on vacation and my dad is left to work solo might as well post the fotos Haha!
    Here we started the marriage process - but needed drinks first!

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    Marrying the bow planks after the fact was a mistake we later came to realize... But nothing a few more shots couldn't fix!!

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    Tools of the trade.

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    A little epoxy action.

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    First kayak ready for tape!

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    On to number 2 - and more drinks!

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    We married the planks first and then started attaching them to the base - worked out alot better, and easier.

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    Flew threw the first planks!

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    A little moto break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.BlackHand View Post

    On to number 2 - and more drinks!
    Just realized that there may be an impression of a one big drinking event, rather than putting kayaks together.
    That is certainly not the case !!
    We are learning interesting stuff during the build:
    - copper wire 18 gauge can have different diameter from different manufacturers,
    - carlins the best glued/screwed to bulkhead first, and after epoxy cures - bend and glue to the knees and rear bulkhead
    - plan designer allows up to 1/2" discrepancy in dimensions !!??? - that's hard to swallow for a machinist
    - glue sheer clamp to the sheer panel before stitching it to the bilge panel
    ....and the last one - so very important - connect bow and stern of bilge panels before stitching it to bottom panel !!!!!

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    Exactly - case in point, gluing after stitching on the first kayak.
    Oops!

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    as my son is vacationing in Argentina.....I decided to go for a short ride on my Glen L 15, powered with SeaHorse 5.5hp motor...

    https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1Q...hLlbmKzfcm_fhu

    ....tring to fallow Thornes "how to post photo " instructions.........finally give in and attached a link to it

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    this stain that was sitting on the shelf for a while....and we have decided to go with this color for our kayaks
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    got "new" motor for my Glen L 15....it's 1980 Johnson 7.5 hp longshaft......took for a spin few days ago......cruising speed is easy 6mph......went 10mph for max speed test, motor was performing great, love it !
    Would like to make some seats in the forward section, to balance the boat while under way.....
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    .....so I've stained a piece of plywood, let it dry for 24hrs, then applies fiberglass tape with epoxy, let it dry for 24 hrs.......in few minutes I am going to the BoatShed to see if there is a reason to celebrate


    just went to the BoatShed and I am very pleased to find the tape stuck to the plywood for good
    ......I was using fast setting hardener, but I am planning to use a slow one for glassing the whole kayak, I think should have any problems - right ??
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    ........in the meantime.....



    inside seems fiberglassing is done .....from the start......




    .....to finish
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    ....then filled the outside gaps with thickened epoxy......taping around the work area works great to prevent spilling epoxy all over the surface, and save from future sanding


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    Old Man and The Kayak
    .......stain applied, "Golden Mahogany"

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    another distraction: building a floor for a gas can, in this area of my Glen L15...



    this picture just keeps disappearing - sick and tired of it !!
    ...another try...?

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    kajak build progresses




    our first time glassing - went actually better than expected, some imperfections here and there, but after sanding it and doing second epoxy coat with a roller, we hope to have some nice smooth surface
    Last edited by 2dogsnight; 06-27-2016 at 11:04 AM.

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    after working all day, we took a break and went motoring around on my Glen L15
    1980 SeaHorse 7.5 hp gives a max speed 10mph


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    I did it the other way around. Went for a boatride in the morning, then home to start painting the kayak. Finally.
    It's going in the water Saturday, whether the paint is dry or not.
    No adversary is worse than bad advice.

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    before glassing we took the kayak to see how it will float.......set it on the car with some foam under it....drove 5 min to the water holding on to kayak with our bare hands





    and she floats very nicely ....
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    after we were done glassing the first kayak, we went ahead and continued work on kayak #2....which is actually kayak #1
    ......with the experience gained, we are going pretty fast.....and we do things differently - we think : better!


    upper panels are glued pre-assembled prior to stitching it to the rest of the kayak - that assures getting the general shape correct !!



    instead of "fighting" the planks - we are using clamps to have planks set in the correct way - and then stich them together....






    after making sure that all the measurements are there - bulkheads are clamped into place - and kayak #2 is pretty much ready to be glued - of course have to let it sit for few days - and keep making sure that it does look correct - check a dimension here and there, twist the wire tighter here and there.......
    Last edited by 2dogsnight; 07-23-2016 at 11:17 AM.

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    Few days ago went to German restaurant in Tacoma for dinner with my younger son. Had this Polish beer. Found it very delicious.......


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    Pics aren't showing up in those last three posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    Pics aren't showing up in those last three posts
    I keep reposting them.......and they can be seen ....and when I sign into the forum again - they are gone
    I am using Google Plus to store pictures.
    What's interesting that some pictures from the same album stay on, some are disappearing

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    it's not getting any easiebr />
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    yes, thankfully we are building two kayaks....so the first one is kind of a learning experience .....but yes, I know what you mean. Today started on the deck and glued, nailed part of it. Tomorrow will continue, but I have a feeling that the transition to side deck on one side will not be going smoothly. The whole process is very iffy in my opinion, but I will do my best.

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    continuing with installing decks on kayak #1.
    After consulting my wife, I am using Google Chrome to post pictures from picture hosting site, we shall see if this will make a difference.


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    took off the tide downs and the deck stays on. Small step for man, etc !!
    Very happy with the results, tomorrow plan is to complete decks instalation........tonight: off to work I go

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    so plan to keep going on aft deck didn't pan out. family wanted to go for a boat ride, and this proposition was hard to say no to. We get out Glen L 15 hook up to the truck and off we went to the boat lunch at the Longbranch.
    Tide was down a little but we managed to launch the boat without much troubles. Johnson 7.5 started with a first pull (!!) and we were on our way. Sunny weather, glass quality water - we were moving 7 mph easy. Wanted to go to Anderson Island park. My GPS found it, but cell phones didn't seems to wanted to work on the water - they are much better than marine GPS I have.
    We spend around 4 hrs on the water cruising around - fun time !

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    the itch to keep going didn't go away, and last night the aft decks were glued in place, and this morning ( without waiting 24 hrs for the epoxy to cure) fore and aft decks become one !!....talking about a milestone
    Then ( like the milestone was not enough) I 've started shaping decks to the sides of the kayak. Tried various senders that did not work fast and slow enough, and finally run into Stanley .....that was it!
    Turned out that hand plane works the best for this application, more: plywood can be planed either way - there is no with/against the wood grain!
    Who knew ?

    Last edited by 2dogsnight; 07-29-2016 at 01:13 PM.

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    before leaving for work, I have had only 4 hrs for everything this morning - well, went to BoatShed - just to look......end up finishing shaping decks. They looks pretty good, tomorrow I think I will stain them, and that will be it for now - pretty much ready to try it out!


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