Trad sails - good sources for small used sails?

[Thorne]

I'm looking for used sails -- a mailsail and jib or just mailsail for my Chamberlain Dory Skiff -- not currently rigged for sail so things are flexible.

Any suggestions for good sources? I should be able to find most of the lofts here in SF, but trad sail designs will be hard to find out here.

I just happen to have a friend visiting the DC/Carolinas area right now who will be driving back to SF, so I could also spring for a mast and boom/sprit or whatever.

Here's the boat -


Prefer a sprit rig, but gaff or gunter would also do. No need for anything huge, as the boat will be tender and SF can be windy -- probably loose-footed max 10' or so, other dimensions flexible.

[ 09-20-2005, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Thorne ]

[Thorne]

I'm looking for used sails -- a mailsail and jib or just mailsail for my Chamberlain Dory Skiff -- not currently rigged for sail so things are flexible.

Any suggestions for good sources? I should be able to find most of the lofts here in SF, but trad sail designs will be hard to find out here.

I just happen to have a friend visiting the DC/Carolinas area right now who will be driving back to SF, so I could also spring for a mast and boom/sprit or whatever.

Here's the boat -


Prefer a sprit rig, but gaff or gunter would also do. No need for anything huge, as the boat will be tender and SF can be windy -- probably loose-footed max 10' or so, other dimensions flexible.

[ 09-20-2005, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Thorne ]

[Thorne]

I'm looking for used sails -- a mailsail and jib or just mailsail for my Chamberlain Dory Skiff -- not currently rigged for sail so things are flexible.

Any suggestions for good sources? I should be able to find most of the lofts here in SF, but trad sail designs will be hard to find out here.

I just happen to have a friend visiting the DC/Carolinas area right now who will be driving back to SF, so I could also spring for a mast and boom/sprit or whatever.

Here's the boat -


Prefer a sprit rig, but gaff or gunter would also do. No need for anything huge, as the boat will be tender and SF can be windy -- probably loose-footed max 10' or so, other dimensions flexible.

[ 09-20-2005, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Thorne ]

[OEX]

We have some old sails here and some rigging, but nothing sprit or guther---just old jibs, etc---if you want something let us know.

Wooden Boat Rescue Foundation
WBRF

Cheers, Bruce

[OEX]

We have some old sails here and some rigging, but nothing sprit or guther---just old jibs, etc---if you want something let us know.

Wooden Boat Rescue Foundation
WBRF

Cheers, Bruce

[OEX]

We have some old sails here and some rigging, but nothing sprit or guther---just old jibs, etc---if you want something let us know.

Wooden Boat Rescue Foundation
WBRF

Cheers, Bruce

[JimConlin]

Bacon Associates in Annapolis has been brokering old sales since Hector was a pup. I recollect that there's one in CA and another in FL, but can't name 'em.

Local sailmakers might do some of this. Make some calls.

[JimConlin]

Bacon Associates in Annapolis has been brokering old sales since Hector was a pup. I recollect that there's one in CA and another in FL, but can't name 'em.

Local sailmakers might do some of this. Make some calls.

[JimConlin]

Bacon Associates in Annapolis has been brokering old sales since Hector was a pup. I recollect that there's one in CA and another in FL, but can't name 'em.

Local sailmakers might do some of this. Make some calls.

[Thorne]

Found the Sail Warehouse and Sail Exchange, but neither seem to have a field/description for non-Bermudan sail layouts, so I'll have to call.

Best bet at this time seems to be the Dynamite Parson 'boomed spritsail' that is sold to fit many of the smaller Bolger boats -- 45 sq ft or so from what I can find out.

[Thorne]

Found the Sail Warehouse and Sail Exchange, but neither seem to have a field/description for non-Bermudan sail layouts, so I'll have to call.

Best bet at this time seems to be the Dynamite Parson 'boomed spritsail' that is sold to fit many of the smaller Bolger boats -- 45 sq ft or so from what I can find out.

[Thorne]

Found the Sail Warehouse and Sail Exchange, but neither seem to have a field/description for non-Bermudan sail layouts, so I'll have to call.

Best bet at this time seems to be the Dynamite Parson 'boomed spritsail' that is sold to fit many of the smaller Bolger boats -- 45 sq ft or so from what I can find out.

[John Turpin]

These guys have always had a good selection:

Minneys

but I'm not sure about non-Bermudan sails.

[ 09-21-2005, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: John Turpin ]

[John Turpin]

These guys have always had a good selection:

Minneys

but I'm not sure about non-Bermudan sails.

[ 09-21-2005, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: John Turpin ]

[John Turpin]

These guys have always had a good selection:

Minneys

but I'm not sure about non-Bermudan sails.

