Blades for hand plane

[Tom Lathrop]

I'm looking for good blades with chip breakers for wooden hand planes.

I plan to teach a class with local woodworkers in building a hand plane. Having a problem locating a source for reasonably priced blades. There is the Hock, of course, but at $41 they are a bit $ for a first time beginner at tool making. There are also English imports but they are $58 and the chip breaker is about $30 on top of that. Garrett Wade has a suitable 1 7/8" blade blade at $18 but the manufacturer (in the Czech Republic) has discontinued them. They do have some 2 3/8" blades but they are way too wide for a small plane.

Please don't advise cutting them down.

Anybody know of any other sources? I've been searching but have come up with no likely alternatives.

I need about 7 or 8 sets and I would prefer blades that are 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" wide.

[ 10-26-2004, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Tom Lathrop ]

[Tom Lathrop]

I'm looking for good blades with chip breakers for wooden hand planes.

I plan to teach a class with local woodworkers in building a hand plane. Having a problem locating a source for reasonably priced blades. There is the Hock, of course, but at $41 they are a bit $ for a first time beginner at tool making. There are also English imports but they are $58 and the chip breaker is about $30 on top of that. Garrett Wade has a suitable 1 7/8" blade blade at $18 but the manufacturer (in the Czech Republic) has discontinued them. They do have some 2 3/8" blades but they are way too wide for a small plane.

Please don't advise cutting them down.

Anybody know of any other sources? I've been searching but have come up with no likely alternatives.

I need about 7 or 8 sets and I would prefer blades that are 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" wide.

[ 10-26-2004, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Tom Lathrop ]

[Tom Lathrop]

I'm looking for good blades with chip breakers for wooden hand planes.

I plan to teach a class with local woodworkers in building a hand plane. Having a problem locating a source for reasonably priced blades. There is the Hock, of course, but at $41 they are a bit $ for a first time beginner at tool making. There are also English imports but they are $58 and the chip breaker is about $30 on top of that. Garrett Wade has a suitable 1 7/8" blade blade at $18 but the manufacturer (in the Czech Republic) has discontinued them. They do have some 2 3/8" blades but they are way too wide for a small plane.

Please don't advise cutting them down.

Anybody know of any other sources? I've been searching but have come up with no likely alternatives.

I need about 7 or 8 sets and I would prefer blades that are 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" wide.

[ 10-26-2004, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Tom Lathrop ]

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Have you tried Lee Valley?

Steven

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Have you tried Lee Valley?

Steven

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Have you tried Lee Valley?

Steven

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Yup, they've got 'em:



A. 1-3/4" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.03 $ 29.50

2" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.04 $ 30.50

2-3/8" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.05 $ 32.50

2-5/8" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.06 $ 34.50

B. 1-5/8" Block Plane Blade,
7/16" slot
19P20.02 $ 28.50

1-5/8" Block Plane Blade, 5/8" slot
19P20.09 $ 28.50

C. 2-1/8" x 1-7/8" Spokeshave Blade
19P20.07 $ 24.50

D. 1-3/8" Block Plane Blade,
7/16" slot
19P20.01 $ 26.00

1-3/8" Block Plane Blade, 5/8" slot
19P20.08 $ 26.00

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,41182,43698

Or maybe you could find some old ones at Hulls Cove tool Barn in Bar Harbor.

Good luck,

Steven

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Yup, they've got 'em:



A. 1-3/4" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.03 $ 29.50

2" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.04 $ 30.50

2-3/8" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.05 $ 32.50

2-5/8" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.06 $ 34.50

B. 1-5/8" Block Plane Blade,
7/16" slot
19P20.02 $ 28.50

1-5/8" Block Plane Blade, 5/8" slot
19P20.09 $ 28.50

C. 2-1/8" x 1-7/8" Spokeshave Blade
19P20.07 $ 24.50

D. 1-3/8" Block Plane Blade,
7/16" slot
19P20.01 $ 26.00

1-3/8" Block Plane Blade, 5/8" slot
19P20.08 $ 26.00

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,41182,43698

Or maybe you could find some old ones at Hulls Cove tool Barn in Bar Harbor.

