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    Just picked up this little project.......

    Please excuse the shelterdeck but it does make good spot for working while fitting out down below




    How she should look



    photo courtesy of http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/galle...r-wk30&cat=710

    She has a wonderful Gardner 5L3
    Built in 1950 in Scalloway, Shetland Isles according to the internet.

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    Super.

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    Are you planing to fish it or is this going to be a pleasure yacht? What sort of shape is it in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by breaker View Post
    Are you planing to fish it or is this going to be a pleasure yacht? What sort of shape is it in?
    Pleasure/pain, she appears to be in reasonable shape (I know I'm going to eat my words on that).
    She was being converted to a dive salvage boat but the PO bought a bigger one.

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    Very nice! I have always liked the hull shape of those UK draggers.

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    Wow a great project!
    What accommodation are you planning.
    Those shelters that most UK trawlers seem to have spawned look awful. I guess it is health and safety at work?!
    Where are you based?
    I would live to have a boat like that but the other half would be no more!
    I like the dickens class motor boat or the spey motor sailer on eBay at moment.
    Were you the guy asking accomodation questions of so I have beuhler boat building book if you want it.
    Cheers james

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesh View Post
    Wow a great project!
    What accommodation are you planning.
    Those shelters that most UK trawlers seem to have spawned look awful. I guess it is health and safety at work?!
    Where are you based?
    I would live to have a boat like that but the other half would be no more!
    I like the dickens class motor boat or the spey motor sailer on eBay at moment.
    Were you the guy asking accomodation questions of so I have beuhler boat building book if you want it.
    Cheers james
    Thanks
    Planning on one single cabin forward and one double in the hold along with the shower and head, the original crew quarters are still in the aft cabin, but we will be putting appliances down there.
    I think the shelterdecks come from having to stay at sea for longer, travelling further and in worse conditions, the bulwarks on her are only about 18" high.
    i haven't got Beuhlers book yet, how much do want for it?
    The boat is on the Humber but I'm currently based in Kent.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by artif View Post
    Thanks
    Planning on one single cabin forward and one double in the hold along with the shower and head, the original crew quarters are still in the aft cabin, but we will be putting appliances down there.
    I think the shelterdecks come from having to stay at sea for longer, travelling further and in worse conditions, the bulwarks on her are only about 18" high.
    i haven't got Beuhlers book yet, how much do want for it?
    The boat is on the Humber but I'm currently based in Kent.

    Cheers
    Nice hull.
    Are you going to motor her down to a berth in Kent for the conversion?
    Any thoughts about auxiliary sails?
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Nice hull.
    Are you going to motor her down to a berth in Kent for the conversion?
    Any thoughts about auxiliary sails?

    She is going to stay where she is until well in to next year, I'm very busy at my current job, but I may be getting a new job and I'm not sure where I will be based for it.

    Not sure on auxiliary sail but definitely want a steadying sail, and possibly a pair of fish.

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    Thinking of selling now, maybe.

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    Wow! Those boats are beautiful. I hope it works out well! ie I hope you have deep pockets, enormous patience and perseverance, and an enthusiastic and understanding wife!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Wow! Those boats are beautiful. I hope it works out well! ie I hope you have deep pockets, enormous patience and perseverance, and an enthusiastic and understanding wife!
    Thanks
    I have 2 1/2 out of 4, deep pockets are also empty and SWMBO is very understanding but not so enthusiastic.
    It s going to be a work boat finish, not yacht finish (tried that before).

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    Making some sawdust today, with the help of a shy apprentice.
    The start of the raised coahroof over the fish hold, to give me some headroom and a sunbathing platform for SWMBO
    Some oak beams and bit of Larch for the fore n aft ends


    A bit more work on some knees



    Neighbours are happy too, as they have plenty of sawdust for the woodburner

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    A little bit of good news (for me at least). I've just found her on the Historic ships register, so I've sent some updates to the NHSUK. Also means I can get a Defaced Ensign, that'll make the yacht club choke on their G&T.

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    Reminds me a little of the fishing tugs here on the Great Lakes. I've often thought these sheltered decks look like some sort of add on as well.

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    Another busy weekend

    Cutting big lumps out of the deck



    and filling them in again


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    Time for a little update. Not much progress, due to holidays and a gearbox replacement on the 110.

    Forward hatch in place but not yet fully fixed.


    Some "temporary" stairs, built to last a couple of decades until I fit the real ones.


    And finally, a gratuitous Gardner shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by artif View Post

    Hey Artif, good to see you working on your boat and posting. That is a very nice looking hatch; what is the wood?

    Can I come and play with your engine some time?

    Please, I'm squeamish as hell; no more mashed flappy thumb photos!

    Interesting junction box on the bulkhead..

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    Thanks, the box sides are Teak (ex chemistry lab desks) and the top planks?? are I think Sapele (ex university entrance hall paneling).
    You can play with the engine anytime.
    I hope not to post any more damaged appendages but I'm sure there will be more.
    One of many "interesting" electrical installations, however that is one of several that got removed over christmas.

    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Hey Artif, good to see you working on your boat and posting. That is a very nice looking hatch; what is the wood?