[ 09-21-2005, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: John Turpin ]

[Thorne]

Minnies has one for a much larger boat -- anyone else interested?

http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/m1.html

M 16' 22' 10" 13' 2" 5 OZ DACRON HOOPS ODYSSEY V GOOD 6+ GAFF MAINSAIL 2 REEFS GAFF MEASURMENTS 7'7" 04-151 52 $195.00

Found a pic of a spritsail on a 13' dory -- just what I'm looking for:



[ 09-21-2005, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Thorne ]

[Thorne]

Minnies has one for a much larger boat -- anyone else interested?

http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/m1.html

M 16' 22' 10" 13' 2" 5 OZ DACRON HOOPS ODYSSEY V GOOD 6+ GAFF MAINSAIL 2 REEFS GAFF MEASURMENTS 7'7" 04-151 52 $195.00

Found a pic of a spritsail on a 13' dory -- just what I'm looking for:



[ 09-21-2005, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Thorne ]

[Thorne]

Minnies has one for a much larger boat -- anyone else interested?

http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/m1.html

M 16' 22' 10" 13' 2" 5 OZ DACRON HOOPS ODYSSEY V GOOD 6+ GAFF MAINSAIL 2 REEFS GAFF MEASURMENTS 7'7" 04-151 52 $195.00

Found a pic of a spritsail on a 13' dory -- just what I'm looking for:



[ 09-21-2005, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Thorne ]

[Todd Bradshaw]

The problem with finding a sail like that one, used, is that they don't turn over very much. Unless they're very serious racers, dinghy sailors tend to use their sails until they die from old age (the sails, I mean, but the same could be said for many of the sailors as well). The deciding factor in replacing one is usually that it's become too old, rotten, tattered or otherwise deteriorated to repair any longer. At that point, plugging money into one to fix it up is usually a short-lived fix and just not worth the cash involved. You really don't want to invest in one like that. You would almost need to find someone who decided that they didn't like sailing their boat and was selling the rig while it still had some life left in it and keeping the hull to row, or somebody who had decided to change sailplans and sell off the old rig.

If you're handy, that would be a pretty simple sail to build from a sail kit, or even from scratch if you're willing to sit down with a book or two and study-up on dinghy sail construction basics.

That photo also demontrates perfectly why the top few feet of Hobie Cat masts were changed from aluminum to non-conductive fiberglass a few years ago. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZaaaaaaaaaaaaPPP!

[Todd Bradshaw]

The problem with finding a sail like that one, used, is that they don't turn over very much. Unless they're very serious racers, dinghy sailors tend to use their sails until they die from old age (the sails, I mean, but the same could be said for many of the sailors as well). The deciding factor in replacing one is usually that it's become too old, rotten, tattered or otherwise deteriorated to repair any longer. At that point, plugging money into one to fix it up is usually a short-lived fix and just not worth the cash involved. You really don't want to invest in one like that. You would almost need to find someone who decided that they didn't like sailing their boat and was selling the rig while it still had some life left in it and keeping the hull to row, or somebody who had decided to change sailplans and sell off the old rig.

If you're handy, that would be a pretty simple sail to build from a sail kit, or even from scratch if you're willing to sit down with a book or two and study-up on dinghy sail construction basics.

That photo also demontrates perfectly why the top few feet of Hobie Cat masts were changed from aluminum to non-conductive fiberglass a few years ago. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZaaaaaaaaaaaaPPP!

[Todd Bradshaw]

The problem with finding a sail like that one, used, is that they don't turn over very much. Unless they're very serious racers, dinghy sailors tend to use their sails until they die from old age (the sails, I mean, but the same could be said for many of the sailors as well). The deciding factor in replacing one is usually that it's become too old, rotten, tattered or otherwise deteriorated to repair any longer. At that point, plugging money into one to fix it up is usually a short-lived fix and just not worth the cash involved. You really don't want to invest in one like that. You would almost need to find someone who decided that they didn't like sailing their boat and was selling the rig while it still had some life left in it and keeping the hull to row, or somebody who had decided to change sailplans and sell off the old rig.

If you're handy, that would be a pretty simple sail to build from a sail kit, or even from scratch if you're willing to sit down with a book or two and study-up on dinghy sail construction basics.

That photo also demontrates perfectly why the top few feet of Hobie Cat masts were changed from aluminum to non-conductive fiberglass a few years ago. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZaaaaaaaaaaaaPPP!

[Frank E. Price]

For used sails in general I've had better luck and more interest from mastheadsailinggear.com than elsewhere.

Frank

[Frank E. Price]

For used sails in general I've had better luck and more interest from mastheadsailinggear.com than elsewhere.

Frank

[Frank E. Price]

For used sails in general I've had better luck and more interest from mastheadsailinggear.com than elsewhere.

Frank

[ssor]

Originally posted by Todd Bradshaw:


That photo also demontrates perfectly why the top few feet of Hobie Cat masts were changed from aluminum to non-conductive fiberglass a few years ago. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZaaaaaaaaaaaaPPP!

There was a forty something footer that sailed into power lines on the Bush River here in Maryland 4th of July 3 or 4 years ago. Nobody killed but burned the boat to the point that there was not one piece of metal other than the propeller that was recognizable.

[ssor]

Originally posted by Todd Bradshaw:


That photo also demontrates perfectly why the top few feet of Hobie Cat masts were changed from aluminum to non-conductive fiberglass a few years ago. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZaaaaaaaaaaaaPPP!

There was a forty something footer that sailed into power lines on the Bush River here in Maryland 4th of July 3 or 4 years ago. Nobody killed but burned the boat to the point that there was not one piece of metal other than the propeller that was recognizable.

[ssor]

Originally posted by Todd Bradshaw:


That photo also demontrates perfectly why the top few feet of Hobie Cat masts were changed from aluminum to non-conductive fiberglass a few years ago. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZaaaaaaaaaaaaPPP!

There was a forty something footer that sailed into power lines on the Bush River here in Maryland 4th of July 3 or 4 years ago. Nobody killed but burned the boat to the point that there was not one piece of metal other than the propeller that was recognizable.