Good luck,

Steven

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Yup, they've got 'em:



A. 1-3/4" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.03 $ 29.50

2" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.04 $ 30.50

2-3/8" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.05 $ 32.50

2-5/8" x 7" Hock Plane Blade
19P20.06 $ 34.50

B. 1-5/8" Block Plane Blade,
7/16" slot
19P20.02 $ 28.50

1-5/8" Block Plane Blade, 5/8" slot
19P20.09 $ 28.50

C. 2-1/8" x 1-7/8" Spokeshave Blade
19P20.07 $ 24.50

D. 1-3/8" Block Plane Blade,
7/16" slot
19P20.01 $ 26.00

1-3/8" Block Plane Blade, 5/8" slot
19P20.08 $ 26.00

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,41182,43698

Or maybe you could find some old ones at Hulls Cove tool Barn in Bar Harbor.

Good luck,

Steven

[Bruce Hooke]

If you are looking for lower cost blades and chip breakers what about contacting Stanley Tools about getting "replacements". A few weeks back someone posted their listing of replacement parts here on the forum, which seemed to indicate that they sell replacement parts directly to the end user. If they do not then you might try contacting a woodworking supply place that sells Stanley planes and asking them about getting you the parts as a special order. The reason I am focusing on Stanley is that their planes are quite common so replacement parts are more likely to be in circulation. Heck, now that I think of it, have you checked at your local hardware store to see if they sell replacement irons and chip breakers. The latter are probably less likely to be at your local hardware store than the former.

[Bruce Hooke]

If you are looking for lower cost blades and chip breakers what about contacting Stanley Tools about getting "replacements". A few weeks back someone posted their listing of replacement parts here on the forum, which seemed to indicate that they sell replacement parts directly to the end user. If they do not then you might try contacting a woodworking supply place that sells Stanley planes and asking them about getting you the parts as a special order. The reason I am focusing on Stanley is that their planes are quite common so replacement parts are more likely to be in circulation. Heck, now that I think of it, have you checked at your local hardware store to see if they sell replacement irons and chip breakers. The latter are probably less likely to be at your local hardware store than the former.

[Bruce Hooke]

If you are looking for lower cost blades and chip breakers what about contacting Stanley Tools about getting "replacements". A few weeks back someone posted their listing of replacement parts here on the forum, which seemed to indicate that they sell replacement parts directly to the end user. If they do not then you might try contacting a woodworking supply place that sells Stanley planes and asking them about getting you the parts as a special order. The reason I am focusing on Stanley is that their planes are quite common so replacement parts are more likely to be in circulation. Heck, now that I think of it, have you checked at your local hardware store to see if they sell replacement irons and chip breakers. The latter are probably less likely to be at your local hardware store than the former.

[Tom Lathrop]

Thanks for the replies.

Lee Valley sells the Hock blades but they are intended as replacements for Stanley/Record metal planes and come without chip breakers. Japan woodworker also sells the Hock blades although they do have a laminated blade. These are also intended as replacements and are without chip breakers. The Stanley replacements are from England and are also higher priced and are without chip breakers.

Dave Flemming writes that chip beakers are not difficult to make. I agree, but that would add at least another day to the class and these are not metalworkers. Since I am doing the class for free, I don't want to have to do all this work myself.

So far, the choice is to fork over the bucks for the Hock set from Garrett Wade.

My first wood plane was built 22 years ago with one of the cheaper blades and works beautifully. This blade is thicker than the Stanley/Record blades. I think the extra thick blades make more sense in a wooden plane since the area which the blade/chipper is clamped against cannot be a rigid as the frog in a metal plane. For heavier cuts, vibration might be a problem with thinner blades in a wood plane, especially in figured wood. I always use a metal Stanley for heavy work.

[ 10-26-2004, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Tom Lathrop ]

[Tom Lathrop]

Thanks for the replies.

Lee Valley sells the Hock blades but they are intended as replacements for Stanley/Record metal planes and come without chip breakers. Japan woodworker also sells the Hock blades although they do have a laminated blade. These are also intended as replacements and are without chip breakers. The Stanley replacements are from England and are also higher priced and are without chip breakers.

Dave Flemming writes that chip beakers are not difficult to make. I agree, but that would add at least another day to the class and these are not metalworkers. Since I am doing the class for free, I don't want to have to do all this work myself.

So far, the choice is to fork over the bucks for the Hock set from Garrett Wade.

My first wood plane was built 22 years ago with one of the cheaper blades and works beautifully. This blade is thicker than the Stanley/Record blades. I think the extra thick blades make more sense in a wooden plane since the area which the blade/chipper is clamped against cannot be a rigid as the frog in a metal plane. For heavier cuts, vibration might be a problem with thinner blades in a wood plane, especially in figured wood. I always use a metal Stanley for heavy work.

