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    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/d...d-anti-kkk-law
    The chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee has sued former President Donald Trump, his attorney Rudy Giuliani and two violent right-wing groups over the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, alleging a conspiracy to interfere with his official duties as a congressman.
    Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS) asserts that Trump, Giuliani, the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 — the law passed in the years following the Civil War to combat white supremacist terrorism from the Klan.
    The act includes language criminalizing two or more people conspiring to prevent public office-holders from discharging their official duties — in this case, the certification of President Joe Biden’s 2020 victory.
    “The Defendants acted in concert to incite and then carry out a riot at the Capitol by promoting an assembly of persons to engage in tumultuous and violent conduct or the threat of it that created grave danger of harm to the Plaintiff and to other Members of Congress,” the suit, which was filed on Thompson’s behalf by the NAACP, reads.
    In addition to a judgement that the defendants violated the post-Civil War law, the suit seeks compensatory and punitive damages to be determined at trial.

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    Go Bennie,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy W View Post
    Go Bennie,
    It seems like the perfect act to sue under. I wonder if the courts have been sufficiently corrupted by Trump to save his butt.

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    Interesting! Seems like a very relevant statute.

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    It would be delightful if Trump got nailed unier a Reconstruction-era anti-white-supremacist terrorism law. I find it hard to imagine anything more like justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    It seems like the perfect act to sue under. I wonder if the courts have been sufficiently corrupted by Trump to save his butt.
    Time will tell. Wonder if he'll get any competent lawyers, that he likely won't pay, to defend him.
    Hope the door hits him on the way out.

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    He has been strangely silent lately. i wonder if it's sinking in that there could be consequences for his actions.

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    Excellent! That seems so appropriate. Rep. Thompson is African American, but I find that to be secondary and almost too literal regarding the law in question. He is attacking directly the collusion that exists between Trump and those who would disable our government. I hope the racism angle proves irrelevant as it is secondary to the greater crime.
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    I love the final paragraph of the cited article:

    “Interestingly, the suit concludes by quoting Senate Minority Leader
    Mitch McConnell (R-KY). McConnell voted against convicting Trump on the impeachment article against him, but noted in a speech following the trial that “former presidents are not immune” from civil or criminal litigation.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    Excellent! That seems so appropriate. Rep. Thompson is African American, but I find that to be secondary and almost too literal regarding the law in question. He is attacking directly the collusion that exists between Trump and those who would disable our government. I hope the racism angle proves irrelevant as it is secondary to the greater crime.
    Keep in mind that the voters Drump was trying to disenfranchise were Democrats mostly from urban areas. Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee etc. All with significant minority populations. Looks like white supremacy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    It seems like the perfect act to sue under. I wonder if the courts have been sufficiently corrupted by Trump to save his butt.
    I doubt it.

    [Your thread got some traction, so I locked the other.]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    He has been strangely silent lately. i wonder if it's sinking in that there could be consequences for his actions.
    I wouldn't be at all surprised if his little weasel-brain was spinning in an enhanced overdrive mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    It would be delightful if Trump got nailed unier a Reconstruction-era anti-white-supremacist terrorism law. I find it hard to imagine anything more like justice.
    I'm not above a small serving of Schadenfreude for dessert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    Keep in mind that the voters Drump was trying to disenfranchise were Democrats mostly from urban areas. Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee etc. All with significant minority populations. Looks like white supremacy to me.
    Oh yes! I didn't mean to say otherwise. It just isn't limited to that. Trump is about power, respect and validation. He is the kid whose father never approved of him, so he is desperate to be told he is important. Trump probably isn't a big-time racist, but he's happy to use them to get what he wants. Those minions who stormed the Capital won't do better under Trump. If anything, they will do worse. They're just too stupid to know it.

    Trump and the rioters threatened the lives of half of Congress at least and sought to interfere with their efforts to do their job. It effected every Representative and every Senator including the white ones. I just wish the suit were broad enough to recognize that fact, but the law is a strange beast and you use the tools that are available. I applaud Rep. Thompson. I just don't want to see this degenerate into a black vs white thing when it is much bigger than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    I doubt it.

    [Your thread got some traction, so I locked the other.]



    I wouldn't be at all surprised if his little weasel-brain was spinning in an enhanced overdrive mode.



    I'm not above a small serving of Schadenfreude for dessert.
    I meant to bump yours and lock mine, but when I'd put a comment on it and came back to mine, it already had a comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    Trump probably isn't a big-time racist, but he's happy to use them to get what he wants.
    Didn't he have a history of refusing to rent to non-white tenants? Or was that his father? I thought it was both. If so, I'd say that qualifies him for "bit-time racist."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Tom View Post
    Didn't he have a history of refusing to rent to non-white tenants? Or was that his father? I thought it was both. If so, I'd say that qualifies him for "bit-time racist."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Tom View Post
    Didn't he have a history of refusing to rent to non-white tenants? Or was that his father? I thought it was both. If so, I'd say that qualifies him for "bit-time racist."

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    Yes, I'd absolutely call him a 'big time racist'. Racial issues are not as important to him as propping up his scrawny little ego... but nothing is. By several orders of magnitude.
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    I expect the courts will be busy. In the background earlier I heard something about a large donor wanting his $2 million back. It was money he gave to help prove the fraud that wasn't there.
    Hope the door hits him on the way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Tom View Post
    Didn't he have a history of refusing to rent to non-white tenants? Or was that his father? I thought it was both. If so, I'd say that qualifies him for "bit-time racist."

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    Yes, and he lost that lawsuit.

