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    On the "hate science" thread, an assertion was made that just as there are RWWs, there are equivalent LWWs.
    As an observer from Europe, I do agree that RWWs are a thing, can anybody point out "Whacked out" liberal behaviors or thinking?
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    Corbyn - either?
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    An intellectual lazy description would be the extreme "wokeness" of young left wing people.
    In reality these words usually seem to be used by RW wacko's ( at least in my country)

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    People on the right would probably point out Bernie Sanders, AOC and others as examples of LWW, “socialists”, “communists” or some other smear of that ilk. While I am sure there are examples of what you cite, I can’t recall ever meeting any that I would consider LWW.

    The “right” has veered off to the right so far politically, that they would recognize conservative stalwalts from the past as “left wing”.

    Consider the testimony this week and articles by retired Federal Judge Michael Littig. He’s a stalwart conservative thinker - but even he has come to recognize how out of kilter the Republican Party, and indeed, “T****” republicans have become. Such that the man has described them as, “a clear and present danger” to the United States.
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    The left has its share of silly, even ridiculous ideas, but actual 'wackos' are FAR less common than on the right at this point in history, at least in the US. Communists are an endangered species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    Corbyn - either?
    Jezza is stuck in the 60s or 70s, when Wedgie Benn was still active. His brother is totally nuts, but only of minority interest
    Are the left wing supporters of Jezza really as wacko as RWWs though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    The left has its share of silly, even ridiculous ideas, but actual 'wackos' are FAR less common than on the right at this point in history, at least in the US. Communists are an endangered species.
    Precisely so.

    An example is our own UUA. My sweetie is sometimes tempted to scream at some of the short-sighted, overly-PC, reactive, policy prescriptions they decide to champion. Good hearts, bad judgement.
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    Keith is right. But it isn’t a question of which is more numerous, it’s whether there are any “Left Wing Wingnuts”. Indeed there are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Keith is right. But it isn’t a question of which is more numerous, it’s whether there are any “Left Wing Wingnuts”. Indeed there are.
    True, but the relative numbers matter.
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    Ah, on the other thread you asked for a definition. I’m not sure I have one, but the proximate adjective is “wingnut” which is a nice portmanteau of left”wing” and “nut”s. I think there are many far left political and cultural figures who engage in magical thinking, or have lost their moorings with common sense and lack an appreciation that their political opinions are merely that and not indisputable facts.

    “Wokeness” is now a silly slur, but it was originally used to describe in-group praise amongst extremely progressive people who knew they could see the world better and different than the non-progressive, who were subjects for enlightenment. I see it in academia, religious organizations, far left political groups like Occupy and those who prefer the title progressive or democratic-socialist, media and culture (think Gwyneth Paltrow, Goop, and the crystal healing crowd), and the like. My daughter’s city council member in Seattle believes in nationalization of Boeing, Microsoft, and Amazon, and expropriation of fancy houses in Seattle to become collective housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Precisely so. An example is our own UUA. My sweetie is sometimes tempted to scream at some of the short-sighted, overly-PC, reactive, policy prescriptions they decide to champion. Good hearts, bad judgement.
    Oh God yes. My sweetie too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Ah, on the other thread you asked for a definition. I’m not sure I have one, but the proximate adjective is “wingnut” which is a nice portmanteau of left”wing” and “nut”s. I think there are many far left political and cultural figures who engage in magical thinking, or have lost their moorings with common sense and lack an appreciation that their political opinions are merely that and not indisputable facts.
    Are there enough of them to be a real current threat to US society, as the RWWs are becoming?
    “Wokeness” is now a silly slur, but it was originally used to describe in-group praise amongst extremely progressive people who knew they could see the world better and different than the non-progressive, who were subjects for enlightenment. I see it in academia, religious organizations, far left political groups like Occupy and those who prefer the title progressive or democratic-socialist, media and culture (think Gwyneth Paltrow, Goop, and the crystal healing crowd), and the like. My daughter’s city council member in Seattle believes in nationalization of Boeing, Microsoft, and Amazon, and expropriation of fancy houses in Seattle to become collective housing.
    The crystal healing crowd are not political over here, more harmless eccentrics. Nationalization is a force for good, providing that you take the right industries into public ownership. That is the clever decision that requires a pragmatic understanding. Similarly, homes kept empty as a speculation should be compulsorily purchased and used for social housing, ''For the General Welfare''. I think that your example is one of being misguided, not whacked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Are there enough of them to be a real current threat to US society, as the RWWs are becoming?
    You have to understand that LWW and RWW are two sides of the same coin. They feed off each other. The Nazis would never have come to power without the specter of the Communists getting there first.

    When significant numbers of celebrities, party radicals, and foolish young people defend stillborn ideas like "defund the police", they help elect the RWW.

    In Brazil, Bolsonaro only won in 2018 because a very loud minority of LWW turned the left's campaign into a sea of hammers and sickles while calling for the policies that destroyed Venezuela next door. Few people voted for him, but a lot of people voted against the other side.

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    Once you get the total numbers, you have to divide them by type of wackness, depth, etc. And influence.

    As I recall anti-vax suddenly became nearly mainstream in Hollywood, pre-Covid. Then the pandemic, and now look. Eric Clapton and Van Morrison, for Pete's sake.
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