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    Looks great and the black crackle is impossible to clean!

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    Those windows look like they were always there.

    Real nice.

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    That dash plate is very cool!

    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    The other side is done now.

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    And the inside.

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    Hopefully they actually keep the weather out. They should but Iíve been there a couple times already.

    On a completely separate subject, Iíve been trolling eBay for a few months now looking for a new dash cluster that is more fitting for the boat than modern broken plastic. I think Iíve finally settled on a Stewart Warner Ensign panel which is age appropriate for the boat.

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    Iíd like the crinkle black insert instead of the engine turned one, but I think it looks alright.
    There are few issues in life that cannot be worked out with a sharp chisel and a bit of time

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    crinkle finish is pretty easy to DIY..
    VHT brand is available in many local auto parts stores in a rattlecan.
    you basically spray it on really thick and it crazes on its own.. maybe a final cure with heat to help it set.
    maybe not as nice as the old fashioned stuff, but moderately durable.

    i did this quick panel on my old truck to cover up a really bad radio installation hole,
    it's been holding up fine for five years or so

    gauge panel done

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    Windows are impressive...Dash will be perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangusso View Post
    That dash plate is very cool!
    Yes, it is ... it's easy enough to do black crinkle - we used to do that on motorcycle barrels all the time, just preheat the part in the oven then spray, then bake at about 250* and it will crinkle up nicely.

    But it looks kind of industrial for Amazon, I think. The engine-turned is a little bit of glitz that will look good in her.
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    I ordered some new gauges for the panel today and I've got a couple dash lights coming so I can still have idiot lights for the water temp and oil pressure in addition to the gauges. Once all that gets here I'll put the new dash together and then decide on whether or not to change the insert. No sense rushing to change it just yet.
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    i think the windows turned out very nicely. great winter work in a warm basement! for the dash insert i vote for the engined turned one-classy.

    jim

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    There are options besides engine-turned or black crinkle...



    Just sayin'.

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    Sorry Chris - but you gotta straighten the water temp gauge!

    Nice looking dash though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Sorry Chris - but you gotta straighten the water temp gauge!

    Nice looking dash though.
    Yeah. I was just looking at that as well. Hadn't noticed it until now, but now I will never be able to unsee it. Another project for the list...

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    It’s funny how pictures will do that. I find myself catching details in pictures that I completely missed in real life all the time.

    That green does does set the dash off nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    Yeah. I was just looking at that as well. Hadn't noticed it until now, but now I will never be able to unsee it. Another project for the list...
    Sorry!

    I've looked at at least a dozen Fiat Spiders (including 2 I've owned). All of them have the speedo about 5 degrees off - and since it's all of 'em, I have to believe it's a factory thing. Both of mine were straightened right off
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    It’s funny how pictures will do that. I find myself catching details in pictures that I completely missed in real life all the time.

    That green does does set the dash off nicely.
    Yes, something about the photo focuses the eye differently. Harder to ignore small details.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Sorry!

    I've looked at at least a dozen Fiat Spiders (including 2 I've owned). All of them have the speedo about 5 degrees off - and since it's all of 'em, I have to believe it's a factory thing. Both of mine were straightened right off
    Fiat Spiders eh? *And* a wooden boat!? Glutton for punishment aren't you. (My first car was a Fiat 850 Spider. Great fun until one of the transmission mounts rusted through and the engine fell out in the middle of a busy Baltimore arterial).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    Yes, something about the photo focuses the eye differently. Harder to ignore small details.



    Fiat Spiders eh? *And* a wooden boat!? Glutton for punishment aren't you. (My first car was a Fiat 850 Spider. Great fun until one of the transmission mounts rusted through and the engine fell out in the middle of a busy Baltimore arterial).
    At least I don't have a Jag anymore... Oh - 3 wood boats - not that you're one to be casting stones....
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    Honestly, who doesn’t have multiple wooden boats? Two of mine are 85 years old this year.

    I wanted to throw a few gauges in my new panel just to get a better feel for it. The gauge panel is vintage and the insert is aftermarket. Turns out they don’t line up so well. I’m going to have to get out the grinder.

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    Cool man.

    Help a guy out... What is an 'engine turned'?

    Lets have a salty-balls-off... , I love guages.

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    "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    At least I don't have a Jag anymore... Oh - 3 wood boats - not that you're one to be casting stones....
    Oh - yeah, good point But at least I have cut down on Italian vehicles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Thanks, I knew but didn't know.

