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    Then we dropped the starboard rudder to get it out of the way of the drive shaft.



    Another good sight:




    We polished up the shafts to give ourselves the best chance of moving them through the various seals and bushes they would have to traverse.



    And took the nuts off the cutlass bearing.



    Then we gave the shaft some love taps with a large sledge hammer from the engine bay end. No movement whatsoever. It turns freely, but it won't move linearly.

    Any advice at this point very welcome!

    By the way, it was 41C today (around 105F). It's definitely beer o'clock!

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    Looking at the photos the last place that could be holding the shaft the dirt on the shaft ahead of the prop shaft bracket. One way of freeing it up would to put a bit of washing up liquid into the cutlass bearing and the same in the bearing in the hull shaft log and give that a try.

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    Thanks Simon.

    Well, we tried everything, including lube, no dice. In the end we determined that the shafts were seized in the shaft brackets just before the screws. So we dropped the bolts out of the hull where they are mounted and took the whole assembly out.

    Here are a few pics.

    Port bracket mounting bolts free:



    Starboard tube and cutlass bearing:



    Starboard shaft:



    Starboard log:



    Starboard bracket mounting points:



    Cheers,
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    Inner shaft log halves, port and starboard (with port and starboard shoes to match) :



    Starboard planking under the shaft log:



    Same thing, port side:



    Port outside shaft log half this morning, after drying out over night:



    All a bit sad, really!

    The good news is that the tubes seem really good.

    Cheers,
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    Good thing to get that mess out of your boat!

    Some fresh timbers, shafts and bracket bearings, and a little cleaning, and you should be on your way!

    I used a water cooled dripless shaft seal instead of the packing nut and gland. Not a drop of water comes in there.

    http://www.shaftseal.com/en/categories

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    Thanks again, Scott. I might just grab some of those dripless seals.

    More progress.

    Rudder shafts out.



    One of them bent (reckon the passengers would have noticed when this happened. ):



    OK, time to take the side decks off to get rid of some rot, and to expose the ribs. Keep an eye on that little upward curved section taking the side deck up to the raised foredeck.



    Trusty multitool at work.






    More later.

    Cheers,
    John.

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    Well, well, well...



    Nearly there:





    The section where the side deck curves up to meet the raised foredeck. Turns out that wasn't original:



    Cheers,
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    Great progress!! I bet you'll be able to sleep much easier with those shaft logs replaced.

    Nice little find with those side decks.

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    Yes Ned, thanks. How's your boat coming along?

    More progress. This is turning into a project of the scale of Jim's Harbour Master Special...









    I could probably take those fenders off her at this point. Funny how you don't even notice stuff until you see them in a photo.

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    Ribs removed (doing every second one to start with, then we'll do the others when the planks are secure).





    Grown knee centre of transom:



    Port side hanging knee:



    Starboard hanging knee (might have to go, but fingers crossed):



    Above the starboard knee:




    More destruction tomorrow.

    Regards,
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    Holy Mouses!! you`re makeing great progress, keep up the pace, if you can, and you`ll soon be putting things back together! Great work!

    Greetings from Germany,

    Alan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquinian View Post
    This is turning into a project of the scale of Jim's Harbour Master Special...
    Boats of a... ahem.... certain age have a habit of doing that.

    Don't give up now you're making great progress. Things are going to start looking much better when you've got a few new frames knocked in.

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    Jayses, you renovator blokes are brave, some of best threads yours and Jim's. Keep your chin up John. I know I'd be letting it get to me seeing all those rotten bits and the hard work.
    thanks for documenting

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    Thanks guys. Hoping to get some ribs in this week. I agree - it will provide a morale boost!

    Cheers,
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    Jim says buy a new toy and everything works out.

    So...



    Our Aussie members will recognise this:



    A shed-load better than the nasty GMC one it's replacing!

    A little rusty on the table.



    Cleaned up:




    The fence has a stripped thread. We'll get that sorted tomorrow and we're in business.

    Cheers,
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    Looks like you are getting plenty done over the Christmas break.

    Seems you removed quite a few ribs all at once? How are you going putting the new ones back in? I thought to keep the shape you might be need to replace every second rib then go back and repeat the process. I thought I'd heard something about doing the ribs on either side at the same time as well being a good practice. I had a re-read through a few pages of chucks Concordia rebuild, he tries a few techniques around page 24. But I couldn't see the bit i thought I had read about replacing every second rib...

    I did see a good video on the off centre harbour site where they replace ribs in an classic sailing boat if you have a subscription to that site.
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    Thanks Simon, yes we're doing every second one, and then going back to do the others after the first lot are clinched in.

    No, we got no Christmas break except for Christmas Day! We had a couple of major client emergencies (a gold plant had its main conveyor drive motor feeding the crusher blow up and they told us the down time was costing them $60k per hour). We got them up and running three days later. They're grateful, and we're needing a holiday!

    Cheers,
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    Collecting a few fixings!



    Starboard engine logs out.
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    Maybe my wife knows something I don't, because she bought this for me for Christmas.




    Regards,
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    Is that the 406 shape that was new in 2000? I remember thinking when they first appeared that they were the nicest looking new car on the road. Simple elegant shape.

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    That's it, Matt. Pininfarina design. Poor man's Ferrari.

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    Frames going in:











    Jake learning a second trade...



    Cheers,
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    Those new ribs are looking nice. (Ok,... And those old ones are a bit scary too!)

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    Hey Mate, You getting a bit done recently or over the upcoming school holidays? What's the device being held with the spring in it, looks like something to do with the rove nails?

    I like the look of those Ribs too, have the planks opened up much now that they are dried out?

    Guessing you may have to recaulk if the caulking falls out when the planks shrink....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nedL View Post
    Those new ribs are looking nice. (Ok,... And those old ones are a bit scary too!)
    You can say that again!
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    Shame all the pictures have disappeared, silly photo bucket. How's the boat going these days anyway?
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    Hello all,

    News regarding Nokomis. Two blokes have taken her on. One is a joiner, the other an all-rounder with some carpentry skills. Tom, and Matt. They seem to be very serious and excited about completing the project. They have had her professionally moved, to a yard of their own, and started work already. Some photos.
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    With palm tree. Obviously a good omen.

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    They have already “found” me and have been asking questions.

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    Will there be an option for following their rebuild?
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    Ned, I guess that's what happens if you show your expertise here.

    Ben, I understand that the guys are intending to update this thread, but we'll see. If they don't, I will be visiting them occasionally out of interest, and I will update here with their permission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquinian View Post
    Ned, I guess that's what happens if you show your expertise here.

    Ben, I understand that the guys are intending to update this thread, but we'll see. If they don't, I will be visiting them occasionally out of interest, and I will update here with their permission.

    Sounds good.
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    So with the big stink boat off your hands, what next? Back to sail?

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