I don't know if this guy was serious or not...
http://www.webcdi.com/cgi-bin/byyb_bbs.pl?read=36323
I don't know if this guy was serious or not...
http://www.webcdi.com/cgi-bin/byyb_bbs.pl?read=36323
I don't know if this guy was serious or not...
http://www.webcdi.com/cgi-bin/byyb_bbs.pl?read=36323
I don't know if this guy was serious or not...
http://www.webcdi.com/cgi-bin/byyb_bbs.pl?read=36323
Former member # 1964
If anyone can figure out where he is located, I have a good chainsaw I can bring to the party.
Wayne
Former member # 1964
If anyone can figure out where he is located, I have a good chainsaw I can bring to the party.
Wayne
Former member # 1964
If anyone can figure out where he is located, I have a good chainsaw I can bring to the party.
Wayne
Carlotta
I live in Calgary too. I would be happy to come give a hand hauling/cutting/ etc. if this gentleman is serious. (I've been searching for a new 20' mast and a 10' bowsprit) Drop me an e-mail:
mohan@shaw.ca
Carlotta
I live in Calgary too. I would be happy to come give a hand hauling/cutting/ etc. if this gentleman is serious. (I've been searching for a new 20' mast and a 10' bowsprit) Drop me an e-mail:
mohan@shaw.ca
Carlotta
I live in Calgary too. I would be happy to come give a hand hauling/cutting/ etc. if this gentleman is serious. (I've been searching for a new 20' mast and a 10' bowsprit) Drop me an e-mail:
mohan@shaw.ca
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Calgary is way out of Sitka's climate. It's a strictly westcoast sub-tropic rainforest beast. It grows from northern California to South Alaska and all of BC coast.
http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/si...sitchensis.htm
[This message has been edited by Kristian (edited 12-13-2001).]
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Calgary is way out of Sitka's climate. It's a strictly westcoast sub-tropic rainforest beast. It grows from northern California to South Alaska and all of BC coast.
http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/si...sitchensis.htm
[This message has been edited by Kristian (edited 12-13-2001).]
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Calgary is way out of Sitka's climate. It's a strictly westcoast sub-tropic rainforest beast. It grows from northern California to South Alaska and all of BC coast.
http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/si...sitchensis.htm
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Carlotta
Well it only takes me 9 hours to drive to the coast from here - and I do it all the time! So it's not out of the way for me!
Carlotta
Well it only takes me 9 hours to drive to the coast from here - and I do it all the time! So it's not out of the way for me!
Carlotta
Well it only takes me 9 hours to drive to the coast from here - and I do it all the time! So it's not out of the way for me!
Former member # 1964
Gee, at over 2000 miles away, I would have to fly.
What do you suppose are my chances of getting my chainsaw past airport security these days?
And getting a few timbers through for the return trip?
Oh, well . . .
Thanks for the link, Kristian. I'll mark that one.
Wayne
[This message has been edited by Wayne Jeffers (edited 12-16-2001).]
Former member # 1964
Gee, at over 2000 miles away, I would have to fly.
What do you suppose are my chances of getting my chainsaw past airport security these days?
And getting a few timbers through for the return trip?
Oh, well . . .
Thanks for the link, Kristian. I'll mark that one.
Wayne
[This message has been edited by Wayne Jeffers (edited 12-16-2001).]
Former member # 1964
Gee, at over 2000 miles away, I would have to fly.
What do you suppose are my chances of getting my chainsaw past airport security these days?
And getting a few timbers through for the return trip?
Oh, well . . .
Thanks for the link, Kristian. I'll mark that one.
Wayne
[This message has been edited by Wayne Jeffers (edited 12-16-2001).]
Don't worry about taking the chainsaw on a plane. Does a log qualitfy as a carry-on?
Don't worry about taking the chainsaw on a plane. Does a log qualitfy as a carry-on?
Don't worry about taking the chainsaw on a plane. Does a log qualitfy as a carry-on?
Senior Member
He could very well be serious. When I was up on the Kenai Penninsula last year, they were cutting Sitka spruce as fast as they could. Apparently, there is some kind of beetle infestation that is killing whole stands of trees. Most of it is being shipped to Japan. I don't know if they will let the infested logs in the lower 48, but if they do, you will probably never see sitka as cheap as it is now.
