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    This is an area where we’re just going to have to wait and see. Since I’ve never had this boat running in the water I’m just following what I think was there before. There is precious little space between the front of the motor and the cover, maybe quarter of an inch max. I will say I didn’t find it terribly obnoxious when running but that wasn’t for an extended period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    This is an area where we’re just going to have to wait and see. Since I’ve never had this boat running in the water I’m just following what I think was there before. There is precious little space between the front of the motor and the cover, maybe quarter of an inch max. I will say I didn’t find it terribly obnoxious when running but that wasn’t for an extended period.
    Well, it won't be as loud as my 3-53 in any case. Probably fine as-is, but if not then I suspect you could figure out something to place between the steps and the slats and bring any cabin noise down.
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    I like that. Did you glue them into one removable panel? Where does the engine draw air from to run?
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    Thanks Ben. The engine intake is coming from the cockpit, there is space between the deck and hull to allow air flow. No glue on the boards. I may screw a couple cleats to the back to turn it into one panel but I haven’t really decided yet.

    For the new steps I’m thinking about an open step that is curved. Something like this bit of effemora that is too far gone to do anything with but that I would bet came out of some old boat.

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    I’ll go with two steps instead of three to fit the space I have.

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    The drop is just a touch over 8 inches to each step and the run is nine. Should be fine for what I’m doing.
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    That is a neat idea. I've only seen curved steps in aluminum.
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    No glue on the boards. I may screw a couple cleats to the back to turn it into one panel but I haven’t really decided yet.
    Of course, if they can rattle, they will rattle. I'd be locking them in place every which way I could.
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    Fair point, these are pretty snug in their slot and the tongue and groove is a tight friction fit, plus the step will bear on them, so I’m probably okay. But it is something to consider.
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    I really like the way they drop in like pen-boards. So simple yet so clever (for the front of an engine access). I would really like the idea of leaving them separate so you don’t have to deal with one big clunky panel at a time that may not be the most convenient.
    Looking great Jim!

    .......just thought of something. You might consider radiusing the sides (horizontal ends?) a bit like true pen-boards in a fish hold. The reason being that if they get a bit cock-eyed sliding down they won’t jam, they can continue to slide to the bottom where they will level out. Only you can gauge if that will help or not. Just an idea.
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    ^^^ and while we are making improvements (not that any are needed), how about a couple of strips of webbing tacked to the back of the boards so they will stay together but still be able to stack out of the way when removed?
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    Marking out the curved pieces.

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    Added a bit to the front as it looked like a fairer line.

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    And a test fit after several passes through the thickness planer to even everything out.

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    Looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    Marking out the curved pieces.

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    Added a bit to the front as it looked like a fairer line.

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    And a test fit after several passes through the thickness planer to even everything out.

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    Guineas! I never thought of a grid layout like that and I did some scale drafting in school.
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    Default Re: The Harbor Master Called me Today

    those will be good looking steps. paint or stain?

    jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben2go;[URL="tel:5398210"
    5398210[/URL]]Guineas! I never thought of a grid layout like that and I did some scale drafting in school.
    It’s a technique you see a lot in some of the wood working magazines that have do it yourself projects. It’s definitely effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by MADOC1 View Post
    those will be good looking steps. paint or stain?

    jim
    In the long run it will probably be paint Jim.
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    I broke out the high tech depth gauge to cut the slots for the treads in my risers.

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    Then cleaned the slots with a chisel.

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    I would have liked to finish them off with a rabbit plane but I didn’t have one thin enough. That’s alright, it won’t make any difference once it’s all screwed together.

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    That's some good saw and chisel work.

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    Looks good Jim.
    It seems you’ve turned the corner from the big projects that don’t make things look different to the little projects that make a big difference. It’s all downhill not!

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    I’m sure there are still a few big projects that don’t have much visual impact laying around Ned. I’ll have to finish dyneling the deck at some point when it warms back up and there is probably cabin roof work to be done but it does feel like I’m starting to get close.

    Back to the step. Added a cleat to the bottom side of the top step.

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    Cut the corresponding bracket.

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    And screwed it in place.

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    Does it fit?


    It does.

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    And it is so much nicer than the herky box it replaced. The only thing the box had going for it was that it could hold a lot of extension cords. Now I’ll have to find them a new home. Seems like a fair trade.
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    ^^^ I love watching you get these projects done Jim. And am anticipating the time when I can come back here for reference when I'm doing the same job on Petrel.
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    Let’s just hope the photos are still around then Chris. The majority of the photos on this thread are still hosted on photobucket. I have a paid account so they are allowing third party hosting through December of next year. But I’ll be damned if I’m going to pay the higher rate to keep that and going back to repost all the photos looks like a pretty heavy lift at the moment. At least the recent photos are posted straight to the forum now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    Let’s just hope the photos are still around then Chris. The majority of the photos on this thread are still hosted on photobucket. I have a paid account so they are allowing third party hosting through December of next year. But I’ll be damned if I’m going to pay the higher rate to keep that and going back to repost all the photos looks like a pretty heavy lift at the moment. At least the recent photos are posted straight to the forum now.

    Right. The photo problem. Ugh! I'm really glad I never used P'bucket. One thought - how much work would it be to create an "Amazon" album somewhere like Flickr and just dump all the photos there? They still wouldn't show up in the thread of course, but at least they would be visible and it would be such a shame to lose all that documentation (speaking entirely selfishly that is).
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    That’s a possibility maybe. It would mean moving around 6,000 photos. I know, but in my defense they aren’t all Amazon photos. Lots of them are Sparrow and Fore-n-Aft model photos from eight years worth of threads.
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    I love your steps and the cleat you are using to hold the them in place!
    You are probably aware (or if you're not), and maybe some others don't know either........... there used to be regular hardware used for securing steps like this. (I don’t even know if you can buy them anymore.)




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    That’s handy! I never even thought to look for brackets like that.
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    I like your cleat Jim, but for future reference those fittings are still available.



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    And they’re cheap enough that they would be worth considering. For now I think I’ll stick with the one I have.
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    Jim, please, for your sake and ours, save each page of this thread. Look in your browser tool bar, 'save page as...' .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    I like your cleat Jim, but for future reference those fittings are still available.



    http://www.go2marine.com/product/209...der-locks.html
    Ahhhh, ..... It's nice to see some things are still available.

    Thanks Chris

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