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    Default Adding an outrigger

    I have a 14' stitch and glue (a Bolger Gypsy, or similar) and am considering adding an outrigger for greater stability (teaching my 9-year-old nephew to sail). Wondering if the hull can stand the added stress of that ...and, if so, how to attach the ama so it can be folded or removed for trailering. Any ideas? Thanks for suggestions. Had trouble loading photos here so hope this link is okay. http://pineapplehillsc.com/bolger-stitch-and-glue/
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    Default Re: Adding an outrigger

    You may have to add reinforcement pads to the sides -- basically butt blocks -- to distribute forces. You can find everything you need, including some gorgeous upswept amas, here:

    _Building_Outrigger_Sailing_Canoes_



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    Default Re: Adding an outrigger

    Hey THANKS Dylan!

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    Default Re: Adding an outrigger

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedogsailor View Post
    Hey THANKS Dylan!
    You're welcome, but I'm not Dylan, I'm Gary.
    Dylan's the source of my sig quote, it's from one of his Keep Turning Left videos, "ktl-136 Lower Alde.mpg". His website, Keep Turning Left, is brilliant. He's circumnavigating Britain in a small boat.

    Hope the voyage is a long one.
    May there be many a summer morning when,
    with what pleasure, what joy,
    you come into harbors seen for the first time...

    Ithaka, by Cavafy
    (Keeley - Sherrard translation)

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    Default Re: Adding an outrigger

    Something to consider -- a single outrigger will only be really effective on one tack, and on a boat that size the crossbeams will add a lot of complexity, plus blocking movement that is critical to small boat sailing.

    You might be better off either sailing reefed, or making / borrowing a much smaller sail. I'm not a fan of the polytarp sails (although many are) but this might be the perfect application!

    We see complaints about stability all the time for designs like this, including Otter (which I've sailed) - they're great for rowing and exciting sailing, but not good in high winds. But in light winds it will make a great trainer -- as is.
    "The enemies of reason have a certain blind look."
    Doctor Jacquin to Lieutenant D'Hubert, in Ridley Scott's first major film _The Duellists_.

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    Default Re: Adding an outrigger

    Thanks Thorne (Yep ...cool hat). Good point re: effectiveness. Maybe I should gt him out there some and see how it does. We're talking small lake sailing to start and it might turn out he finds the instability more fun than I do. Also glad to hear it might be an issue with the hull versus me having been away from smaller boats for so long. The 30-footer and its inflatable dinghy have a completely different feel. I really enjoy getting back to trailerable sailboats. Will keep this Tongan War Skiff but hope to find 17 - 19' length with wider draft. Wooden, hopefully.

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    Default Re: Adding an outrigger

    Thanks Gary. Enjoyed the tip about Keep Turning Left.

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