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    Work has slowed to a crawl due to other commitments. The stage floor in the parish hall of my church needed rebuilding and, silly me, I volunteered. That pretty much shoots this week and next, then we're off for four days to go to my son's wedding. Once back, I'm having heat pumps installed in my house, so that will clutter things up a bit.
    But, in-between all this, I've been working on getting all the electric wires run for the motor/battery banks.
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    I've got the electric all hooked up. In this photo you see the original speed control head for the motor. I've got two banks of batteries with a switch to go back and forth. Thing on the right is for the battery monitor. I hooked everything up and the motor runs, so all is well.

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    Rich found this on VTCL. It is glass but might be of interest as it appears to use a trolling motor for power. I like the ability to tilt the motor up out of the way. Also like the canopy/cover. Some good ideas there.
    https://vermont.craigslist.org/boa/6153936409.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldad View Post
    Rich found this on VTCL. It is glass but might be of interest as it appears to use a trolling motor for power. I like the ability to tilt the motor up out of the way. Also like the canopy/cover. Some good ideas there.
    https://vermont.craigslist.org/boa/6153936409.html
    Nice looking little boat. I wonder what the top speed is with that standard trolling prop?
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    After two weeks of no progress, I'm at it again. My son's wedding was awesome and I can now get back to work.
    Today I wet-sanded the decks and seats with Daly's Seafin Oil. One more wet-sanding with the oil should fill the grain and make a good base for the varnish. The only bother with that stuff is that, after wiping it down, little glossy spots pop up and they have to be re-rubbed to get rid to them. This goes on and on for hours after applying the Daly's. I've read about this and the spots have to wiped down or you'll see those spots through your final finish. I also put on the final coat of white primer on the hull. Things are going to start getting shiny pretty soon with gloss varnish and gloss white paint! In order to make varnishing easier, I'll put a few coats on before installing the coamings.



    I've got to collect all my receipts and head off to the Motor Vehicle Dept soon to get this boat registered. Hope it's not too much of a pain. It wasn't 15 years ago, the last time I registered a home-built boat.
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    Rich, I found it easier to go to Montpelier to register a homebuilt boat than to my local DMV office. The clerk at the local insisted that I list a seller on the registration application and that bugged me so I went to Montpelier and they just went ahead with no problems. Have you applied for a HIN yet? The DMV sent an officer to my house to inspect the boat before they would issue an HIN. They did that with each new build.
    As far as that boat on CL, I would love to see how they handled the tip up of the motor, steering, etc. I still have not tried a model plane prop on mine.
    And congratulations on your son's wedding. Must have been a fun time.
    PS, your boat is looking great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldad View Post
    Rich, I found it easier to go to Montpelier to register a homebuilt boat than to my local DMV office. The clerk at the local insisted that I list a seller on the registration application and that bugged me so I went to Montpelier and they just went ahead with no problems. Have you applied for a HIN yet? The DMV sent an officer to my house to inspect the boat before they would issue an HIN. They did that with each new build.
    As far as that boat on CL, I would love to see how they handled the tip up of the motor, steering, etc. I still have not tried a model plane prop on mine.
    And congratulations on your son's wedding. Must have been a fun time.
    PS, your boat is looking great.
    I registered my Devlin stitch and glue boat probably 15 years ago here in Vermont. Since I wasn't living here at the time, I believe I did it by mail. They issued the HIN without an onsite inspection. I'll try the local office first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldad View Post
    Rich found this on VTCL. It is glass but might be of interest as it appears to use a trolling motor for power. I like the ability to tilt the motor up out of the way. Also like the canopy/cover. Some good ideas there.
    https://vermont.craigslist.org/boa/6153936409.html
    I looked at their website and found it encouraging that a commercially built launch is powered by a common trolling motor. Their 16' boat is powered by a 36 volt 112 lb. thrust motor and drives the boat at 6 mph. Mine is only 80 lb. with a slightly longer waterline. Looks like they are using a standard prop also. It gives me confidence that if I'm not satisfied with my existing got-for-free motor, I can upgrade to the larger one.
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    The hull painting is now complete and I've got two coats of varnish on the decks. The seats are being done with Sikkens Cetol Teak Finish since I think that will be an easier finish to repair. It will not doubt suffer from the occasional ding here and there. I've got two coats of the matt finish on and will top it off with a gloss coat or two.
    I'll be putting the coamings on next week. As you can see from the photo, the rest of my fleet patiently awaits me.
    I'm going to a surgeon next week to see about a bothersome hernia I have that's getting worse. Hopefully, it won't screw up my entire summer...



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    Rich - she is looking gorgeous! Hope the hernia thing is not serious. Let us know how the appt. goes.
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    Beyond beautiful, Rich. Oh,hernia, no fun. Three for me, hopefully no more. Don't let it keep you from Mystic.

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    Man --she looks great.

