This will be hernia surgery #4 for me if it happens. I've been under the surgeon's knife for five other surgeries (all orthopedic). I'm getting a little sick and tired of these guys... Mystic not going to happen again this year. We've got a graduation party to attend.
14th Star: 18' Palmer Fantail Launch
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This will be hernia surgery #4 for me if it happens. I've been under the surgeon's knife for five other surgeries (all orthopedic). I'm getting a little sick and tired of these guys... Mystic not going to happen again this year. We've got a graduation party to attend.I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.
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It's been a good day. I went to get the boat registered and the DMV gods were smiling down upon me. Walked in and was immediately taken care of. I handed the clerk (a nice perky young woman) all the forms needed, my sales receipts for materials and pictures of the boat. Walked out 30 minutes later with my HIN (Hull Identification Number) and my registration. I'll even have a Title of ownership for the boat. No need for a onsite inspection, either. I would have been out of there sooner but the staff very rarely deals with homebuilt boats, so they were scratching their heads over a few things that took some time to figure out.
Now it's time to make two boards to put the registration numbers on. I'll mount them on the bow with screws instead of sticking the numbers directly to the boat. That will make re-painting the boat easier. The HIN sticker is supposed to be affixed to the transom. But, just where is the 'transom' on a fantail stern? Since it's an unsightly thing, I'll stick the HIN down where the motor tube exits the hull.I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.
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Years ago & different state: In CT you used to (may still have to) get the car inspected @ registration. A friend & I went down to register his recently restored (except for paint) XK150 Jag. It had disc brakes & the emergency brake on them was notoriously bad. The inspector made him pull up on the handle, put it in first & engage the clutch. The car moved a few feet & stalled. "Nope - doesn't pass, bad emergency brake". He waited the required week, went back & several blocks away from motor vehicle, stopped & tightened the brake up until the car would barely move. He then drove to MV, the (different) inspector came out, Dave pulled up on the E Brake handle & the inspector said "Yep - it clicks & stays - you're good", inspected everything else & passed him.Last edited by Garret; 06-16-2017, 07:16 PM."If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red GreenComment
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Back in 1990 when I finished my 20' gaff rigged stadel pilot sloop in New York State, it was required to have an inspector come out and check the boat. He would then assign you a HIN on the spot and engrave it on the upper starboard side of the transom. He took one look at that beautiful mahogany wineglass transom glowing with ten coats of varnish and said " No way am I carving into that beautiful piece of work!" Instead, he put it just under the water line. Nice guy. It probably helped that he was a friend of a friend.I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.
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I'm finally getting around to installing the oak coamings I steam bent months ago. Here's the forward section wedged into place.
and screwed in place for good. Hopefully tomorrow will see the aft and middle sections in place.
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I installed the aft section of coaming today and made the templates for the mid sections. First, I cut a piece of lauan (a few inches short), tacked it in place and scribed it to the sweep of the shear. Then planed small pieces of pine to the thickness of the coaming and fit these to the ends of the lauan. Glued and clamped overnight and I should have a perfect template after a little shaping of the pine end pieces.
Tomorrow, I cut oak!
I'm also making up the lettering boards to mount the registration numbers.
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OK, I had a really productive two days. Lots of work in those coamings, but it's very satisfying to see it done.
Here's one of the patterns laid out on the oak blank.
After a lot of noodling around to make everything flow and be pleasing to the eye, the pieces were fastened in place for good. Screw holes have been plugged and clamps on the glued joints will come off tomorrow.
Last chore of the day was to make oarlock pads. The original boats had oars as backup propulsion as will mine.
They are all shaped and ready to go. Tomorrow, I'll bore the holes for the oarlocks and glue/screw them into place.
Next up will be making and steaming the 1/2"x3/4" molding that will go around the outside edge of the coamings.
But, that's enough for today.
The sun has just set over our woods and it's time to rest.
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I'm in need of Emergency Propulsion Units (a pair of oars).
