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    Default Mill Creek 13 Build

    Ahoy Mates!
    My Father (2dogsnight) and I have decide to take on a new project - build 2 Mill Creek 13' kayaks.
    This will be our first build, (and my first thread).
    We picked up the supplies Monday morning, BS 1088 Okoume Marine Plywood and jumped right in.
    We were able to get all of the cuts and skarfing done day one.
    Since this was our first attempt at skarfing, I think we did a pretty good job.
    Then yesterday we were able to get all the joints glued together.
    We both felt pretty good about the progress made in the first 2 days!
    I have lots of fotos I will post but they are too large, does any one have advice on how to shrink the resolution to post?
    I will update the thread next week after another Mon/Tues session.
    Any constructive input is welcome!
    Cheers!
    C.BlackHand

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    Its not the size, you can't just attach pictures to the forum. You need to post on a photo hosting site and copy one picture link and a time and paste the link to the forum so it will display the picture with out actually holding the picture in the forum database.

    From forum FAQs:
    ...FIRST - Don't attach photos. Only a tiny version will display.
    ...SECOND - Post the photos on the web. Use your own website or a free image hosting service like www.flickr.com, picasaweb.google.com, picturetrail, photobucket, etc. Images posted on Facebook must be set to "Public" access via the Edit option, not limited to "Friends".
    ...THIRD - Once posted on the web, right-click the photo to "Copy Image Location", or drag the photo to another browser window, then copy the image URL (web address) which will end in ".jpg". You can test by pasting the photo URL into the location field (http://* ) of a web browser and see if the photo displays. Remember that this process will not work for photos located just on your computer, on members-only Yahoo groups, or on Facebook unless set to "Public" view. (In Flickr - You usually have to first click the photo to bring up the black-framed viewer, then click the "View All Sizes" link near the top right. Then you can get the image URL by right-clicking the image. Alternately you can go to the Actions menu on the upper left, then select "View All Sizes".
    ...FOURTH - DO THIS EVERY TIME TO POST IMAGES IN THREADS: A. In any "Reply" window you can click the "insert image" icon --> a little yellow square icon with a dot at each corner, a tiny tree in the center.Depending on browser version and Reply/Edit status, this may bring up a simple window with a field to paste the URL into, or the "Add an Image" window described below.
    B. If the window titled "Add an Image" comes up, click the "From URL" tab, paste the URL of the photo in the field, deselect the box for "Retrieve remote file and reference locally", then click the "INSERT IMAGE" button. The Forum software will resize some large images, so look at your post to see the actual displayed images.
    YouTube video on how to select the image URL in Firefox, navigate the "Add an Image" tabs and paste the image URL - "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkfB_eDmBRw&feature=player_embedded"

    To pate the photo url into the forum do this:


    Then do this:
    Steamboat

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    Default Re: Mill Creek 13 Build

    That will be a great boat for casual paddling, especially if you are a photographer or bird watcher in marshy areas or along protected shore lines. Also probably very good for fishing.
    There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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    Looking forward for C.BlackHand to figure out pictures posting process ��

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    It's a fun build. I started one in 2010, backburnered it for a few years, and over this winter I brought it to almost-completion (too cold to paint). Now it's hanging from the rafters while I build something else. Looking forward to finishing and floating!
    No adversary is worse than bad advice.

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    Yea we're having a blast so far!
    We're shooting to have it finished by summer, hope to see you floating around!
    Thank you for the picture loading advice, I have loaded them to Flickr and will now attempt the extraction...
    Last edited by C.BlackHand; 03-30-2016 at 01:20 PM.

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    Ok if this works this foto is our Okoume Plywood and what we are calling the "whiskey sheet" Haha
    Last edited by C.BlackHand; 03-30-2016 at 01:35 PM.

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    Preparing to skarf

    First attempt Jesus of Nazareth style.

    Proved too slow, so moved onto Tim the Tool Man Methodology.

    Dad jumped in to give it a go. We used a 50 grit initially and moved to 80 grit to give the finishing smoothness.

    Day one finished all cuts and skarfing - Na Zdrowie!!

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    Day 2 begins same as day one, really enjoyed our new ritual

    Mixed the glue to a mustard like constancy.

    Don't starve the joints!

    All tucked in for the night. Sleep tight little ones, greatness awaits!

    Day 2 was a success - we salute you.
    Last edited by C.BlackHand; 03-30-2016 at 02:12 PM.

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    Scarphing with 50 grit sander was Bruce Wizbang inspired

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    You should use nitrile gloves to prevent a possible development of an epoxy allergy. The gloves on the pics only prevent sticky fingers.
    Gruß, Günter

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    You're both having too much FUN!
    Steamboat

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    Haha that's the main goal Steamboat - the kayak is a byproduct

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    I've always admired those Mill Creek kayaks ever since the first CLC catalog came out. I see one in my future. I built a Tred Avon double some years back - I love it, but it is a bear to transport at 21'!

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    Alright, here's the update on this week's progress!
    Day 3 - "All About Offsets"

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    Use the batten carefully and the hull panels will be "fair".

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    They looked pretty "fair" to us!

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    Cleaning up the oceans, Captain BlackHand and his crew. Trouble on the seven seas?! He'll know what to do!!
    Last edited by C.BlackHand; 04-11-2016 at 12:04 AM.

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    All planks mocked and ready, cuts begin at dawn.

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    Twenty-one Thumb Salute

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    Dawn - cuts began promptly.

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    The cuts will continue until the moral improves.

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    Gotta keep on cutting, someday gonna make this wood a boat - and be a Kayak Hero!! (Got oars in their eyes)

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    Cuts done, Na Zdrowie!!

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    Day 4 complete! Update next week with more progress, and more spirits

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    Do the plans call for deck hatches for the forward and aft compartments? I can't recall.
    I didn't do hatches, I did access ports in the bulkheads. I mention this because in retrospect I wished I had cut the holes in the bulkheads before assembly.
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    W plan to do access ports also. Going to West Marine to get one assembly to have a cut out hole dimension.
    Definitely planning on cutting the holes in bulkheads before assembly......good call Figment!

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    While I'm dishing out retrospectives.... whittle down some scraps to make a double-thick ring at the cutout so you can install the ports with screws instead of nuts&bolts.
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    Great idea Figment!
    Just checked WM web site and although they don't have this brand in stock, they do post all dimensions including cut out

    Barton Marine's Round Inspection Port is made from white, high-impact polycarbonate, threaded with a built-in O-ring. Aperture: 5" (130mm). Cutout diameter: 5 1/2" (139mm). Overall diameter: 6 5/8" (170mm). Requires 5/32" (4mm) fasteners.




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    I did the beckson 6" with ditty bag option. A holdover from my beach-cat days.
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    Did the cutouts for 6" ports. The ditty bag option is nice - probably more expensive than just an inspection port......we will make that decision when kayaks are done. Summer is coming and the goal is to build it up to usable condition, and worry about details later on...

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    looking 18 gauge copper wire, fiberglass tape 3" wide 6-9 oz, and 50" wide fiberglass cloth .
    So far other then Chesapeake Lightcraft nobody else has it.......

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    for the wire, just get picture-hanging wire from the hardware store.

    For tape and cloth, we eastcoasters have a lot of options, my favorites are www.defender.com and www.jamestowndistributors.com
    I dunno where to go in your neck of the woods.
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    Found tape and cloth at West Marine, but the biggest find is 18 gauge copper wire at Home depot!!! HD has also large selection of picture hanging wire, I will check it out when I get there.
    Thank you Figment!!

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    Ended up getting everything from CH L
    .....question: can I stain plywood before covering it with fiberglass cloth??.......

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