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    It's actually kinda fun and easy to do, in a mindlessly repetitive kinda way. Takes a drill press with a really ​deep reach, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Thanks, I knew but didn't know.
    Boy do I get that one! A backstory to my life in fact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I really like the white faces with the black needles, especially the needles with the goofy thingy on the opposite end, and you can get repos from Stewart-Warner ("Wings") ... but at $65 - $70 apiece, it's kind of a pointless luxury. Especially when there's so many more useful things to be buying

    Skookum's look great for a Serious Cruiser but I dunno ... seems like Amazon can use a little bling. She's a bit of a blingy boat

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    I've done it with a piece of wood in a drill press and grinding paste. It's fairly easy to get better than mediocre results. I could never match the above examples,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hwyl View Post
    I've done it with a piece of wood in a drill press and grinding paste. It's fairly easy to get better than mediocre results. I could never match the above examples,
    There are many looks possible depending on the amount of overlap of the individual spots. The key to a good look is to keep all rows perfectly straight and the amount of overlap exactly the same and the depth of cut exactly the same. That's all there is to getting the pictured results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Favorite View Post
    I really like the white faces with the black needles, especially the needles with the goofy thingy on the opposite end, and you can get repos from Stewart-Warner ("Wings") ... but at $65 - $70 apiece, it's kind of a pointless luxury. Especially when there's so many more useful things to be buying

    Skookum's look great for a Serious Cruiser but I dunno ... seems like Amazon can use a little bling. She's a bit of a blingy boat
    Skookum is a way blingier boat than Amazon. Did you see the copper stove insert?

    Stewart Warner made crescent gauges in the 30’s and 40’s with the tear drop pointer and crescent moon tails, which their current wings line sort of mimics. I think the older ones were more refined but good luck putting a set of those together. So I ordered four wings gauges this morning; water temp, oil pressure, voltmeter, and a fuel gauge. It is kind of a pointless luxury since the only gauge I don’t just have sitting around is a fuel gauge. You could say the same thing about the new panel I bought. The existing broken plastic modern set up is perfectly functional after all. But I think I crossed the pointless luxury bridge right about the time I agreed to drag Amazon home.

    Really I should probably be working on more important things like rebuilding the stuffing box instead. But where’s the fun in that?
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    In addition to the window project and the new dash I’ve also been hunting for a horn for the boat. The bell is fun but not exactly practical. I think I may have found I'm looking for with this one.

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    Hooked it up to a battery tonight to test it out. Works good. Nice and loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    I ordered four wings gauges this morning ...
    Oooh (where's the kowtowing in awe emoticon !? ) I'll be waiting for photos for sure !

    In the case of whiteface gages, yeah. Maybe some sort of color on the panel would be nice. Altho the photo above still looks pretty good ... the crimpon rings around the dials are a pain or a touch of brass plate might be spiffy.

    Or .... knock out a new faceplate out of brass, then engine-turn it ? Or even just leave it polished brass ?

    What are you going to do for lighting ? Regular white or red or blue or green ? Our '64 Galaxie was green, always thought that was sexy.

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    I decided on the black faced gauges. My goal is to have a nice simple clean set up. Something that fits well with its surroundings and could have always been there. Which pretty much sums up my entire philosophy on restoration and alterations.
    Last edited by jsjpd1; 03-09-2019 at 04:41 PM.
    -Jim

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    1934 27' Blanchard Cuiser ~ Amazon, Ex. Emalu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Sorry Chris - but you gotta straighten the water temp gauge!
    What drove me crazy on that panel was the ammeter showing one needle width charging even with the engine off. Crazy enough to spend a big part of an afternoon disassembling it, anyway. Lesson learned: the zero setting really isn't adjustable. So, Chris, don't add that to your list!

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    Nice horn mate. If you already have a bell, there's just the whistles to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    I decided on the black faced gauges.
    Ah, those are cool too and then you don't have to mess with the tach. In that case, I'd say the turned shiny backpanel will look super

    (Not that you need my approval or anything, seems like you've been handlng things pretty good so far )

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    Back to that insert for a moment.

    You can see that none of the holes for the gauges line up and it doesn’t sit in the pan very well.

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    Lots of filing and burr grinding later...

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    1934 27' Blanchard Cuiser ~ Amazon, Ex. Emalu
    19'6" Caledonia Yawl ~ Sparrow

    Getting into trouble one board at a time.

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    Looking good! What's going in the empty hole? Fuel?

    This is way more important than a silly stuffing box, btw.
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    Yeah, fuel gauge will go in the empty hole and then I’ll add a switch to toggle between the two tanks. Also the amp meter will be replaced by a voltmeter with another switch to toggle between batteries.

    I’m going to drill holes in the insert for the ignition switch, starter button, and a couple of lights. But I wait for them to arrive in the mail before I start hacking.

    The two lights I got are like this one with faceted glass lens.

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    Getting into trouble one board at a time.

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