Senior Member
He could very well be serious. When I was up on the Kenai Penninsula last year, they were cutting Sitka spruce as fast as they could. Apparently, there is some kind of beetle infestation that is killing whole stands of trees. Most of it is being shipped to Japan. I don't know if they will let the infested logs in the lower 48, but if they do, you will probably never see sitka as cheap as it is now.
Senior Member
He could very well be serious. When I was up on the Kenai Penninsula last year, they were cutting Sitka spruce as fast as they could. Apparently, there is some kind of beetle infestation that is killing whole stands of trees. Most of it is being shipped to Japan. I don't know if they will let the infested logs in the lower 48, but if they do, you will probably never see sitka as cheap as it is now.
Another site I just found:
http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/pab/publctn...itkaspruce.htm
Another site I just found:
http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/pab/publctn...itkaspruce.htm
Another site I just found:
http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/pab/publctn...itkaspruce.htm
The pine beetle doesn't live in the same area as sitka spruce. The beetle is an interior pest. It may be affecting the other spruces as well as lodgepole pine. As for our pine beetle infestation; I can't find any usefull info on the web (all the good sites have misterously stopped working) but if you have a map I can describe the area covered. There would probably be lynchings if it was released.
It is: as far north as Prince George and west through Tweedmuir Park, going south covering the entire Fraser Plateau and until a small town called Princeton. I might have seen it in the American cacades as well.
"Officially" it is limited to only Tweedsmuir Park and eastwards to Quesnel.
Personally I've seen it in Princeton, 100 Mile House, Kamloops, the Okanogan area, the Cascades and Manning Park.
And it aint pretty!
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[This message has been edited by Kristian (edited 12-18-2001).]
The pine beetle doesn't live in the same area as sitka spruce. The beetle is an interior pest. It may be affecting the other spruces as well as lodgepole pine. As for our pine beetle infestation; I can't find any usefull info on the web (all the good sites have misterously stopped working) but if you have a map I can describe the area covered. There would probably be lynchings if it was released.
It is: as far north as Prince George and west through Tweedmuir Park, going south covering the entire Fraser Plateau and until a small town called Princeton. I might have seen it in the American cacades as well.
"Officially" it is limited to only Tweedsmuir Park and eastwards to Quesnel.
Personally I've seen it in Princeton, 100 Mile House, Kamloops, the Okanogan area, the Cascades and Manning Park.
And it aint pretty!
[img]http://www.pfc.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/entomology/mpb/detection/surveys/images/flathead1_sml.jpg
[/img]
[This message has been edited by Kristian (edited 12-18-2001).]
The pine beetle doesn't live in the same area as sitka spruce. The beetle is an interior pest. It may be affecting the other spruces as well as lodgepole pine. As for our pine beetle infestation; I can't find any usefull info on the web (all the good sites have misterously stopped working) but if you have a map I can describe the area covered. There would probably be lynchings if it was released.
It is: as far north as Prince George and west through Tweedmuir Park, going south covering the entire Fraser Plateau and until a small town called Princeton. I might have seen it in the American cacades as well.
"Officially" it is limited to only Tweedsmuir Park and eastwards to Quesnel.
Personally I've seen it in Princeton, 100 Mile House, Kamloops, the Okanogan area, the Cascades and Manning Park.
And it aint pretty!
[img]http://www.pfc.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/entomology/mpb/detection/surveys/images/flathead1_sml.jpg
[/img]
[This message has been edited by Kristian (edited 12-18-2001).]
Another NO vote for monoculture?
Another NO vote for monoculture?
Another NO vote for monoculture?
Senior Member
It's the spruce beetle affecting the sitka (and all other) spruce forests. The nasty critters especially like the old growth trees. I did a search and found this web site: http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/fi...rucebeetle.htm
Senior Member
It's the spruce beetle affecting the sitka (and all other) spruce forests. The nasty critters especially like the old growth trees. I did a search and found this web site: http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/fi...rucebeetle.htm
Senior Member
It's the spruce beetle affecting the sitka (and all other) spruce forests. The nasty critters especially like the old growth trees. I did a search and found this web site: http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/fi...rucebeetle.htm
Speaking of old growth, did anyone see Nova last night on PBS about the 5 & 6 thousand year old bristle-cone pines surviving on the higher mountains out west? They even interviewed the asshole that cut down the oldest one w/ a chainsaw to see how old it was. Of course it will never get older. It was old before Moses; before Abraham; before the pyramids.... It's dificult for me to properly express my disgust with the guy.
