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    House looks nice. Fits the hull well, I think.

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    Great work as always Walt, looking good.
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    Thanks guys, made some more progress today but so cold and windy I didn't take pictures.

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    Are those fillets as huge as they look?
    Are you laying tape into the wet fillets or are you going with the two-step approach?
    A boatless inlander, searching for the meaning of life-aground.

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    Those fillets are huge. I think we used a gallon of mix to just do the bow.
    I am going put the fabric on dry fillets.

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    on my last build i stumbled onto a tool @ the infamous HF that does a wonderful job of sanding fillets

    it is a wheel/brush w/ nylon strands that are impregnated w/ abrasive grit

    http://www.harborfreight.com/4-in-80...ank-60325.html

    does a fairly well job of dealing w/ concave surfaces and recessed spaces specially ones like you pictured

    here is the finger lip on my dinghy build where i used one to remove excess pox



    if you are doing the 2-stage taping this tool might be worth the $4 and it would surely save you some time

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    That is pretty cool. I will try it. Always looking for a easier, better way to sand. HF sells a lot of junk but they also come through on others things.

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    We finished the sidewall sheathing on the port side.It really gave me a view of the completed cabin look. Used many screws to attach the top of the ply to the roof framing system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by waltwood View Post
    That is pretty cool. I will try it. Always looking for a easier, better way to sand. HF sells a lot of junk but they also come through on others things.
    A 4 inch angle grinder with a flap disc works wonders on fillets, too. It needs a very light touch and the correct angle of attack. Cuts very aggressively, beware! Looking really good. Congratulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al G View Post
    A 4 inch angle grinder with a flap disc works wonders on fillets, too. It needs a very light touch and the correct angle of attack. Cuts very aggressively, beware! Looking really good. Congratulations.
    Thanks for the compliment and suggestion.

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    I turned 60 years old this weekend and my family had a party and oyster roast at our place. It was a good time. It was funny as the guests arrived they drove by the partygoers, got out of their vehicle, and went into the bowshed to check out the progress on the houseboat. It was a hit and I got to show it to many people.

    The roof is being constructed using fiberglass fabric with a 1" polypropylene honeycomb core made by Carbon Core. It has a New scrim on both sides. It weighs .42 pounds per square foot compared to 1/2" plywood at 1.3 pounds per square feet. The roof beams are 2 feet apart which would be over spanned for 1/2" plywood. I wanted a material that was strong and lightweight but that comes with a price tag. It is something I decided I would splurge on and its done.

    I have hired a professional fabricator to help us with the job. I am relieved to have his help because he is very talented and wants us to help because the job is too large for one man. The boat roof is 11' x 25'- a sizeable fiberglass project for a professional making it daunting for someone with my experience. I like a challenge and have been excited about this phase of the project.

    The layup schedule is one layer of 24 oz. woven roving on the bottom side of the core which is applied prior to installing the panels and one layer of 24 oz. on the top followed by a layer of 3/4 oz. mat. The binder is polyester resin.

    The panels are attached to the roof beams using bonding compound by the same manufacturer. No mechanical fasteners are used. We had to weight them down. We installed the center section of panels the first day and there is very little curve in the center of the roof so it went smooth. The second day we did the 2 outside rows and it was a different story. We moved many oak blocks, steel, marble, concrete block, and more on the panels to hold them down. The bonding compound is cool. It has a hardener and grabs really well. It does not get as hard as epoxy, it has some flexibility when dry. I tried to lift up on the edge of the overhang panel using much force after 6 hours and NO movement at all. Nevertheless, we are tabbing the inside to the roof beams and running an epoxy fillet on the outside.



    Core Cell panels




    View of edge showing how its made




    Wetting out




    24 oz woven roving




    Panels 'glassed one side laid out on shop floor

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    Trimming edges




    Edges trimmed




    Grinding edges after trimming




    First row of panels installed




    Bow view with finished amount of overhang

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    Nice! Should be better for insulation and condensation than ply, as well. Cozy!

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    Will it support your weight, can you walk on it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by capehorn3 View Post
    Will it support your weight, can you walk on it ?
    After 'glassing it will hold a baby elephant. I have walked on it before 'glassing and it is questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al G View Post
    Nice! Should be better for insulation and condensation than ply, as well. Cozy!
    I never thought of the insulating value but it should provide about an R-6 to an R-8. That's great.

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    Very nice work, I'm am enjoying the updates.

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    I tried to get a friend doing a upper level on his house boat to use glass backed foam like this. Great weight saver and insulator.

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    I am going to show many pictures because I have been interested in building something with this material for sometime and maybe others have too.



    Outer panels had more curve.




    Weighting the panels down.





    Panels coerced.








    All panels completed
    Last edited by waltwood; 02-16-2017 at 04:16 PM.

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    ooooh, and leave it translucent like a UPS truck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    ooooh, and leave it translucent like a UPS truck!
    That is kinda neat but I think by the time we get the other layers it will be solid.

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    Installing dripedge on bottom of overhang. I had just finished cutting all of the panels to the contour of the cabin and radiused the corners. It was a tough job cutting 70 ft of panels 10 ft in the air. I usually set up scaffolding when I work over 8 ft high but there is not enough space in the bowshed to do that.







    Radiused dripedge corners made with putty.




    Full bow roof view







    The weather outside during this last group of pictures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltwood View Post


    The weather outside during this last group of pictures!
    That makes the shed look even better, doesn't it? The barge is looking good.

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    Excellent use and execution of carbon core.
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    that is a great use of composite!

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    Thanks and I also thought it was a good use for it. The last houseboat I built the roof was too heavy and I wanted to do better.

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    I have posted too many pictures of the roof construction but here it is completed except for paint.
    The edges were the hardest because several layers of mat had to be built up and wrapped around the drip edge and underside of overhang.
    Awful fumes and messy. Glad it is done!











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    Roof painted and done! Glad to get that part of the project finished.
    I don't post about everything I do but I am always ordering equipment or materials for the boat, planning or discussing future phases of the build with people that know stuff about boats. I am sort of treating this like a business. If I run out of materials or something to work on, it will take longer to complete. I took on this project with a strong commitment to keep it to a 12-18 month project, not including the interior. My plan has been to launch the boat and finish off the interior with it in the water. There are pros and cons to this. Being on the water is the pro side of it.
    The 8 house windows order came into Home Dept and I picked them up over the weekend. One window was broken so they had to order a replacement sash.











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    As usual Walt, solid, tight and attractive. You inspire me.

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    Looking good Walt! What sort of flashing arrangement do you plan on having over the windows?
    There is nothing quite as permanent as a good temporary repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiletto View Post
    Looking good Walt! What sort of flashing arrangement do you plan on having over the windows?
    I was going to wrap the windows with Azek trim. I would use a flashing tape at the head and side of windows over the nailing flange onto the moisture barrier (I don't know what that will be yet). I should consider putting flashing over the head trim.

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