    Now he's dropped Giuliani as his lawyer, and gone of on an unhinged rant against McConnell.

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    John, I 'KNOW' he did not write that diatribe against McConnell by himself - Anyone ever hear him use the words 'dour' and 'sullen' in his everyday conversation ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye54 View Post
    John, I 'KNOW' he did not write that diatribe against McConnell by himself - Anyone ever hear him use the words 'dour' and 'sullen' in his everyday conversation ???

    "Dour" is one syllable, and "sullen" two easy syllables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye54 View Post
    John, I 'KNOW' he did not write that diatribe against McConnell by himself - Anyone ever hear him use the words 'dour' and 'sullen' in his everyday conversation ???
    I agree - no way he wrote that. "Sullen" is hard to write with a Sharpie too...
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    I just hope at least one lawsuit sticks with enough potency to stagger Trump.

    His base is brainwashed, so one which attacks his reputation is useless. It needs to be one which constrains his political activity or breaks him financially. In the meantime, being shunned by social media has been better than any lawsuit may ever be.

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    If this were actually a made-for-HBO miniseries, someone who looks and sounds a lot like him—but with a magic appeal to the other side of the demographic and political spectra, and with a non-evil agenda and non-dog-whistle talking points—a liberal progressive, audacious, brash billionaire, with hair and a red tie, but with actual real billions and public tax records and a reputation for over-the-top philanthropy—rides over the horizon with a bugle sounding the charge. In the Disney version, Trump and the non-trump Hero meet on the pinnacle of some ridiculous height and duke it out, the Norwegian spandex-clad samurai with bouncing pointers hanging by her fingernails from a gargoyle overlooking a chasm teeming with nuclear crocodiles...

    Sorry.

    On topic, I think he gets wound up, and rants his dogwhistle rally points, while a sycophant pokes it up on a keyboard, and a senior advisor scrubs and tweaks it for general public release.
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    Yes, those words are outside his own vocabulary.

    I agree with Cris. I think the best shot at curbing his ambitions is thru the courts. Both civil & criminal.
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    And now Limbaugh dies. Nothing is going right for the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    And now Limbaugh dies. Nothing is going right for the right.
    Biden's fault.

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    Why lawsuit invoking the KKK Act against Trump and his minions matters

    It matters a lot. If the U.S. Senate refuses to do its duty to hold the co-equal branch (in this case the executive) accountable for “high crimes and misdemeanors” then once again Black patriots must step up as it is our communities that will be severely impacted by any future acts of white domestic terrorism, lynchings or mob violence.

    More importantly, Republican lawmakers and legislators have already started putting together voting restrictions in key states like Georgia, where Black votes made the difference for Biden and the U.S. Senate.

    https://thegrio.com/2021/02/18/ku-klux-klan-act-1871-trump-capitol-riot/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I agree - no way he wrote that. "Sullen" is hard to write with a Sharpie too...
    He can do it...
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    Graphically, the git's signature looks a little like a stock market curve, up and then down, some volatility, more up and down and then tank city. Every thing he touches turn to sh!t, even his, maybe especially, his own name. It's good there's not a Nobel for irony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    Trump would marry an African princess if it gained him the adulation of the African American community. You need to understand what drives the man.
    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Yes, I'd absolutely call him a 'big time racist'. Racial issues are not as important to him as propping up his scrawny little ego... but nothing is. By several orders of magnitude.
    It's also been said that managers at his casinos would pull black dealers off of the tables and put white ones on when he was in the Building. He also liked Jewish men to count the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    It would be delightful if Trump got nailed unier a Reconstruction-era anti-white-supremacist terrorism law. I find it hard to imagine anything more like justice.
    Justice would be if we could bring back the Pillory and make it a traveling affair in a dozen major cities for a week at a time.

    And just so no one thinks me heartless the accused would only be in the irons for 12 hours a day. The other twelve hours would be spent in what passes for a home with the poorest members of the community so that he might develop even a modicum of empathy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Carey View Post
    "Dour" is one syllable, and "sullen" two easy syllables.

    Doable.
    Two easy syllables? Absolutely!
    Doable? Perhaps, however, . . .

    given the range of perhaps 30 to 40 most used words in regular rotation by the alleged author over last 30 plus years, highly unlikely.

    I've heard a lot of words like crazy, nasty, vicious, low IQ, stupid, weak, very weak, bad, very bad, etc. But sullen and dour I'd imagine he'd have trouble even finding them in a dictionary, let alone actually being able to define either of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin T View Post
    Justice would be if we could bring back the Pillory and make it a traveling affair in a dozen major cities for a week at a time.

    And just so no one thinks me heartless the accused would only be in the irons for 12 hours a day. The other twelve hours would be spent in what passes for a home with the poorest members of the community so that he might develop even a modicum of empathy.
    I just want all his, his daughter's, his son-in-law's assets completely frozen, so they are all on welfare.
    Hope the door hits him on the way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin T View Post
    Justice would be if we could bring back the Pillory and make it a traveling affair in a dozen major cities for a week at a time.

    And just so no one thinks me heartless the accused would only be in the irons for 12 hours a day. The other twelve hours would be spent in what passes for a home with the poorest members of the community so that he might develop even a modicum of empathy.

    Why would you inflict him on the poorest members of our community? Are their lives not hard enough as it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Haberland View Post
    Why would you inflict him on the poorest members of our community? Are their lives not hard enough as it is?
    You're right, apologies.

    Perhaps he could earn his keep with chores and such and of course be constrained from babbling with a ball-gag or similar apparatus to keep the pie hole closed.
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