Forests eventually deal with pests. It's us that I worry about
Speaking of old growth, did anyone see Nova last night on PBS about the 5 & 6 thousand year old bristle-cone pines surviving on the higher mountains out west? They even interviewed the asshole that cut down the oldest one w/ a chainsaw to see how old it was. Of course it will never get older. It was old before Moses; before Abraham; before the pyramids.... It's dificult for me to properly express my disgust with the guy.
Forests eventually deal with pests. It's us that I worry about
Speaking of old growth, did anyone see Nova last night on PBS about the 5 & 6 thousand year old bristle-cone pines surviving on the higher mountains out west? They even interviewed the asshole that cut down the oldest one w/ a chainsaw to see how old it was. Of course it will never get older. It was old before Moses; before Abraham; before the pyramids.... It's dificult for me to properly express my disgust with the guy.
Forests eventually deal with pests. It's us that I worry about
Senior Member
Tom, I missed the show, but have read about those trees before. Some guy has even dug some up and trimed and pruned them to make "Bonzai" trees. So, just who was the vandal? Couldn't have been a "scientist", I hope? Why not just take a core sample or something? Just Joe Sixpack with a curious nature? Aren't they protected at all? Damn shame.
Senior Member
Tom, I missed the show, but have read about those trees before. Some guy has even dug some up and trimed and pruned them to make "Bonzai" trees. So, just who was the vandal? Couldn't have been a "scientist", I hope? Why not just take a core sample or something? Just Joe Sixpack with a curious nature? Aren't they protected at all? Damn shame.
Senior Member
Tom, I missed the show, but have read about those trees before. Some guy has even dug some up and trimed and pruned them to make "Bonzai" trees. So, just who was the vandal? Couldn't have been a "scientist", I hope? Why not just take a core sample or something? Just Joe Sixpack with a curious nature? Aren't they protected at all? Damn shame.
Senior Member
I saw that; the guy didn't seem to show remorse; I don't think he even grasped what he had done. Those trees must get protected, write to your gongressmen or something.
Senior Member
I saw that; the guy didn't seem to show remorse; I don't think he even grasped what he had done. Those trees must get protected, write to your gongressmen or something.
Senior Member
I saw that; the guy didn't seem to show remorse; I don't think he even grasped what he had done. Those trees must get protected, write to your gongressmen or something.
I don't remember his name. Just as well. He had core bits but they were too short. Yes, a "scientist." Stunning degree of objectivity there. He didn't seem too very sad. The slice of the tree he cut is in a local casino for all the rubes to look at when their money runs out and they try not to contemplate their own grubby little end of days. I wonder if God feels pain? I hope he thinks it's all been worth the trouble.
I don't remember his name. Just as well. He had core bits but they were too short. Yes, a "scientist." Stunning degree of objectivity there. He didn't seem too very sad. The slice of the tree he cut is in a local casino for all the rubes to look at when their money runs out and they try not to contemplate their own grubby little end of days. I wonder if God feels pain? I hope he thinks it's all been worth the trouble.
I don't remember his name. Just as well. He had core bits but they were too short. Yes, a "scientist." Stunning degree of objectivity there. He didn't seem too very sad. The slice of the tree he cut is in a local casino for all the rubes to look at when their money runs out and they try not to contemplate their own grubby little end of days. I wonder if God feels pain? I hope he thinks it's all been worth the trouble.
Senior Member
Too SHORT? And he couldn't take the time to run to the "scientist's" version of "Home Depot" for a longer one? Guess he thought that tree might be "going somewhere"? Well... I'm sure glad we all know now just EXACTLY how old that tree was.
(... banging my head on the keyboard...)
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Too SHORT? And he couldn't take the time to run to the "scientist's" version of "Home Depot" for a longer one? Guess he thought that tree might be "going somewhere"? Well... I'm sure glad we all know now just EXACTLY how old that tree was.
(... banging my head on the keyboard...)
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