They have to be cut in half in order to store them in the lockers. Rather then buy a nice pair of oars, and to save $$$, I decided to make my own cheapo set. No need for beauty, just function.
A while back, someone suggested these carbon fiber connectors from Duckworks made just that this purpose.
I had some air-dried white ash hanging around the shop doing nothing, so I used that for the shafts. Three laminates, the center one being 9/16" to match the thickness of the blade. The outer laminates will go on either side of the blade. Ripped the pieces, glued and clamped. I'll give them a couple of days to dry, then start shaping them. They'll be rounded in the usual way. Blades will be two pieces of 1/4" marine fir ply glued together with edges tapered. The ply is actually just a hair over 1/4" (no doubt metric something or other) and thus add up to the 9/16" thickness mentioned above. Oars will be 8' in length. I'll slop on a couple of coats of white paint and call them done. Hopefully, they'll live their entire life below decks and never see the light of day.
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I fiddled around with the oars again today. Also chiseled off all the bungs covering the screw holes on the cockpit coamings. Sanded them nice and smooth. I still have some more edge planing and sanding to make the coamings just so.
Anyway, back to the oars. Here's the shaft sections taken to eight sides with 16 sides, 32 sides and planing to round to come tomorrow. Also laid my blade pattern on the glued up blade. Blade size and shape was determined by the highly scientific method of "Yeah, that looks about right...).
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Greetings,
The H.I.N. has to be 'permanently affixed at the transom on starboard side under the gunwale preferably above the waterline (clearly visible when the boat is in the water, beneath a fitting or item of hardware). Permanently affixed means that if an attempt is made to modify the HIN it would be obvious. It is often burned, etched, carved, or stamped. There is a minimum fonts size I forgot the font size number but it is equal to 1/4 of an inch.
A duplicate if often placed in a concealed location called the 'hidden HIN'. it is often found on a power boat inside a locker near the helm station, and on a sailboat inside a storage compartment in the V-berth, they are often in larger size font painted or written with a marker and then glassed over to meet the permanently affixed requirements.
The HIN is becoming more and more important especially since 2009 now that the police is using it to identify stolen boats, the insurance also now rely on it to positively identify the particular vessel they are insuring.
So you could have difficulties insuring or selling the boat if the HIN is not compliant.
On a fantail the HIN would be just to starboard of centerline or on starboard where the fantail ends and the topsides become parallel to each other.
Cheers,
AlainLast edited by Coyote24; 06-27-2017, 09:42 PM.Comment
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Re: 14th Star: 18' Palmer Fantail Launch
Greetings,
The H.I.N. has to be 'permanently affixed at the transom on starboard side under the gunwale preferably above the waterline (clearly visible when the boat is in the water, beneath a fitting or item of hardware). Permanently affixed means that if an attempt is made to modify the HIN it would be obvious. It is often burned, etched, carved, or stamped. There is a minimum fonts size I forgot the font size number but it is equal to 1/4 of an inch.
A duplicate if often placed in a concealed location called the 'hidden HIN'. it is often found on a power boat inside a locker near the helm station, and on a sailboat inside a storage compartment in the V-berth, they are often in larger size font painted or written with a marker and then glassed over to meet the permanently affixed requirements.
The HIN is becoming more and more important especially since 2009 now that the police is using it to identify stolen boats, the insurance also now rely on it to positively identify the particular vessel they are insuring.
So you could have difficulties insuring or selling the boat if the HIN is not compliant.
On a fantail the HIN would be just to starboard of centerline or on starboard where the fantail ends and the topsides become parallel to each other.
Cheers,
AlainI was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.
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Good evening,
As a surveyor if there is no HIN the vessel is un-insurable or available for financing without further inspection. the 'ugly' sticker can simply be glassed over as a hidden HIN.
The HIM needs to be 'engraved' in some way.
The USA registration no. on the bow is the equivalent of a car licence plate nothing else. no ownership or boat information or ownership history.
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