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    Stout!
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    Very pretty Walt!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skegemog View Post
    This is some nice work, thanks for sharing it. Have you thought of trying Sketch up to flesh out some ideas for your house? Pretty quick to learn and easy to look at different ideas from different angles
    I am pretty bad with computers. I can barely post this project. My wife even typed the post about cabin designs. I just can't get it. I will keep trying with paper and pencil though.

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    I have been working hard on this project. As we all know sometimes it looks like nothing is getting done and others boom!

    I have determined the sizes of the bow deck and cockpit. Seem like big decisions. I finished the port inner sheer clamp and lots of blocking for the decks. I am excited about the deck framing which will begin soon.











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    WOW imagine the living space you will have on this one.
    Great job
    Don't worry I'm happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by beernd View Post
    WOW imagine the living space you will have on this one.
    Great job
    The cabin will only be 18' long. i suppose that is larger than some boats but small for houseboats. I could only handle a 30' boat from a construction/ space aspect but it will probably be large enough.

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    That is a beautiful hull Walt. Just saw your email about how your cabin is going to be 18 feet long. That means you are saving quite a bit for outdoor deck space?

    I'm writing because the shantyboat we built up here is 28 feet long with an 18 foot long by 8 foot cabin. The back 30 inches are for bathroom and storage. I have found our cabin to be plenty roomy with a full sized futon that is usually set up as a couch, two plastic adirondacks, a desk and a small chair. We have plenty of room.

    I have more interior pictures but here are a couple from a few weeks ago. Photobucket's website has turned into a total disaster-ads, videos, questions about connecting your acct to facebook, google, apple etc.

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    That's pretty nice simple design. I like it.
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    Well I am continuing the deck framing without a house design. I like this kind of work even though it doesn't get done fast enough.
    On the stern I tapered some 3" thick treated pieces and built them out to make the deck 11" wide. I will have a coaming of some sort. On the bow I used spruce to lighten it up a bit. The deck beam has a camber in it although it is hard to see in photos.





    A picture looking forward. This is just a temporary sole. I got tired of stumbling over floors and stringers.









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    That all is beautiful, Walt. I really am amazed at how much you've done so far.
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    The side deck framing is completed. i took the stern deck framing apart and did it a different way. All deck framing done and time to concentrate on the cabin. I am drawing some cabin options and will post them soon. It seems like I am at a crossroad of building this. Will I try to make it a cruising boat or just have a house on it. Either would be good but I have many decisions to make and I am launching it next year whatever its going to be!









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    Looks good. I vote cruiser! ( But, of course, I am just and admiring and envious onlooker with a daydream.)



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    Thanks Kevin. I want a cruiser too but it is complicated.

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    I know you have ideas, but I'll throw out a couple, too.

    It needs a pot-bellied Franklin stove.

    And a loading crane--make it a miniature break bulk ship to load your stores.

    Beautiful hull, Walt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorBravo View Post
    I know you have ideas, but I'll throw out a couple, too.

    It needs a pot-bellied Franklin stove.

    And a loading crane--make it a miniature break bulk ship to load your stores.

    Beautiful hull, Walt.
    I have this little beauty which is supposed to be a shipstove. I am not sure whether I want to put a woodstove on it or not. I don't think we would use it in cold weather much.
    I put a crane on the last houseboat I built and it was a nuisance. It got in the way and bent when I lifted too big an object with it.







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    Ah well. Experience trumps fancy. It is a lovely stove, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltwood View Post
    Will I try to make it a cruising boat or just have a house on it.

    To you, what are the difference between these things? They are rather similar in my mind.
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    That is a nice little wood burner. How much does it weigh? It looks like cast iron or steel. I'd like to find a little stove like that for my little shop building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBSebens View Post
    To you, what are the difference between these things? They are rather similar in my mind.
    The house on it would be boxy and not be as good in the bay. I will post pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben2go View Post
    That is a nice little wood burner. How much does it weigh? It looks like cast iron or steel. I'd like to find a little stove like that for my little shop building.
    It is cast iron and weighs about 100 pounds. I think good ones are hard to find. I have been using Jotul #3 s in 2 of the houses I have lived in. They are great.


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    Here is what I would call the cruising version. Windows in main cabin are too big but otherwise what do you think?



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    I am not a fan of hard covers over the rear deck but otherwise it looks aswsome. Great thread.

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    Waltwood, that's a nice little stove. I like seeing them in other colors than black.

    I like that cabin design. Anything on the interior layout?
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    Here are 2 other cabin options that I will discuss more about in the design thread.






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    Quote Originally Posted by waltwood View Post
    Here are 2 other cabin options that I will discuss more about in the design thread.



    W T F? No no no no no
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    W T F? No no no no no
    I take it you don't like it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltwood View Post
    I take it you don't like it?
    Not a lot, no.

    Does not suit the concept in my eyes.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    What a great a thread. I'm really interested your design, have your oyster barge thread saved as a favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltwood View Post
    Here are 2 other cabin options that I will discuss more about in the design thread.





    I like them both, but here's my thinking. The cabin would be great for those weeks I spend on the lake with my SO. The other would be great for those long days fishing with my sons. Toss a portapotti in there along with a couple coolers and some feed. We wouldn't be seen or heard from, from dawn to dusk.
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    I wish I could find that photo of an old school shanty boat. All wood, golden colour... Large bow deck, cambered cabin top, little stern deck. Real old school, the photo was of it moored up bow to, camera off the port side from land.
    It was stunning, yet I cannot find it.

    Anyone else remember it?

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    Thanks BF for the input. That was the stove in the house I live in. Here is the stove that would go in the Houseboat if it has one.
    Walt



    It is a really small stove.

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    It's all about the view, more windows, more better.

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    I like the "houseboat" cabin more than the "cruiser" cabin design. It's a barge, the house should be bargelike.
    If you find that in general use you're taking more spray over the bow than you like, that's what canvas is for.

    It seems to me that stoves on a boat this size are an incredibly difficult balance to strike. Too large of a stove (anything that would ever be used in a house) will just eat too much space, particularly when in use. Too small and you're feeding it constantly.
    Personally I think the small stove that needs constant feeding is a better problem to have
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    Those windows would look heaps better if they had a arc to the top edge. In my humble opinion.
    See Diane rose or Thames river cruiser for inspration.
    A larger stove can be run at half heat and has a bigger window. A small stove might have to be run full blast especially if there are quite a lot of windows to loose heat out of.
    Also depends if northern or southern latitudes.

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    Those windows would look heaps better if they had a arc to the top edge. In my humble opinion.
    See Diane rose or Thames river cruiser for inspration.
    A larger stove can be run at half heat and has a bigger window. A small stove might have to be run full blast especially if there are quite a lot of inefficient windows.
    Also depends if northern or southern latitudes.

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