    Hoping the hernia turns out as well as it can for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I looked at their website and found it encouraging that a commercially built launch is powered by a common trolling motor. Their 16' boat is powered by a 36 volt 112 lb. thrust motor and drives the boat at 6 mph. Mine is only 80 lb. with a slightly longer waterline. Looks like they are using a standard prop also. It gives me confidence that if I'm not satisfied with my existing got-for-free motor, I can upgrade to the larger one.

    Rich Lady Jane is looking great. Hope your not the jealous type, she may be getting all sorts of glances and cat calls as you cruise the lake.

    thinking about your power plant...when you re motor, I wonder about the possibility of putting in a traditional shaft and prop and remotoring with a antique DC motor...

    so often the heart of a launch is the power plant, gives the people who are in the launch and cant really enjoy it's beauty as well something to look at and tinker with.

    I'm thinking something partially exposed, amidships, with some polished copper or beautiful cast housing...

    or

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldad View Post
    Beyond beautiful, Rich. Oh,hernia, no fun. Three for me, hopefully no more. Don't let it keep you from Mystic.
    This will be hernia surgery #4 for me if it happens. I've been under the surgeon's knife for five other surgeries (all orthopedic). I'm getting a little sick and tired of these guys... Mystic not going to happen again this year. We've got a graduation party to attend.
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    It's been a good day. I went to get the boat registered and the DMV gods were smiling down upon me. Walked in and was immediately taken care of. I handed the clerk (a nice perky young woman) all the forms needed, my sales receipts for materials and pictures of the boat. Walked out 30 minutes later with my HIN (Hull Identification Number) and my registration. I'll even have a Title of ownership for the boat. No need for a onsite inspection, either. I would have been out of there sooner but the staff very rarely deals with homebuilt boats, so they were scratching their heads over a few things that took some time to figure out.
    Now it's time to make two boards to put the registration numbers on. I'll mount them on the bow with screws instead of sticking the numbers directly to the boat. That will make re-painting the boat easier. The HIN sticker is supposed to be affixed to the transom. But, just where is the 'transom' on a fantail stern? Since it's an unsightly thing, I'll stick the HIN down where the motor tube exits the hull.
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    You coulda asked then where it goes on a fantail! That would've really gotten some head scratching started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    You coulda asked then where it goes on a fantail! That would've really gotten some head scratching started.
    Sheesh... If I'd built a true double ender, their heads really would have exploded!!
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    Glad you had no troubles Rich, very different here even tho all in the same state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldad View Post
    Glad you had no troubles Rich, very different here even tho all in the same state.
    It sure does depend on who you get, eh?

    Years ago & different state: In CT you used to (may still have to) get the car inspected @ registration. A friend & I went down to register his recently restored (except for paint) XK150 Jag. It had disc brakes & the emergency brake on them was notoriously bad. The inspector made him pull up on the handle, put it in first & engage the clutch. The car moved a few feet & stalled. "Nope - doesn't pass, bad emergency brake". He waited the required week, went back & several blocks away from motor vehicle, stopped & tightened the brake up until the car would barely move. He then drove to MV, the (different) inspector came out, Dave pulled up on the E Brake handle & the inspector said "Yep - it clicks & stays - you're good", inspected everything else & passed him.
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    Back in 1990 when I finished my 20' gaff rigged stadel pilot sloop in New York State, it was required to have an inspector come out and check the boat. He would then assign you a HIN on the spot and engrave it on the upper starboard side of the transom. He took one look at that beautiful mahogany wineglass transom glowing with ten coats of varnish and said " No way am I carving into that beautiful piece of work!" Instead, he put it just under the water line. Nice guy. It probably helped that he was a friend of a friend.
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    I'm finally getting around to installing the oak coamings I steam bent months ago. Here's the forward section wedged into place.



    and screwed in place for good. Hopefully tomorrow will see the aft and middle sections in place.

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    I installed the aft section of coaming today and made the templates for the mid sections. First, I cut a piece of lauan (a few inches short), tacked it in place and scribed it to the sweep of the shear. Then planed small pieces of pine to the thickness of the coaming and fit these to the ends of the lauan. Glued and clamped overnight and I should have a perfect template after a little shaping of the pine end pieces.
    Tomorrow, I cut oak!
    I'm also making up the lettering boards to mount the registration numbers.



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    OK, I had a really productive two days. Lots of work in those coamings, but it's very satisfying to see it done.
    Here's one of the patterns laid out on the oak blank.



    After a lot of noodling around to make everything flow and be pleasing to the eye, the pieces were fastened in place for good. Screw holes have been plugged and clamps on the glued joints will come off tomorrow.



    Last chore of the day was to make oarlock pads. The original boats had oars as backup propulsion as will mine.
    They are all shaped and ready to go. Tomorrow, I'll bore the holes for the oarlocks and glue/screw them into place.



    Next up will be making and steaming the 1/2"x3/4" molding that will go around the outside edge of the coamings.
    But, that's enough for today.
    The sun has just set over our woods and it's time to rest.

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