[ 10-26-2004, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Tom Lathrop ]

[Tom Lathrop]

Thanks for the replies.

Lee Valley sells the Hock blades but they are intended as replacements for Stanley/Record metal planes and come without chip breakers. Japan woodworker also sells the Hock blades although they do have a laminated blade. These are also intended as replacements and are without chip breakers. The Stanley replacements are from England and are also higher priced and are without chip breakers.

Dave Flemming writes that chip beakers are not difficult to make. I agree, but that would add at least another day to the class and these are not metalworkers. Since I am doing the class for free, I don't want to have to do all this work myself.

So far, the choice is to fork over the bucks for the Hock set from Garrett Wade.

My first wood plane was built 22 years ago with one of the cheaper blades and works beautifully. This blade is thicker than the Stanley/Record blades. I think the extra thick blades make more sense in a wooden plane since the area which the blade/chipper is clamped against cannot be a rigid as the frog in a metal plane. For heavier cuts, vibration might be a problem with thinner blades in a wood plane, especially in figured wood. I always use a metal Stanley for heavy work.

[ 10-26-2004, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Tom Lathrop ]

[Bruce Hooke]

FWIW - I would be surprised if you could not get the Stanley chip breakers as replacement parts from Stanley, either directly or as special order through a store. You might also be able to get their lower grade irons that way, but as you noted the extra thickness is nice...

[Bruce Hooke]

FWIW - I would be surprised if you could not get the Stanley chip breakers as replacement parts from Stanley, either directly or as special order through a store. You might also be able to get their lower grade irons that way, but as you noted the extra thickness is nice...

[Bruce Hooke]

FWIW - I would be surprised if you could not get the Stanley chip breakers as replacement parts from Stanley, either directly or as special order through a store. You might also be able to get their lower grade irons that way, but as you noted the extra thickness is nice...

[Scott Sawtelle]

WoodCraft sells Hock chip breakers, although they are designed for metal planes. They also carry replacement parts for stanley planes.

Woodcraft

[ 10-26-2004, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: Scott Sawtelle ]

[Scott Sawtelle]

WoodCraft sells Hock chip breakers, although they are designed for metal planes. They also carry replacement parts for stanley planes.

Woodcraft

[ 10-26-2004, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: Scott Sawtelle ]

[Scott Sawtelle]

WoodCraft sells Hock chip breakers, although they are designed for metal planes. They also carry replacement parts for stanley planes.

Woodcraft

[ 10-26-2004, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: Scott Sawtelle ]

[Tom Dugan]

Try Hock Tools directly:

-T

[Tom Dugan]

Try Hock Tools directly:

-T

[Tom Dugan]

Try Hock Tools directly:

-T

[Tom Lathrop]

Unfortunately none of the replacement blades made for Stanley/Record bench planes seem thick enough for use in wooden planes. These blades run from .078" for the direct replacement kind to .095" for the Hock replacements. Dito for the replacement chip breakers.

The best (only) source so far is the Hocks made especially for wooden planes which are .156" thick. This extra mass will make the wooden plane a much better tool.

[Tom Lathrop]

Unfortunately none of the replacement blades made for Stanley/Record bench planes seem thick enough for use in wooden planes. These blades run from .078" for the direct replacement kind to .095" for the Hock replacements. Dito for the replacement chip breakers.

The best (only) source so far is the Hocks made especially for wooden planes which are .156" thick. This extra mass will make the wooden plane a much better tool.

[Tom Lathrop]

Unfortunately none of the replacement blades made for Stanley/Record bench planes seem thick enough for use in wooden planes. These blades run from .078" for the direct replacement kind to .095" for the Hock replacements. Dito for the replacement chip breakers.

The best (only) source so far is the Hocks made especially for wooden planes which are .156" thick. This extra mass will make the wooden plane a much better tool.

[imported_Steven Bauer]

How about Lie-Nielsen, they have many thicknesses and all their blades are cryogenically treated A2 tool steel. And not as expensive as I would have thought.

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/blades.html

Steven

[imported_Steven Bauer]

How about Lie-Nielsen, they have many thicknesses and all their blades are cryogenically treated A2 tool steel. And not as expensive as I would have thought.

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/blades.html

Steven

[imported_Steven Bauer]

How about Lie-Nielsen, they have many thicknesses and all their blades are cryogenically treated A2 tool steel. And not as expensive as I would have thought.

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/blades.html

Steven

[robaato]

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