    Can I come and play with your engine some time?

    Please, I'm squeamish as hell; no more mashed flappy thumb photos!

    Interesting junction box on the bulkhead..

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    TBH the real shipwrights I know will only use American white oak for interior work. English Oak is reserved for structural boat bits. The oak I tested was certainly English Oak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artif View Post
    TBH the real shipwrights I know will only use American white oak for interior work. English Oak is reserved for structural boat bits. The oak I tested was certainly English Oak.
    White oak... only for interior work? please explain... it is the wood of choice for framing and keels here in NE due to its natural rotresistence and long strength...

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    Deck hatch nearing completion, and despite my dislike of the stuff, I have sheathed it in glass and goop, just needs a few more coats of varnish to finish. I'm trying to keep the varnish to easily removable bits. Please excuse the dust covering it.

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    Pm me your address and I will send it. Also see this bookhttps://wordery.com/wooden-fishing-boats-of-scotland-james-a-pottinger-9780752487571?currency=GBP&gtrck=blBRNzRSdG1PZE9Ta 21sZkZpdFZaNUFRdUVhbE4rS3FRVU5SUEl2UEV5d29FR3VEbUx NTUpncVNVU0NPNWlLalFtK0pUZzZKUW90K3ZSZG4waE1Hb2c9P Q&gclid=Cj0KEQiAsZayBRCrioKRkYetvc0BEiQAI70-A-TKA0AIvIuFAxMY-B7nH4Kz5Ialadoe-uxARUziJesaAk3X8P8HAQ
    Cheers James

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    What engine? Is she larch on oak? Where/when was she built?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hwyl View Post
    What engine? Is she larch on oak? Where/when was she built?
    Details in first post.

    Larch on Oak, built in Scalloway, Shetlands according to the internet
    The Jewel in the crown is the Gardner 5L3

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    Quote Originally Posted by artif View Post
    The Jewel in the crown is the Gardner 5L3
    what a lovely lump that is!

    congrats on the new project looks interesting
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    A bit more done this weekend.......


    Forward deck hatch in place, just need to finish it off now.


    Slowly cutting bits of the shelter deck off to get access to remove junk, but the weather has been awful so it will have to stay a bit longer yet


    View from down below

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    A real one ! Congratulations, she will be wonderful!
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    Beautiful boat! Congratulations! I nearly died of fright when I saw the first photo but she really looks terrific in the second!

    Rick

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    A lovely toy indeed, I'll be another watching your progress with interest. Wishing you great times ahead with her.
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    Wow. A proper boat with a proper engine! Excellent!
    Those enclosures are ugly as hell, and must add a lot of windage; I've never worked on a trawler but if I had I'd sure be glad of them though, sea sickness not-withstanding.

    These guys in Ireland for Gardner engines http://www.tangentengineering.co.uk/live/?gclid=CjwKEAiA1JuyBRCogJLz4J71kj0SJADsd6QRr_z2WCG jx9hNp8pwEZj2asFJP28GddOzaJ8bK4LAUhoC5-3w_wcB


    These guys are in Canterbury, a bit closer to you.. http://www.gardnermarine.com/

    Keep us posted on progress!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Wow. A proper boat with a proper engine! Excellent!
    Those enclosures are ugly as hell, and must add a lot of windage; I've never worked on a trawler but if I had I'd sure be glad of them though, sea sickness not-withstanding.

    These guys in Ireland for Gardner engines http://www.tangentengineering.co.uk/live/?gclid=CjwKEAiA1JuyBRCogJLz4J71kj0SJADsd6QRr_z2WCG jx9hNp8pwEZj2asFJP28GddOzaJ8bK4LAUhoC5-3w_wcB


    These guys are in Canterbury, a bit closer to you.. http://www.gardnermarine.com/

    Keep us posted on progress!
    I've done a couple of trips on a 40' gil netter, first one was in a F9 out past the Scillies, a shelter deck would have made it quite a bit more pleasant.

    Thanks for the links, I was aware of the one in Canterbury but not the Irish one.

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    Starting a new forward deck hatch and was going to make something similar to this--
    When I say similar I mean a flat topped hatch with either prism or windows in, anyone have any tips or tricks with making it reasonably water tight, other than the obvious foam strip around the hatch lid opening.



    Photo from Kentish Maid restoration http://www.tonygrove.com/articles/ne...sh-maid-p2.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by artif View Post
    Starting a new forward deck hatch and was going to make something similar to this--
    When I say similar I mean a flat topped hatch with either prism or windows in, anyone have any tips or tricks with making it reasonably water tight, other than the obvious foam strip around the hatch lid opening.



    Photo from Kentish Maid restoration http://www.tonygrove.com/articles/ne...sh-maid-p2.php
    A foam strip may seem obvious, but is equally hopeless as a means of keeping water out. You need a double walled hatchway, the inner lip being higher than the outer, and a good sized drainage channel between them. The hatch rests on the outer rim, some water gets between hatch and rim, but that water drains harmlessly away out onto the deck through limber holes. This construction has a name, which I can't recall ATM but someone will and then you can google it.

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    The Maurice Griffith "leak proof " hatch.



    Don Kuryllco's version.



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